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Handnr: 1086490
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Zoom Hand #202066103924: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2) - 2019/07/06 15:35:58 ET
Table Aenna 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: amsterAKov13 ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: PapaGun5286 ($390.57 in chips)
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz ($324.40 in chips)
Seat 4: fenomeen84 ($360.81 in chips)
Seat 5: DerRappler ($399.57 in chips)
Seat 6: Banginukas ($197.56 in chips)
PapaGun5286: posts small blind $1
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz AcJc
fenomeen84: folds
DerRappler: folds
Banginukas: folds
amsterAKov13: raises $2.50 to $4.50
PapaGun5286: folds
Stroggos_nz: raises $13.50 to $18
amsterAKov13: calls $13.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $37.00)

   Ts3hJs
Stroggos_nz: bets $37
amsterAKov13: calls $37

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $111.00)

   Ts3hJs5s
Stroggos_nz: checks
amsterAKov13: bets $29.23
Stroggos_nz: calls $29.23

River (Pot : $169.46)

   Ts3hJs5sQh
Stroggos_nz: checks
amsterAKov13: checks

Showdown
Stroggos_nz: shows AcJc (a pair of Jacks)
amsterAKov13: shows 9dQd (a pair of Queens)
amsterAKov13 collected $166.71 from pot

Summary
Total pot $169.46 | Rake $2.75
Board  Ts3hJs5sQh
Seat 1: amsterAKov13 (button) showed 9dQd and won ($166.71) with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: PapaGun5286 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz (big blind) showed AcJc and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: fenomeen84 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: DerRappler folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Banginukas folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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4TM   United States. Jul 06 2019 21:26. Posts 712

Almost certain k/c turn is a mistake. Best two options for this combo OTT being k/shove and shove.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 06 2019 21:30. Posts 5299

I think i played it well, i don't have a solver on me atm tho to check.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 07 2019 03:19. Posts 34250



This combo is more often bet than not, I suppose we need more value considering AsKx AxKs AsQx and AxQs are going to bet often, solver uses quite a mixed strategy between checks and bets, obviously this is very dependan on our offsuit 3Bet combos.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 07 2019 03:24. Posts 34250

also solver hates calling, it basically folds or shoves this turn and does shove AJcc

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 07 2019 04:27. Posts 5299

it does call with KJs almost always on turn, x/c with AJcc cant be too bad, the ev difference is shown to be extremely small. The bigger mistake is my flop sizing imo, should only really be using it with overpairs, i prefer a smaller sizing with something like AJ-as the solver shows this. I am pretty rusty atm tho

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 07/07/2019 04:31

drone666   Brasil. Jul 07 2019 08:44. Posts 1822

I dont understand much how to read this solver
but seems very weird to me to shove this hand on the turn, I think OTF the solver is using a smaller size with this combo so it's useless to check turn shove after potting flop when its a small branch of the tree and results get skewed

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 07 2019 10:55. Posts 5299

pio likes to give up and fold a lot like 80% in some spots. you'll note that in a lot of b/b/x spots it will just check-fold a ridiculous high amount. I would say the notion that a gto strategy cares at all about meeting these minimal defense frequencies is an old dogma that regs came up with before the solver era.

ok now i look like im talking to no one since you deleted your post.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 07/07/2019 10:56

Baalim   Mexico. Jul 07 2019 11:07. Posts 34250

lol I deleted it cuz I think he refered to the AJ combo in particular which indeed bets almost always, but it still remains that the solvers C/shove this turn very light

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