wat would you rather have?

On April 05 2012 01:36 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 09:08 RaSZi wrote: Jesus christ, I cringe any time someone make a serious reply in this thread. It's not close, it's not a dilemma. You take coaching. And if you care more about 4 hours of hu with a fish on stakes as low as 5-10, I don't think you will get very far in poker. So you think every single person in the world would benefit more from coaching in poker than what is essentially free money? But hey, at least I know from reading your first line that you're not serious in writing something so silly or else you'd be making yourself cringe; which would make no sense quite frankly.

agree with raszi
if you are good enough to think that you'll walk over scout hu then the 100 hours has to be way more valuable =

On April 05 2012 01:36 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 09:08 RaSZi wrote: Jesus christ, I cringe any time someone make a serious reply in this thread. It's not close, it's not a dilemma. You take coaching. And if you care more about 4 hours of hu with a fish on stakes as low as 5-10, I don't think you will get very far in poker. So you think every single person in the world would benefit more from coaching in poker than what is essentially free money? But hey, at least I know from reading your first line that you're not serious in writing something so silly or else you'd be making yourself cringe; which would make no sense quite frankly.

It's free money?

huh...


Everyone not taking coaching is either an idiot or not thinking this through...unless one is already accomplished at poker and never plans on playing it again...ever

On April 05 2012 03:29 Hjorturkall wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 01:36 taco wrote:   On April 04 2012 09:08 RaSZi wrote: Jesus christ, I cringe any time someone make a serious reply in this thread. It's not close, it's not a dilemma. You take coaching. And if you care more about 4 hours of hu with a fish on stakes as low as 5-10, I don't think you will get very far in poker. So you think every single person in the world would benefit more from coaching in poker than what is essentially free money? But hey, at least I know from reading your first line that you're not serious in writing something so silly or else you'd be making yourself cringe; which would make no sense quite frankly. It's free money? huh... Everyone not taking coaching is either an idiot or not thinking this through...unless one is already accomplished at poker and never plans on playing it again...ever

What if you already played poker and realized you are not that good and since then you have a good carreer and just play a bit of poker aside but just for fun ?
Why would you take those 100 hours from which you would obvisouly benefit but not that much ?

I chose playing scout, because I never played those stakes, I don't want to get "very far" at this game. I don't know his level, but even if he is a bit better than I am, I still have a good chance. For the thrill of those stakes.

Obvisouly for the majority of lpers, this is a "no brainer", especially if you play midstakes+ but not for everyone.

On April 03 2012 23:19 Stim_Abuser wrote: 4 hours with tutz girlfriend.

in my time people got demodded and banned for insulting sexually others girlfriends

i've never played with scout, but based on the replies from those who have it seems like some (including myself) were confused about the actual level of his play.

for example, i remember watching him play one time when i was thinking about taking a (very under-rolled) shot at a 5/10 full ring table where he open-limped Q9o, someone iso-raised, the button 3-bet the iso, scout flatted the 3-bet oop and open-shoved some flop where he hit a pair (i forget the exact flop, maybe J95r or something). button called with KK. i remember other hands that were similarly bad but that one stuck out for some reason. i don't remember how long ago it was, but at least 1year+.

obviously based on the comments from people who've played him, scout has improved a lot from those days. or maybe i just happened to watch him on an unusually fishy day, or he was just feeling bored because it was 5/10 or whatever.

for someone like me, i mean who knows what i'll feel like in the future, but i'd be surprised if i play more than 20k hands of poker from now til the end of 2012 and i don't really expect to get back into it. if scout is actually capable of beating, or even being only a slight loser at 100nl these days i would still take the coaching just because it would be cool to learn from the best of the best, even though it's questionable whether the EV of what i learn would get a chance to materialize. but if he was routinely making plays such as in the hand i mentioned above, i think just it becomes a no-brainer money-grab sort of spot for someone in my position.

i guess the only caveat to that is that if i got 100 hours of coaching from one of those guys i'd probably have to reconsider the amount of poker i planned to play :o

On April 05 2012 04:00 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On April 03 2012 23:19 Stim_Abuser wrote: 4 hours with tutz girlfriend. in my time people got demodded and banned for insulting sexually others girlfriends

That's because your pimp hand is WEAK.

