Newbie help: Did I call it correct?

Hi TLP,

I'm a total noob, trying hard not to be a fish. Right now, I just play the micro zoom table at PS, and try to just play good hands. I followed Jelle's recommendations for new players and ended up with the hand below. Did I act correctly? I know these are penny games, but I would rather loose a penny than a dollar. Any tips and pointers are appreciated!


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call the turn

call turn, he can easily be v-betting hands like TT 9988 as well as doing stupid things like barreling AK AQ

since when is it ok to not 3bet this pre?

As played call the turn.

You should be 3betting this hand preflop for value.

Re-raise preflop, if not you should probably raise the flop.

if you NEVER fold an overpair + always play your overpair VERY aggro postflop at the micros (reraise flop shove turn), you will have much better results then someone trying to make reads and put people on ranges etc.. simply because you dont have enough experience to make the correct read. You gain that experience by playing these hands hard and seeing what happens (usually gonna result in you winning a lot of money)

Thanks all, this is very helpful!

I was afraid he had AJ in this particullar hand, because of the size of preflop raise combined with the postflop raise. but his weak turn-raise doesnt make sense. But this is micro's. I cant 'read', and none of us can play...

Anyway, what I understand from your comments is:

1 - re-raise preflop, 3 times his raise? (i.e opponent raise is 0.06, I reraise to 0.18), but what range? AA,KK,QQ?
2 - if I I have the overpair after flop, play it aggro (should only realistically loose to a set or play against a straight/flush draw)

So what should the proper response be if I call and he raises (asuming the river is a 'dud'-card)? re-raise all in?

Thanks!

3 b pre, but as played fold is ok, but i would raise in a spot like this.. jus cause

On May 03 2012 07:56 jvilla777 wrote: but as played fold is ok

big red no

On May 03 2012 05:02 Banj0 wrote: Thanks all, this is very helpful! I was afraid he had AJ in this particullar hand, because of the size of preflop raise combined with the postflop raise. but his weak turn-raise doesnt make sense. But this is micro's. I cant 'read', and none of us can play... Anyway, what I understand from your comments is: 1 - re-raise preflop, 3 times his raise? (i.e opponent raise is 0.06, I reraise to 0.18), but what range? AA,KK,QQ? 2 - if I I have the overpair after flop, play it aggro (should only realistically loose to a set or play against a straight/flush draw) So what should the proper response be if I call and he raises (asuming the river is a 'dud'-card)? re-raise all in? Thanks!

There are few specific reasons why you bet/raise. in this case, because the villain can call a raise with a2s+ 22+ k10s+ etc. (i.e a lot of hands that you beat) you can raise for value. Against really good/nitty players in fullring, because the range of hands that are worse than yours will fold (e.g. 77-1010, AJ, etc.), villains calling range narrows, your value raise becomes a bit thin and therefore calling with QQ might be the superior play,

in this case however; no.

This answers your flop question as well. What will he call a bet with? on this flop, will he call a raise with any J? What about any pair? if he can, you can raise for value.

This answers your river question as well.

I'm learning! ;-)

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On May 03 2012 15:41 Banj0 wrote: I'm learning! ;-) Submitted by : Unfortunately i am down about 4 dollars right now, without changing my starting hand strategy, but just not getting very good hands. And when I finally get AA or similar, I make 3 cents because everyone folds. I can tell it affects me, and I get more and more prone to calling "just to see the flop". I guess this is a valuable lesson in tilting, one best learned at 0.01/0.02 tables. It can be incredibly frustrating to "not even know what I don't know". Thanks again, I appreciate your responses.

better, but i think .19 pre and .32 flop would be great. given flop sizing i go .26

Yeah driest board in the world for a PFR-CALL range, no need to bet so superlarge, 5/7th would be more optimal than 6/7th of the pot.

On May 03 2012 15:41 Banj0 wrote: I'm learning! ;-) Submitted by : Unfortunately i am down about 4 dollars right now, without changing my starting hand strategy, but just not getting very good hands. And when I finally get AA or similar, I make 3 cents because everyone folds. I can tell it affects me, and I get more and more prone to calling "just to see the flop". I guess this is a valuable lesson in tilting, one best learned at 0.01/0.02 tables. It can be incredibly frustrating to "not even know what I don't know". Thanks again, I appreciate your responses.

Curious how many tables you play - playing too many isn't ideal for learning, but I cant imagine playing too few while doing something so robotic as micro stakes grinding, without going insane!~

On May 03 2012 05:02 Banj0 wrote: Thanks all, this is very helpful! I was afraid he had AJ in this particullar hand, because of the size of preflop raise combined with the postflop raise. but his weak turn-raise doesnt make sense. But this is micro's. I cant 'read', and none of us can play... Anyway, what I understand from your comments is: 1 - re-raise preflop, 3 times his raise? (i.e opponent raise is 0.06, I reraise to 0.18), but what range? AA,KK,QQ? 2 - if I I have the overpair after flop, play it aggro (should only realistically loose to a set or play against a straight/flush draw) So what should the proper response be if I call and he raises (asuming the river is a 'dud'-card)? re-raise all in? Thanks!

This would be a very good result, SNAP call and celebrate

On May 04 2012 13:43 TianYuan wrote: Curious how many tables you play - playing too many isn't ideal for learning, but I cant imagine playing too few while doing something so robotic as micro stakes grinding, without going insane!~

I play the 0.01/0.02 Zoom table, so I don't feel comfortable playing more than two at the most. It is plenty quick and not too much time to think either. Just fast-fold, fast-fold, fast-fold, fast-fold, until a playable hand appears.

oh your from sweden. I guess you'll be crushing 10/20 in 2 years time.