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Handnr: 752351
Submitted by : hoylemj

PokerStars Game #33726483237: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2009/10/06 21:31:14 ET
Table Geminid III 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Micak1 ($10.90 in chips)
Seat 2: redsoxfan200 ($3.40 in chips)
Seat 3: Money Mick ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($12.55 in chips)
Seat 5: compnewb ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: mbanik ($12.50 in chips)
redsoxfan200: posts small blind $0.05
Money Mick: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 9s9c
Hero: calls $0.10
compnewb: folds
mbanik: folds
Micak1: raises $0.40 to $0.50
redsoxfan200: folds
Money Mick: folds
Hero: calls $0.40

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.15)

   3h9h4d
Hero: checks
Micak1: bets $0.90
Hero: calls $0.90

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2.95)

   3h9h4dJd
Hero: checks
Micak1: bets $2.50
Hero: raises $2.50 to $5
Micak1: raises $4.50 to $9.50 and is all-in
Hero: calls $4.50

River (Pot : $21.95)

   3h9h4dJd4s

Showdown
Hero: shows 9s9c (a full house, Nines full of Fours)
Micak1: shows JhJs (a full house, Jacks full of Fours)
Hero said, "nh"
Micak1 collected $20.90 from pot

Summary
Total pot $21.95 | Rake $1.05
Board  3h9h4dJd4s
Seat 1: Micak1 (button) showed JhJs and won ($20.90) with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Seat 2: redsoxfan200 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Money Mick (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Hero showed 9s9c and lost with a full house, Nines full of Fours
Seat 5: compnewb folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: mbanik folded before Flop (didnt bet)
cant escape the switch no matter how much I nit!!

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 06 2009 21:57. Posts 6817

Raise preflop! It's 6 max and you have a strong hand.

As played, c/r the flop. Honestly, don't slowplay out of position on a flushdraw board, you might end up losing your action because he gets scared.
Also, flop c/raises are not that scary. They aren't that expensive, they don't commit much of your stack and people will call them wide. Turn c/raises are scary as shit, because at this point you have to commit a shitload of your stack if you are bluffing, and any draw you might have had has a lot less equity here than on the flop making it less likely you are semi-bluffing. Not to mention that it's the "classic" way to play a set.

That's not to say that you need to c/r your sets 100% of the time, for all eternity, but I think at this level it's definitely the best option.

I like that you said nh without any sarcasm tho, that gets bonus points for sure.

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hoylemj   United States. Oct 06 2009 23:53. Posts 840

well it was something along the lines of
nh ...
(cut out of HH).. motherfucker

okay not really. yesterday or so, I really lost my cool, for what really feels like the 1st time - it's the first time I lost it that much anyway. Tonight, these losses are not such a big deal and I"m glad I'm back on track as far as that goes.

The hand yeah - definitely not played optimally. I'll admit that. I'm glad you mentioned the part about slow playing-OOP-flush draw cause I really didnt even think about it that much.

Not to say it's correct (the best way to play it generally), but my reasoning for the way the hand was played is normally I do raise most PPs, at least 99+, but at 10nl I've found it's hard often to take down pots when I miss or I often run into bad spots where I can't get to showdown. That plus the fact that limp/calling set-mining still gets paid off enough to justify it. Always depending on the table of course. But here I was playing much tighter than normal and experimenting with just L/C. maybe that's a bad idea. I was afraid he would fold to a flop raise (guess I should do it more often w/o a set)...slowplayign in general. We see how that went. I'd really have to go over my set-HHs sometime and see how profitable I've been being aggressive upfront vs. slow-playing. Open strong PP, aggression up front, pay attention to the texture & position, flp vs T c/r....Thanks for the advice.


TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 07 2009 03:51. Posts 6817

Well, I can see the reasoning behind limping when you are gonna get called in 3 spots if you have 22, for sure. 88, 99 just seem a bit too strong for that.

I personally try to avoid open limping without a really good reason to (limping behind another limper is fine tho, especially with awkward stacksizes etc), because playing pots oop without the initiative sucks - but it's more of an issue as you move up, at which point you are just going to get mercilessly raised and not paid off when you hit (I suppose it's possible to mix in just the right amount of limp/re-raising but it's making things harder than they really need to be).

Oh and I forgot to mention: turn c/minraise is just about the scariest line there is. I don't know why, but that's basically how every non-reg plays their monsters - maybe it's a left-over from Limit hold'em where they c/r the turn because you can now put in a big bet instead of a small bet... I dunno, but the point is: it's scary and bad because it lets your opponent draw for cheap.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

 

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