On April 04 2012 09:08 RaSZi wrote: Jesus christ, I cringe any time someone make a serious reply in this thread. It's more stupid than the other one. It's not close, it's not a dilemma. You take coaching. And if you care more about 4 hours of hu with a fish on stakes as low as 5-10, I don't think you will get very far in poker.

unless your a micro /recreational player with $1000 or less bankroll who may never realize the EV of the coaching

On April 05 2012 12:47 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On April 04 2012 09:08 RaSZi wrote: Jesus christ, I cringe any time someone make a serious reply in this thread. It's more stupid than the other one. It's not close, it's not a dilemma. You take coaching. And if you care more about 4 hours of hu with a fish on stakes as low as 5-10, I don't think you will get very far in poker. unless your a micro /recreational player with $1000 or less bankroll who may never realize the EV of the coaching

yes, but i doubt a micro player would have a huge edge over scout in hu, cause if he did, he could just bumhunt heads up nlhe and get out of micros.

You guys are trolling wrong. If you're trying to look badass u go:

"LOL, a free 50-80k in 4 hours time or waste 100 hours of my life w/ the so-called top 20? How is this even a question?"

could always take the 80k and buy 100000 hours of coaching

or you could run like shit and lose to scout lol

On April 02 2012 12:57 NMcNasty wrote: I think its closer than people realize. For example if you assume the scout prop is worth 10k, and 100 hours of coaching is worth more, its like saying you would pay at least $100 an hour for elite coaching. So w/ 20 hours against scout, you're saying you would pay $500 an hour for coaching, and at "4 hours a day for a few weeks" you would be paying $1500 an hour for coaching. A lot depends on bankroll, skill level, and ambitions as a poker player, but I feel like $500 an hour really has to be the upper limit. I would be surprised if there aren't a few players in the top 20 who offer that already.

are you assuming you would never play poker again after the coaching?

On April 06 2012 09:06 tirceol wrote: Show nested quote + On April 02 2012 12:57 NMcNasty wrote: I think its closer than people realize. For example if you assume the scout prop is worth 10k, and 100 hours of coaching is worth more, its like saying you would pay at least $100 an hour for elite coaching. So w/ 20 hours against scout, you're saying you would pay $500 an hour for coaching, and at "4 hours a day for a few weeks" you would be paying $1500 an hour for coaching. A lot depends on bankroll, skill level, and ambitions as a poker player, but I feel like $500 an hour really has to be the upper limit. I would be surprised if there aren't a few players in the top 20 who offer that already. are you assuming you would never play poker again after the coaching?

Yes, that's what I was assuming. You got me.

On April 06 2012 12:01 NMcNasty wrote: Show nested quote + On April 06 2012 09:06 tirceol wrote:   On April 02 2012 12:57 NMcNasty wrote: I think its closer than people realize. For example if you assume the scout prop is worth 10k, and 100 hours of coaching is worth more, its like saying you would pay at least $100 an hour for elite coaching. So w/ 20 hours against scout, you're saying you would pay $500 an hour for coaching, and at "4 hours a day for a few weeks" you would be paying $1500 an hour for coaching. A lot depends on bankroll, skill level, and ambitions as a poker player, but I feel like $500 an hour really has to be the upper limit. I would be surprised if there aren't a few players in the top 20 who offer that already. are you assuming you would never play poker again after the coaching? Yes, that's what I was assuming. You got me.

just saying... i appreciate the mathematical approach you're taking but this is like an initial value problem. where the scout prop falls to 0 (gain, at least) after those 4 hours or whatever it was. meanwhile i'm pretty sure most people here could benefit greatly from coaching by top players and make a shit ton of money for the rest of their life.

I d stream my coaching sessions for 100$/person and get free coaching and free moneys = everybody profits

On April 05 2012 09:35 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 05 2012 04:00 Baalim wrote:   On April 03 2012 23:19 Stim_Abuser wrote: 4 hours with tutz girlfriend. in my time people got demodded and banned for insulting sexually others girlfriends That's because your pimp hand is WEAK.

My GF disses were legendary, one of the few times in my life where ive felt guilty about insulting somebody

On April 04 2012 14:14 n0rthf4ce wrote: coaching. only from phil ivey himself

On April 04 2012 14:14 n0rthf4ce wrote: coaching. only from phil ivey himself

And you lol

Stupid iPhone

obv the coaching.