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GoTuNk   Chile. Feb 15 2012 19:08. Posts 2651


  On February 15 2012 18:39 Night2o1 wrote:
@palak
I understand "accepting" that they have access to this info and use it. That's a fact, but why accept it? We are still in a relatively new age of companies having this type of information and them having this type of access to person information doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Do you have any reservations?



I feel safer with google owning my private information than any government. Not even considering i'm not an american/european citizen.


palak   United States. Feb 15 2012 19:39. Posts 4601


  On February 15 2012 18:39 Night2o1 wrote:
@palak
I understand "accepting" that they have access to this info and use it. That's a fact, but why accept it? We are still in a relatively new age of companies having this type of information and them having this type of access to person information doesn't necessarily have to be the case. Do you have any reservations?


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superfashion   United States. Feb 15 2012 19:48. Posts 918

google already owns the planet duno what anyone thinks they can do to stop it

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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 15 2012 19:52. Posts 1932

I'm never gonna see flying cars and space colonization in my lifetime if Google has to subsidize all the inferior companies on its way to world domination =[


kingpowa   France. Feb 16 2012 02:11. Posts 1525

Palak I do agree with what you said.
As said, I feel bothered by all these data collected, and I try to diversify my use of the internet, using more open source software. I have no problem with my emails logged, though I have some with them being skimmed.

Thing is if you are being quite lazy on the service you use, it leads you to have quite a lot of "abuse of dominant position". It's pretty clear that the dominant position doesn't bring something good for "consumers". For example, now apple can prevent you from using other technologies (flash), or collect data via apps, now they are shitty adds at the beginning of some vids on youtube (google), same with facebook evolving..

sorry for shitty english. 

palak   United States. Feb 16 2012 06:24. Posts 4601

I also try to use as much open software as possible, but end up typically just using non open source since I just pirate all my software anyway. I don't think that those examples listed really qualify as abuse. I mean the app collection sure, but everyone does that not just apple. Fb worries me w/ where it may go now that it's becoming publicly traded so ad space may shoot through the roof.
Ads on youtube are there because pre ads google was losing around $1.65 million dollars a day keeping youtube running http://www.internetevolution.com/auth...section_id=715&doc_id=175123&

Apple not using flash was actually due to it wanting open standard on the internet and Steve thinking flash would never come out w/ an actual good phone software (which they didn't). His letter.
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http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

My bigger personal problems with Apple (and reason I may move to the S3 from iphone 4) are its blatant disregard for chinese workers while making record profits and its incredbile abuse of patant law.

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kingpowa   France. Feb 16 2012 07:24. Posts 1525

I know the reasons why youtube put adds or iphone doesn't use flash. I just underline the fact that people start using those great free services, and become used to it. At this time, company makes evolution to those services, and as people are now quite used to it, they don't switch to others similar services. I'm just stating the fact, not even saying that's wrong.

sorry for shitty english. 

blackjacki2   United States. Feb 16 2012 08:52. Posts 1932


  On February 15 2012 19:08 GoTuNk wrote:
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I feel safer with google owning my private information than any government. Not even considering i'm not an american/european citizen.


the problem with google having the information is that it may end up in the hands of the government. Not sure what their track record is in defending people's information against government subpoenas. I know it's been an issue for Twitter and some of the wikileaks people.


Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 16 2012 09:15. Posts 7041

Pretty sure the Google lawyer started laughing and paid him the 500k in cash from of his wallet.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 16 2012 09:19. Posts 7041

Also lol at suing somebody for offering an awesome free service... on the pretense that they might use that for a monopoly in the future. The fuck is this, minority report? We get to charge people for stuff they might do now?




Hopefully google greases a couple politicians palms and the U.S. invades that stupid country France.

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palak   United States. Feb 16 2012 09:27. Posts 4601


  On February 16 2012 07:24 kingpowa wrote:
I know the reasons why youtube put adds or iphone doesn't use flash. I just underline the fact that people start using those great free services, and become used to it. At this time, company makes evolution to those services, and as people are now quite used to it, they don't switch to others similar services. I'm just stating the fact, not even saying that's wrong.



Maybe im just bias due to having tech savy friends but ive never had an instance where ppl were so used to one non-unique free service that when the service starting charging they didnt just all bail to another free place. Im talking about actually charging money too like hulu+ does. Also seeing things like netflix stock goin from $300 a share down to $120 a share after they announced price hikes. I see the theory concern but I dont see it in practice. Kinda why this lawsuit is annoying...i would prefer a ruling of "if google becomes a monopoly and charges money then we r saying now they will be charged x" rather then fining them for a possible action.

I understand and favor many of the anti-trust complaints against google but this case seems just as absurd as Apple getting to patent "slide to unlock" and "data tapping"

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palak   United States. Feb 16 2012 09:30. Posts 4601


  On February 16 2012 08:52 blackjacki2 wrote:
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the problem with google having the information is that it may end up in the hands of the government. Not sure what their track record is in defending people's information against government subpoenas. I know it's been an issue for Twitter and some of the wikileaks people.



Google has an extremely good track record with ppl privacy rights when in court (would cite if wasnt mobile)

However unless u r planning a massive bombing I highly doubt there is ajything google has which the gov't doesnt already have and just doesnt give a shit about.

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Zep   United States. Feb 16 2012 17:02. Posts 2292

Pretty obvious someone sucked at business and made an awesome scam. If you think google is going to start charging for maps, you don't understand how business works. God damn, that suggestion is just ludicrous.

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blackjacki2   United States. Feb 16 2012 20:00. Posts 1932


  On February 16 2012 09:30 palak wrote:
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Google has an extremely good track record with ppl privacy rights when in court (would cite if wasnt mobile)

However unless u r planning a massive bombing I highly doubt there is ajything google has which the gov't doesnt already have and just doesnt give a shit about.



Yeah, I'm certain all these big tech giants are huge defenders of their user's privacy as their business depends on it. I remember yahoo going to court against a guy who sued them because he wanted the password to his son's email after he was killed in iraq.

There's also the issue of hackers stealing the data who might not be as protective as google. Was just listening to NPR in the car and they were talking about Chinese hackers and how good they are at pilfering information that not even Google is completely protected from them.


Mariuslol   Norway. Feb 17 2012 09:27. Posts 4411

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palak   United States. Feb 17 2012 10:46. Posts 4601

I doubt chinese hackers r gonna give two fucks bout any of my info, long as i have good identity theft protection im comfortable w/ any data they could grab
More realistic version of govt imo
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blackjacki2   United States. Apr 30 2012 16:44. Posts 1932

Google is finding itself in more trouble in France. They are being sued by an anti-racism organization because sometimes the auto-complete for certain celebrities comes back with "jewish." e.g. "Rupert Mur..." suggests "Rupert Murdoch jewish"

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-...rupert-murdoch-jon-hamm-jewish-318012

I didn't know an algorithm could be anti-semetic.


2c0ntent   Egypt. Apr 30 2012 16:53. Posts 1387

well that's a legit dumb lawsuit.. cash grab somehow?

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intown   Belgium. Apr 30 2012 17:24. Posts 121


  On February 16 2012 09:15 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Pretty sure the Google lawyer started laughing and paid him the 500k in cash from of his wallet.




I'm pretty sure of this


kingpowa   France. May 10 2012 09:04. Posts 1525

Bump :
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05...-by-u-s-over-apple-safari-breach.html
another case of privacy violation by google. They could settle a 10M fine.

saying this while using chrome and being logged to gmail. Should I worry for the stability of my browser ?

sorry for shitty english. 

 
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