Fold pre prolly but is my turn play awful?
Survivorman2 is 37/25 reg AF 2,7, he likes to bluff time to time.
Ironic is fish.

not fold pre.

first thought was that ck/calling turn would be ok.. but this seems a bit better seeing as rivers would be tough to play

rly? he's 2 barrel bluffing this dry of a board into 2 players, one of them a fish?
doubt u have any fold equity on the turn and doubt both are folding to a shove with that pot/stack ratio... riv seems pretty easy to play? if u hit, just shove and hopefully one of them calls you.

yeah we're pretty much forced to play that way, which makes our range super unbalanced

i like shoving a more balanced range here, if i had set i'd play this way and be really unbalanced if i didn't have hands like this

Imo, when it comes to river spots at low stakes there's very little point in focusing on balance. In other words, shove turn when u have value and people are probably calling, call or fold when people probably aren't folding and you're a dog. I think at these stakes you see such a huge amount of players nobody is analysing river ranges, ever. Your hand might seem faceup as a flush (and all value hands) but since you're also at low stakes, you're under the guise of bad play and potentially not shoving 100% straights or flushes on those rivers. Can def see some missed straights bluffshoving flush rivs, getting paid by sets/strts/2pairs/lower flushes/AA?. Also, people can't fold easily, especially when the pot gets big. They aren't capable of telling the difference reliably (especially the fish) and it's better to just bet your hands for value and call when you have odds.

i'm not familiar with the player pools nowadays, and haven't played online real money in a while. definitely agree that check/call is fine, but our hand is nutty enough that i don't hate the shove. i think ironic is folding really often here, or calling after survivorman calls, so it's mostly about survivorman's range and how he plays.

I flat turn

fish will pay you off on river
reg never has a pure bluff and you don't exactly have a boner vs nutfds hh and a dude like that won't fold AA KK there

It's 3way with a fish in the pot - balance or GTO should not be considered at all

i flat turn as well here too most the time 3 way, on the flop i may c/r and jam turn, if i have a reason to play the hand fast.