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NL1K Second Set on Bad River

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the_body   . Feb 19 2012 10:33. Posts 29

Submitted by : the_body

***** Hand History for Game 11445056168 ***** Party
$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, February 18, 10:25:44 ET 2012
Table Table 202293 No DP Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 6: Arti90 $351.50 USD
Seat 1: Hero $1025.00 USD
Seat 2: Shaggy_1515 $436.00 USD
Seat 5: TheTriplets3 $1000.00 USD
Seat 4: flipp3r $1120.00 USD
Seat 3: slug_shuffle $1162.50 USD
Hero posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
slug_shuffle posts big blind [$10.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [TcTh ]
flipp3r folds
TheTriplets3 raises [$30.00 USD]
Arti90 folds
Hero calls [$25.00 USD]
slug_shuffle folds

Flop (Pot : $70.00)

   5h6hTs
Hero checks
TheTriplets3 bets [$40.00 USD]
Hero calls [$40.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $150.00)

   5h6hTsQs
Hero checks
TheTriplets3 bets [$100.00 USD]
Hero raises [$310.00 USD]
TheTriplets3 calls [$210.00 USD]

River (Pot : $770.00)

   5h6hTsQs9d
Hero bets ?????




Villian is 25/21/3.4 aggro reg, he opens pretty wide on the co (35%) and barrels a lot.
Since there is a big fish behind me who squeezes a lot i call here.

I just call flop cause a c/r would look to strong here since i cant really have any straight or low flushdraws, cause of the lagtard fish behind me, pretty sure villian knows that.

And also im sure he is gonna barrel the turn alsmost always here.

Turn i decide to c/r cause the board is getting really drawheavy, he thinks for a long time and calls.

Whats my play on the River ? 78 and KJ got there, pretty sure he ships worse sets on the turn. Cant really think of too many worse hands that call a shove here....

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NMcNasty    United States. Feb 19 2012 13:13. Posts 2041

Don't fold anywhere. Shoving is fine and probably best, you should still get plenty of one pair call downs even if he mostly folds. C/C is an interesting option cuz it looks like you're giving up on a semibluff and there's plenty of busted draws he could have.


the_body   . Feb 19 2012 13:27. Posts 29


  On February 19 2012 12:13 NMcNasty wrote:
Don't fold anywhere. Shoving is fine and probably best, you should still get plenty of one pair call downs even if he mostly folds. C/C is an interesting option cuz it looks like you're giving up on a semibluff and there's plenty of busted draws he could have.



Obv not thinking about folding, which one pair hands would you call here if you are villian ? Having a hard time coming up with hands to call if im villian here


JohnnyBologna   United States. Feb 20 2012 04:44. Posts 1401

Jamony! Jam. Pairs that put you on a flushed draw and missed will hero call.

Just do whats right 

thewh00sel    United States. Feb 20 2012 06:38. Posts 2735

I think you played it sneaky enough to where he will put you on one of the missed draws enough and look you up. Also you will get more free cards in the future if he calls and sees your hand, even if it beats you. Jam has to be the best play.

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Feb 20 2012 09:43. Posts 8918

What I dont understand is if you couldnt rep bluffs on the flop now on the turn you suddenly can ?


NMcNasty    United States. Feb 20 2012 15:12. Posts 2041


  On February 19 2012 12:27 the_body wrote:
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Obv not thinking about folding, which one pair hands would you call here if you are villian ? Having a hard time coming up with hands to call if im villian here


If I'm villain I'm soulreading you and folding everything that tens beat but in all seriousness just betting top pair and calling down with it is perfectly common and isn't even necessarily bad.


the_body   . Feb 20 2012 16:06. Posts 29


  On February 20 2012 08:43 EvilSky wrote:
What I dont understand is if you couldnt rep bluffs on the flop now on the turn you suddenly can ?



well not really but i think in this spot nobody can really rep much bluffs on the turn, are you saying you would still go c/c turn and c/r river if the river doesnt complete too much draws ?


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Feb 20 2012 16:34. Posts 8918

I honestly dont agree with your flop call but to stay consistent with your own thought process I much prefer another flat yes.


MARSHALL28   United States. May 03 2012 11:02. Posts 1904

I don't see why you can't have like AJss or KQ/KJhh that just flat pre to induce the fish to squeeze and now you decide to semi bluff flop by c/r, or by taking this line of c/c then c/r (which I'd definitely take often with my semi bluffs and value hands). River just becomes a shove after raising turn no matter what card falls (though this one specific particular card an offsuit 9 in this spot may be the exception to this rule since it completes almost everything making this spot exceedingly strange). In general, it doesn't make much sense to use this c/c then c/r strategy if you aren't shipping just about every river.

Also agree w/ evilsky that your thought process doesn't appear congruent.


 



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