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nootropics   Australia. Apr 07 2012 19:28. Posts 59

Just looking for an overall thought process on the river here. No history with villain (I play casually on lots of different sites), he is 18/15/7.4 over 134 hands so probably a reg and I haven't seen him 3b UTG or me during the session so I flat AKo IP here.

Submitted by : nootropics

***** Hand History for Game 78496998977 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, April 07, 05:13:44 ET 2012
Table Nocturna III Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Hero $106.91 USD
Seat 2: CitsVariants $100.00 USD
Seat 3: HuntedHippo $94.16 USD
Seat 4: ElitistJerk $192.69 USD
Seat 5: op^poker91 $111.95 USD
Seat 6: histackz1994 $101.75 USD
op^poker91 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
histackz1994 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [KdAs ]
Hero raises [$3.00 USD]
CitsVariants folds
HuntedHippo folds
ElitistJerk folds
op^poker91 raises [$9.50 USD]
histackz1994 folds
Hero calls [$7.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $20.50)

   5d2cJd
op^poker91 bets [$13.00 USD]
Hero calls [$13.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $46.50)

   5d2cJdAc
op^poker91 bets [$29.00 USD]
Hero calls [$29.00 USD]

River (Pot : $104.50)

   5d2cJdAc2d
op^poker91 bets [$59.95 USD]



I don't play often so am not familiar with how 100nl regs think in spots like this..I assume b/c he is OOP and I am running fairly wideish stats UTG that he will be bluffing some amount but only 3b/c QQ+/AK for value here. I call flop because I assume he will bluff turns we improve on and often c/f bricks since our range should be fairly strong here. I expect him to barrel the A turn with all of his bluffs expecting me to fold any middling pairs and Jx suited that isn't clubs, as well as barreling his equity (diamonds/clubs). How likely is he to follow through on the river with worse given the price he is laying me to call?

I am fairly noobish and tend to err on the side of overthinking spots while trying to improve so I'm interested in the quality of my thought process on all streets.


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 07 2012 19:29. Posts 19800

who cares about reads

this is a 100% SNAP fist pump call

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nootropics   Australia. Apr 07 2012 19:32. Posts 59

cheers. I will try and post some more hands over coming weeks, I've been a long-time lurker and really appreciate the quality of the input from some of you guys, enjoyed longple's videos and thought I should probably contribute a little since it seems kind of quiet in here.


TimDawg    United States. Apr 08 2012 17:18. Posts 9301

I'm not sure why you floated flop but now that you got there on turn you should for sure call river as Tom said

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phexac   United States. Apr 09 2012 11:30. Posts 2554


  On April 08 2012 17:18 TimDawg wrote:
I'm not sure why you floated flop but now that you got there on turn you should for sure call river as Tom said

Nitting it up since 2006 

TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 09 2012 12:00. Posts 19800


  On April 08 2012 17:18 TimDawg wrote:
I'm not sure why you floated flop but now that you got there on turn you should for sure call river as Tom said



I think when you choose to flat AK pre - floating these types of flop is completley standarrd ;-0

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TimDawg    United States. Apr 10 2012 10:42. Posts 9301


  On April 09 2012 12:00 TalentedTom wrote:
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I think when you choose to flat AK pre - floating these types of flop is completley standarrd ;-0

i guess i just don't flat AK pre too often, hence i don't get into these spots as often but i still would hope you would just fold flop at least some % of the time

villain is pretty nitty, i guess pre is good but i'd still just fold flop vs these types of players a lot

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinballLast edit: 10/04/2012 10:43

DooMeR   United States. Apr 12 2012 13:58. Posts 8219

agreed with tom on everything

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the cleaner   Venezuela. Apr 12 2012 15:17. Posts 2970

I like the flat preflop utg vs 3bet from the blinds. i also think that calling flop/turn and river is optimal, since we will induce bluffs. obv. snap call river.

There are no facts, only interpretations. 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 12 2012 23:33. Posts 2924

agree with floating being good.

when i call with AK here it's because i beat at least half of their range, but only equal their value range (they are 3betting polarised from the sb) most players are cbetting a ton of their 3bet range here so AK high is often good on the flop. Plus we have good equity here.

also i'd rather flat flop with AK than 99-TT because both hands are still beaten a good amount of their 3bet value range. But AK has alot more potential on later streets, they could easily 3barrel off on a K turn. So AK is the strongest hand we could call with on this flop imo, except AJs, JJ. with our float we can easily rep 99-AA on later streets as well.

i drink ur milkshakeLast edit: 12/04/2012 23:36

soberstone   United States. Apr 18 2012 22:42. Posts 897


  On April 12 2012 23:33 Stroggoz wrote:
agree with floating being good.

when i call with AK here it's because i beat at least half of their range, but only equal their value range (they are 3betting polarised from the sb) most players are cbetting a ton of their 3bet range here so AK high is often good on the flop. Plus we have good equity here.

also i'd rather flat flop with AK than 99-TT because both hands are still beaten a good amount of their 3bet value range. But AK has alot more potential on later streets, they could easily 3barrel off on a K turn. So AK is the strongest hand we could call with on this flop imo, except AJs, JJ. with our float we can easily rep 99-AA on later streets as well.



i feel like your advice might be good but it's so convoluted. are you saying you would raise hands like 99-TT on the flop?


DooMeR   United States. Apr 18 2012 23:51. Posts 8219

no hes expressing that AK >99-TT in the overall scheme of things as far as playability and making more moneys. if he had to choose which hand he'd have in the situation he would rather have those.

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