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Nl600 FR can i ever find a fold here ? weird spot

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Darki   Peru. Feb 24 2012 03:56. Posts 683

villian is a winning reg didnt know much about him before this hand
the other guy is a fish

can we find a fold here on the river ? i mean the only hand i can put him on is TsQs and maybe A4


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***** Hand History for Game 11468100173 ***** Party
$600.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, February 24, 04:46:14 ET 2012
Table Table 197684 No DP Real Money
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 2: LeDingleBeri $642.00 USD
Seat 4: LuckSackBoy $600.00 USD
Seat 7: M888M88888M $739.05 USD
Seat 8: Moser12 $641.55 USD
Seat 9: Peruhope $761.38 USD
Seat 1: ProfessorLu $600.00 USD
Seat 6: nohtsa $600.00 USD
Seat 3: slizzinghot $648.00 USD
Seat 5: turus_795 $407.05 USD
LuckSackBoy posts small blind [$3.00 USD].
turus_795 posts big blind [$6.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Peruhope [7sAs ]
nohtsa folds
Moser12 folds
Peruhope raises [$15.00 USD]
LeDingleBeri folds
slizzinghot folds
LuckSackBoy calls [$12.00 USD]
turus_795 calls [$9.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $45.00)

   Ks4sAd
LuckSackBoy checks
turus_795 bets [$84.00 USD]
Peruhope calls [$84.00 USD]
LuckSackBoy calls [$84.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $297.00)

   Ks4sAdJd
LuckSackBoy checks
turus_795 checks
Peruhope checks

River (Pot : $297.00)

   Ks4sAdJd7d
LuckSackBoy bets [$235.00 USD]
turus_795 folds
Peruhope calls [$235.00 USD]

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heroSOT   Malta. Feb 24 2012 04:27. Posts 57

really? Isn't that obvious and easy fold? He is acting after almost 2x pot bet on the flop and call, and he cold calls. River is pretty easy fold with bluffcatcher.

Only problem is that only hand that makes sense for him is pocket 4s, but because it is what he had, fold...


Oly   United Kingdom. Feb 24 2012 08:44. Posts 3514

He's betting big into a fish that just 2x potted the flop - whatever he has, you're completely dead.

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YoMeR   United States. Feb 24 2012 15:01. Posts 11484

this is an extremely easy fold ;o

of course there's a non-zero % that villain is bluffing here but it's pretty damn low... even if he's bluffing like ~10% of the time here which is insanely high for a spot like this it's still a snap fold...and no way in hell he's doing this with worse ever...although that's also a non-zero % chance which is negligible ;(

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Feb 25 2012 06:54. Posts 7916

certainly not an easy fold....wtf are u guys serious?

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Feb 25 2012 06:54. Posts 7916

if he has any hand that beats us how is he not raising flop here

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PoorUser    United States. Feb 25 2012 07:21. Posts 7000

dunno but i dont think any reg tries to bluff a fish after a 2x pot bet on flop oop of fish and reg on river.
the only thing we can really beat is some mid suited connector, which would be a pretty poor call on flop, and a lot of regs wont defend from the sb anyways

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 08:49. Posts 8773

I dont think its an easy fold simply because we are beat by so few combos assuming the reg doesnt flat AA,KK,AK in the SB with a fish in the BB and not sure if he has any AJ there, so we are losing to like 44 and QsTs and with the odds we are getting we need to beat like a combo and a half of hands. With that said Im not sure I can come up with many of those unless we can put him on AQ that is going for value after the turn went CC but its not a vbet every player would make and some would 3b it preflop anyway. Probably a fold but I wouldnt sweat a call at all.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Feb 25 2012 08:53. Posts 8773

Actually since the fish is with a shorter stack he might flat AA,KK,AK more often there so maybe that makes it a more decisive fold, dunno.


MARSHALL28   United States. May 03 2012 09:37. Posts 1381


  On February 25 2012 06:54 n0rthf4ce wrote:
if he has any hand that beats us how is he not raising flop here



I see no reason to raise the flop in the other reg's shoes with any nutted hand.

The donk is super polarized with this sizing, why would you want to isolate his value hands by raising, especially after hero flats?

Shoving is probably better than calling because of how unlikely it is villain ever has diamonds, but that's only if the dude can't hand read at all because it's just as hard for us to have a flush. Seems like a pretty clear fold to me on the river.


 




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