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Handnr: 46318
Submitted by : BigRed0000

PokerStars Game #5482641142: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/07/07 - 13:54:18 (ET)
Table 'Margarita' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BigRed0000 ($63 in chips)
Seat 3: smiiiile247 ($8.55 in chips)
Seat 4: alf3mb ($17.50 in chips)
Seat 5: SPLIFFGANJA ($68.70 in chips)
Seat 6: dnasol ($53.45 in chips)
smiiiile247: posts small blind $0.25
alf3mb: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards
Dealt to BigRed0000 JsAs
SPLIFFGANJA: calls $0.50
dnasol: calls $0.50
BigRed0000: raises $1.50 to $2
smiiiile247: folds
alf3mb: folds
SPLIFFGANJA: raises $2 to $4
dnasol: folds
BigRed0000: calls $2

Flop (Pot : $9.25)

   AdKsQs
SPLIFFGANJA: checks
BigRed0000: bets $7
SPLIFFGANJA: calls $7

Turn (Pot : $23.25)

   AdKsQs7s
SPLIFFGANJA: checks
BigRed0000: checks

River (Pot : $23.25)

   AdKsQs7sQh
SPLIFFGANJA: bets $8
GamacheF joins the table at seat #2
BigRed0000: calls $8

Showdown
SPLIFFGANJA: shows KdKh (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
BigRed0000: mucks hand
SPLIFFGANJA collected $37.35 from pot

Summary
Total pot $39.25 | Rake $1.90
Board  AdKsQs7sQh
Seat 1: BigRed0000 (button) mucked JsAs
Seat 3: smiiiile247 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: alf3mb (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: SPLIFFGANJA showed KdKh and won ($37.35) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 6: dnasol folded before Flop

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Swanfeld09   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:01. Posts 184

sickening

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You have to realize, the toughest person to beat at your table, is the one sitting in your seat. 

Arya   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:01. Posts 1631

check behind!?!?!


Arya   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:02. Posts 1631

you could push turn and he'd call


BigRed0000    United States. Jul 07 2006 12:04. Posts 3554

i checked the turn to represent being 'afraid' of the flush, i knwo if the river doesn't pair the board i'm stacking him.


Swanfeld09   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:08. Posts 184


  On July 07 2006 11:04 BigRed0000 wrote:
i checked the turn to represent being 'afraid' of the flush, i knwo if the river doesn't pair the board i'm stacking him.


guess that didnt work out to well LOL

You have to realize, the toughest person to beat at your table, is the one sitting in your seat. 

Arya   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:10. Posts 1631


  On July 07 2006 11:04 BigRed0000 wrote:
i checked the turn to represent being 'afraid' of the flush, i knwo if the river doesn't pair the board i'm stacking him.


or you're stacking him on the turn or making a big enough bet that river doesnt even matter

what if river was a ten or another spade, then you lose crazy value


BigRed0000    United States. Jul 07 2006 12:18. Posts 3554

or I had a read and notes that he was a guy who is incapable of laying down a set, i've sat at this table with him for 2 hours. When you guys realize that factoring in my table image and the fact that he is a station, you'll realize that my play was right. Not to mention I know i'm stacking him regardless unless the river pairs the board, so why wouldn't I just check behind on the turn to make sure I have the nuts when I put him all in. You guys need to start thinking outside the box.


nomanirvana   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:20. Posts 2523


  On July 07 2006 11:18 BigRed0000 wrote:
or I had a read and notes that he was a guy who is incapable of laying down a set, i've sat at this table with him for 2 hours. When you guys realize that factoring in my table image and the fact that he is a station, you'll realize that my play was right. Not to mention I know i'm stacking him regardless unless the river pairs the board, so why wouldn't I just check behind on the turn to make sure I have the nuts when I put him all in. You guys need to start thinking outside the box.



if he is incapable of laying down the set why not bet turn? you mean he IS capable of laying down the set on the turn?


BigRed0000    United States. Jul 07 2006 12:30. Posts 3554

if I put him in on the turn, there is still hance I can get sucked out on and lose a big pot (like what happened). If I know he's callign me down regardles, why not check the behind the turn and be sure that I have the nuts when the river doesn' improve him. All i'm doing is decreasing the chance that I get stacked if he fills up.


nomanirvana   United States. Jul 07 2006 12:34. Posts 2523


  On July 07 2006 11:30 BigRed0000 wrote:
if I put him in on the turn, there is still hance I can get sucked out on and lose a big pot (like what happened). If I know he's callign me down regardles, why not check the behind the turn and be sure that I have the nuts when the river doesn' improve him. All i'm doing is decreasing the chance that I get stacked if he fills up.



I think this is bad logic. If he is willing to be all-in on the turn theres no reason not to push it, thats better EV than checking behind and increasing the chance of either (1) suckout or (2) killing action. You may lose a big pot but 80% of the time you WIN a big pot. On the turn he is a very big underdog, and if he is willing to be all-in there thats always the best play. Just because you can get sucked out anyway doesnt mean you shouldnt get the money in with the best percentage.

checking the turn makes sense if he IS capable of folding the set and you get more value on river, but you want to bet if hes willing to pay $$$ to boat up...it all depends but if hes going all in on the turn whats the question, seems obvious to put him in there

 Last edit: 07/07/2006 12:38

Twisted    Netherlands. Jul 07 2006 12:35. Posts 10422

lol =[

you can't make money if you don't bet, this hand should be allin on the turn.


  if I put him in on the turn, there is still hance I can get sucked out on and lose a big pot (like what happened). If I know he's callign me down regardles, why not check the behind the turn and be sure that I have the nuts when the river doesn' improve him. All i'm doing is decreasing the chance that I get stacked if he fills up.



what kind of logic is that (if I bet turn I can get sucked out). If you make the correct play and you force him to make a mistake, you gain. Fundamental Theorem of Poker anyone? You're just decreasing variance here and doing -EV stuff.

Pot that turn.


straate   Argentina. Jul 07 2006 13:52. Posts 2837

lmao, im w/ twisted on this 1

silverfox971: if this was a live game i would spit on you 

Casper...   Canada. Jul 07 2006 15:14. Posts 2804

captain slowplay does it again

FEAD FEAN WDLTH 

JohnnyBologna   United States. Jul 07 2006 15:38. Posts 1401

what a chicken. GO all in on the turn so you can have a bad beat story after words even if you lose and least have some balls

Just do whats right 

 

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