Do you respect the old school poker guys?

We all know, this is very commom: the young poker generation thinks they are better than the older generation. That may be true, but how much respect do you have for the old folks? I'm talking about true respect here. If you sit at a table with chan, doyle, helmuth, negreanu and others alike what would go thru your head about their game? Do you think you are better? You think they dont know what they are doing and why? Or you have true respect and admiration for them?

i respect some old school poker guys like rekrul and nazgul.

On April 26 2012 16:16 bigredhoss wrote: i respect some old school poker guys like rekrul and nazgul.

I dont think they qualify for old school, do they?

~_~

i do. they are better than me

On April 26 2012 16:16 bigredhoss wrote: i respect some old school poker guys like rekrul and nazgul.

lolololol

I used to think a lot of them were legendary due to the TV exposure but once I started playing in the online scene and consulted with some midstakes regs I knew then I realized that live old pros are just bad.

Phil Hellmuth is really fucking good. I'm not trolling here.

stu ungar was obv really good.

obv not

I respect Johnny Chan for winning back to back tournaments and always displaying a happy/friendly personality at the table, Scotty Nguyen for having a hot trophy wife, and Patrick Antonius for making a soul-read call with a pair of 4's against Phil Laak's 3 barrel with AJ high on HSP.

I agree Phil Hellmuth is pretty damn good. He might make himself look like a smuck on tv but he can play the game. I respect a few of the other older guys but it mostly looks like they are some no moral fuckers now haha.

I respect Ivey

Think about how many hundreds of millions of dollars have been pissed away in sponsorship of people who are completely fucking useless at both poker and promotion. Its like Girah on crack. The old "live pro/old guard" image was the poker gold-rush for people who had entered a WSOP event before Moneymaker won.

There are too many names to fucking list.

Removing the people who scammed the entire community by being degenerate douchebags, the only people who deserve respect are those who marketed themselves to build the community.

Barry Greenstein
Negreanu
Chan

Congrats to Ivey, must be hard to portray some sick high-stakes gambler image when youre freerolling on a few million deposits
Congrats to Hellmuth, for promoting a fraudulent site and being best buds with Russ and having a good enough spin team to bail out of UB before the ship sank
Congrats to Nguyen for still having a mullet and being a drunken colluding retard
Congrats to Antonius for being part of FTP and mysteriously only having $100 in his account despite playing nosebleeds

no, because they become gambling trash sooner or later.

On April 26 2012 21:13 JonnyCosMo wrote: Phil Hellmuth is really fucking good. I'm not trolling here.

: o

On April 27 2012 03:42 byrnesam wrote: Congrats to Nguyen for still having a mullet and being a drunken colluding retard

ROFL

I think the OP has the term "old school" and "most marketed poker players over 30" confused. When I think of "old school" and poker I think of players like: Johnny Moss, Thomas "Amarillo Slim" Preston, David "Chip" Reese, and of course Doyle Brunson. These guys and others from that era are guys who were playing under insane conditions that none of us internet nerds would ever even consider. Indeed gambling back then was not simply with the money you have on the tables but all the money you have on your person as well your general health. No pokertraker, no training sites, no poker forums, no poker books, and no way of knowing if they were winning players or not except for their own interpretation of their results / variance. I mean it's gotta be pretty hard to keep playing when you're on a 20k hand downswing (which was 2-3 months back then) and at risk of being robbed, beaten, or killed on a day to day basis.

I don't think these guys are better than their counterparts of today (it's very very rare that the old school is better in any discipline than the new school) but they definitely have my respect and it'd be an honor to play w/ any of them.

i respect them for figuring out a lot of stuff by themselves because back in the day the road from fish to good player was like 99.9999% all their own hard work and intelligence where nowadays a lot more knowledge is out there. huge respect for doyle brunson, stu unger,chip reese, ivey(OBVIOUSLY) and barry G. not many others come to mind tho.