200nl river ch/r co vs sb

villain is 20/16/3.2. his 3bet from the blinds is 8% over huge sample. doesn't ch/raise a lot, and i haven't seen him make any crazy bluffs. I think he would 3bet QQ and TT preflop most of the time. i also think, that from the image he has of me, he would call me down with QJ and KQ on this board.

Submitted by : the cleaner

PokerStars Hand #77056999088: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2012/03/12 7:18:35 ET
Table Carnegia IV 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: eraser2308 ($298.40 in chips)
Seat 2: MaxVariance ($60.20 in chips)
Seat 4: ZESTnik ($66 in chips)
Seat 5: the clêaner ($472.71 in chips)
Seat 6: almasya ($220 in chips)
eraser2308: posts small blind $1
MaxVariance: posts big blind $2
bannar: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to the clêaner
ZESTnik: folds
the clêaner: raises $4 to $6
almasya: folds
eraser2308: calls $5
MaxVariance: folds

Flop (Pot : $14.00)

   
eraser2308: checks
the clêaner: bets $9.62
eraser2308: calls $9.62

Turn (Pot : $33.24)

   
eraser2308: checks
the clêaner: bets $22.85
eraser2308: calls $22.85

River (Pot : $78.94)

   
eraser2308: checks
the clêaner: bets $54.82
eraser2308: raises $89.18 to $144

seems like a call

if you lose he probably shows you 77 or 89 but its just rare

seems like a fold

if you win he probably doesn't have 77 or 89 but it's just rare

was just thinking also all the hands you posted recently are all super close feel spots with no real answer

i think this is an extremely easy fold ;o

since you're 150 bb deep i think he's likely to play 1010 like this pre quite often, and possibly QQ too. if he's some standard reg, i don't think most people are going to be bluffing here almost ever. i can see some weirdly played 2 pair combos (76, Q10) as well as sets (1010, QQ, 77) as somewhat possible in his shoes, but imo, most regs i've played against aren't going to be c/r bluffing here with anything.

thanks for replies. i folded pretty quickly. just wanted to make sure that this is a fairly standard fold vs most opponents.

sorry didnt realize this was 150bb deep...its much more a fold

what do you guys think at 100bb?

On March 13 2012 10:12 Minsk wrote: sorry didnt realize this was 150bb deep...its much more a fold what do you guys think at 100bb?

shove the river

this is prob. most standard fold of all time

Do you fold a set of 6's as well then?

Say we raise pre, c-bet, and hit our set on turn. aside from random 2 pairs, we're beat by most of what beats AQ as well right?

I fold without anything to indicate that river check-raise is somehow a more common than average for the villain or that he likes to make big bluffs repping specific monsters. By default this is a monster that trapped you into betting 3 streets.

on your PTR it says that you are an aggrotard, so if I see you as an aggrotard, chances are i'm trapping you here.

anyway, it's an easy fold

So.. What about the set of 6's?? Are we folding?

On March 12 2012 17:01 YoMeR wrote: i think this is an extremely easy fold ;o

hmm

I would call here and would be fairly happy about it, cant think of a hand (other then maybe 89s) that plays like this - that being said very few regs ever flat SC's from the SB. I think he has 99-88, KJ, AJ, Tx a lot here - can only think of a few value hands, some of which im not even sure he can have because of the action on every street (like tens for example, pre/post I dont think most regs play like this)