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NL50 ATs facing a shove on the river

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bhamm!!   Philippines. Apr 23 2012 10:46. Posts 46

villain is a big fish running 61/31 with 2.2
insta call?
Submitted by : bhamm!!

***** Hand History for Game 11679752523 ***** Party
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, April 23, 10:21:54 ET 2012
Table Table 201560 No DP Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 5: ByronBay $50.00 USD
Seat 2: SLOTOW $41.03 USD
Seat 3: hyazint99 $41.55 USD
Seat 1: minouelito $50.72 USD
Seat 4: Hero $50.00 USD
Seat 6: sanjusto80 $65.07 USD
minouelito posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
SLOTOW posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [AhTh ]
hyazint99 calls [$0.50 USD]
Hero raises [$1.50 USD]
ByronBay folds
sanjusto80 calls [$1.50 USD]
minouelito folds
SLOTOW folds
hyazint99 calls [$1.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $5.25)

   7hJhAs
hyazint99 checks
Hero bets [$4.00 USD]
sanjusto80 folds
hyazint99 calls [$4.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $13.25)

   7hJhAsQc
hyazint99 checks
Hero bets [$9.44 USD]
hyazint99 calls [$9.44 USD]

River (Pot : $32.13)

   7hJhAsQc4s
hyazint99 bets [$26.61 USD]


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barbieman   Sweden. Apr 23 2012 13:31. Posts 2132

There's simply not enough info to say. We have no idea how he plays post-flop.
So the answers you will get will just be speculations, where one or more of the assumptions that leads to the answer might be off.

In a post-flop vacuum, I'm folding. I'd guess he could have any two pair+, won't be as likely to turn hands that has showdown value into bluffs
since the fd misses. You have AhTh so there aren't as many flush draws out there. 89 isn't calling turn, 9T, KQ, QT are but he's
most likely ch-c or ch-f river. KT is a possibility. Playing any hand for value like this is strange as fuck though. Would be nice to have any info.


barbieman   Sweden. Apr 23 2012 13:37. Posts 2132

make it 2-2.5 pre. What sort of hands has he been limping and what hands has he been raising from utg?


mnj   United States. Apr 23 2012 13:51. Posts 3848

when passive fish start betting into me i know i'm beat

i would prob still call though just to see if its J4 or A4

maybe see some herats

 Last edit: 23/04/2012 14:07

eestwood   United Kingdom. Apr 23 2012 15:05. Posts 702

yea you are most likely beat, but you have very little behind I guess its pretty close , prolly call.

my approach to this spot - before I bet the river here vs this player type, I need to decide whether I am bet/f or bet/calling. If I dont do this decision b4 I bet and I get raised, it really tilts me.

If I decide its a bet/fold spot I can bet little less leaving me more room for a fold and feel better about it.. hope it makes sense..

can we all ball 

Almebeast   Sweden. Apr 23 2012 15:23. Posts 797

^ I don't think anything in your post makes sense eestwood... =/
Hero covers so it's almost a pot sized shove. And hero never bet river, villain donk shoved.

With no info except the stats OP provided I call. A little info could turn it into an easy fold though.

After all is said and done, more is said than done. 

Tensai176   Canada. Apr 23 2012 16:35. Posts 1018

I call. People get retarded sometimes and the only thing I really see as value here is A4.

Just looks really weird...


K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 23 2012 20:39. Posts 2202

Look like some fish that hit two pair on the river. Gotta fold imo.

GG 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 23 2012 22:02. Posts 8649


  On April 23 2012 12:37 barbieman wrote:
make it 2-2.5 pre.



this

i call river pretty fast

Truck-Crash Life 

Fraser   Canada. Apr 24 2012 17:25. Posts 4605


  On April 23 2012 21:02 bigredhoss wrote:
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this

i call river pretty fast

Maybe not at these stakes, but if you start opening 5x with a wide range to isolate fish, you'll get 3bet very often from good adjusting regs.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 25 2012 00:31. Posts 8649

ehh i find it surprising how rarely my fish iso's get 3-bet even at 200nl, not saying i play with good adjusting regs though lol. i think there's a bigger danger of the pot going 3-4 way and being oop w/AT postflop if he makes it 3x.

Truck-Crash Life 

Fraser   Canada. Apr 25 2012 12:21. Posts 4605

ATs plays really well multiway, and you won't necesarily be oop.
That being said we'd still rather be hu vs the fish and play bigger pots with stronger hands in position, so if people arent 3betting your iso raises then by all means 4x or even 5x it.


YoMeR   United States. Apr 25 2012 13:14. Posts 12438

i think call/note might be best unless we know even a little that he is on the more passive side. then this is a snap muck

eZ Life. 

djdood0o0o   United Kingdom. Apr 26 2012 13:23. Posts 2

Insta fold obv.


Sh1tter   United Kingdom. Apr 27 2012 08:50. Posts 36

easy fold. when you're beat you're beat. no sense putting more $ in the pot with a lost cause.

I raised A2C otb in zoom, went pretty well 

 



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