wat would you rather have?

1) you are staked 50k to play legendary fish 'scout' http://www.pokertableratings.com/party-player-search/scout315 You get to play him for 4 tables of 5/10 hu for 4 hours. You get to keep the profits you make and give the rest back. you get to review his hh's before playing because ptr gave them to you.

2) 100 hours of personal coaching from up to 20 different poker players in the world. Also, these poker players have the ability to express logic as clearly as phil galfond. So if you got coaching from jungleman his autism magically disappears, and if you got coaching from isildur he can speak perfect english



Poll: you wanna play scout or get coacing from the best
(Vote): scout
(Vote): coaching

coaching

Coaching is way overrated. Definitely scout.

Poll: Which would you not read less?
(Vote): Thread started by Tutz
(Vote): Thread started by Stroggoz

ROFL

right now i'd pick scout, but if i was playing professionally and planned to do so for the foreseeable future i'd snap-take the coaching.

100 hours seems like a lot though, i think there's a decent chance the first 15 hours would be more valuable than the last 85.

What's scout's level ? I guess it's quite difficult to assess, but would he beat low stakes ?
Keep it mind that he once won a MTT.

Coaching. Not even slightly close.

expectation of that scout prop is maybe around 10k and the coaching is clearly worth much much much more. I'd take the coaching over 20 hours with scout nevermind 4

edit: tho that's for me personally obv

Pretty easy answer considering Im down vs scout lifetime

Can anyone tell us who "scout" is for those of who don't know?

On April 02 2012 08:49 TopGear wrote: Can anyone tell us who "scout" is for those of who don't know?

updated op with a ptr link.

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on same page as ket. this is personalized coaching. you basically redeem 2-4 hours a week over the course of 6-12 months and you improve a shitload. you can also use this coaching to learn new games. teach a man to fish etc

4 hours vs scout or 100 hours of coaching? hmmmm doesn't seem fair lol. maybe if it was playing scout for 4 hours a day for a few weeks or something this would be closer.

I think its closer than people realize. For example if you assume the scout prop is worth 10k, and 100 hours of coaching is worth more, its like saying you would pay at least $100 an hour for elite coaching. So w/ 20 hours against scout, you're saying you would pay $500 an hour for coaching, and at "4 hours a day for a few weeks" you would be paying $1500 an hour for coaching.

A lot depends on bankroll, skill level, and ambitions as a poker player, but I feel like $500 an hour really has to be the upper limit. I would be surprised if there aren't a few players in the top 20 who offer that already.

Easy coaching and it's not even close. Gimme 4 hours vs scout every day for a year at 25/50 and it becomes close. Taking into consideration that he will probably get better while playing and develop reads on you as well, I don't think he is exactly a retarded guy, in fact most likely smart.

On April 02 2012 12:57 NMcNasty wrote: I think its closer than people realize. For example if you assume the scout prop is worth 10k, and 100 hours of coaching is worth more, its like saying you would pay at least $100 an hour for elite coaching. So w/ 20 hours against scout, you're saying you would pay $500 an hour for coaching, and at "4 hours a day for a few weeks" you would be paying $1500 an hour for coaching. A lot depends on bankroll, skill level, and ambitions as a poker player, but I feel like $500 an hour really has to be the upper limit. I would be surprised if there aren't a few players in the top 20 who offer that already.

Depends, OP said they would all teach at least at good as galfond, I wouldn't take up most winning players as coaches just because most have no idea how to teach, but if they can all teach their thoughts well 100 hours coaching with say Phil Ivey just becomes invaluable, not even taking into account that you would probably become really really good, earn his respect and might just get staked for life anyway. That vs 4 hours vs scout at 5/10? lol

And most people that are crushing simply don't coach strangers.

Dunno if you can coach soulreading. I think a lot of poker-styles are at the top are due to natural selection as much as the players ability to implement them via a logical thought process.

stakes are too low, for 50k, should be playing him HU at 25 50
if that was the case i'd take the scout match

otherwise the coaching is more +EV