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zulu_nation8   United States. May 13 2009 00:22. Posts 1929


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TremendousGats   Canada. May 13 2009 00:50. Posts 467

if your playing solid, no.

How you want it, bars or bullets? 

Night[Mare]   Mexico. May 13 2009 00:58. Posts 599

us microlimiters have a lot of leaks, its hard to identify them, but just keep playing your game. Maybe reduce number of tables if you must but try to let not swings move your mood to much. Just keep putting up hands and you'll eventually play solid

dcsscd hijo de pinos 

BalloonFight   United States. May 13 2009 01:00. Posts 1380

Honestly I dont think it is normal to have those big of swings at nl10.


zulu_nation8   United States. May 13 2009 01:06. Posts 1929

I guess I'm stacking off too light then? Can't see any other reason


skindzer   Chile. May 13 2009 01:12. Posts 299

Yes. You can even get a breakeven stretch of 15k hands once in a while. Most people will tell you thats its impossible that nl10 is ez and that they beat it with 10 ptbb but thats idiotic.

You still SHOULD ALWAYS go over your hands and be critical abou what is a bad beat or a cooler and what its bad play tough.


Zalfor   United States. May 13 2009 01:34. Posts 2236

no.


lazymej   Canada. May 13 2009 03:41. Posts 2897


  On May 12 2009 23:22 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I read somewhere that if you play solid you shouldn't have two losing sessions in a row at limits this low.



This is rubbish. Variance doesn't select higher limit players, it targets everybody who puts in enough hands.

That's not to say that if you are good you won't beat the limit. The fact of the matter is people are simply worse players at micros and if you are decent you will have a big edge over them.

Doesn't mean you can't get bad beated or coolered.


Sicks Macks   United States. May 13 2009 08:35. Posts 3929

You can definitely have swings this big at nl10, that said you have to be really cynical of your own play. When you've jumped 5-6 levels and put in 300k hands you're in a much better position to analyze your own play than if you're still at nl10, so take care to continue plugging leaks eve if you are getting bad-beated and coolered.

Mr. Will ThrowitLast edit: 13/05/2009 08:35

rockman255   Canada. May 13 2009 08:35. Posts 4471

the higher your ``true winrate`` the less swings like this you would have in theory but certainly even the best players can have 10 or 20 bi swings and not be able to `skill their way out of it```but if its something you find is happening every 25k hands randomly losing 10bi then you have a problem.

yeah and what everyone else is saying, definitely never get into a mood that òh i am better than these guys wtf` or `i am fated to have bad luck and mostly breakeven longterm` always work on improving and it will come gradually

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MayZerG   United Kingdom. May 13 2009 08:49. Posts 2123

post some hands dude of your big losers.

I like to hold all the nuts - CrownRoyal 

SmokingDough   Canada. May 13 2009 12:12. Posts 365

i had a nasty 12 buyin downer at nl25 not to long ago. you'll get through it man

Blaze it up 

k2o4   United States. May 13 2009 12:22. Posts 4803

you're probably making mistakes and if this is your first tough downswing then there's probably some tilt in there even if you don't think so. even if you were playing 100% perfect this could just be one of the insane downswings that hit us now and then where no amount of good play or discipline will win you money.

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bigbb33   Canada. May 13 2009 12:24. Posts 3679

PEACE TO THE ZULU NATION

they see me trollin, they hatin 

zulu_nation8   United States. May 13 2009 12:52. Posts 1929

theres definitely tilt in there but at most 2 or 3 buyins total where I look up the guy with third pair just to see what he has or something. Upon reviewing my hands I'm preeeetty sure 90% of my stack offs are coolers vs the respective 80vpvip fishes. I'll definitely post hands where I'm not sure if I should've stacked off or not. Thanks for advice guys


PokerDoc88   Australia. May 13 2009 15:00. Posts 3527

well it's possible, but it depends on what your normal winrate at 10nl is

for me I win 10+ptbb/100 at 10nl, so having a 10bi swing would be a very rare occurance

remember, the lower your true winrate, the more likely you will be losing over a given sample due to variance.


ConquistadoR   Germany. May 13 2009 16:27. Posts 1952

It should occur a lot less than on higher tables, but only assuming that your edge is significantly high. But less doesnt equal no, so ofc it is possible, even though a more unlikely than on higher stakes where your edge is lower.

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zulu_nation8   United States. May 13 2009 17:25. Posts 1929

updated op with graphs

 Last edit: 13/05/2009 17:43

zulu_nation8   United States. May 13 2009 17:34. Posts 1929

also I just self-banned my chat

 Last edit: 13/05/2009 17:58

 



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