2 hands NL10

First of all hi to all!
I've been visiting LP for more than few years just to look at ROFL thread, and read some threads. I decided to give a shot at posting some hands since I started playing a bit again. I also have some concept/general questions about NLHE, but I'll post that later maybe. Anyways, here are the hands:

First hand guyy is 24/20/18.6 after 44... he seemed aggressive but I didn't really play more than just a check/fold vs him.
I've been getting crushed honestly at NL5 and NL10 with JJ pf so I don't know how to play it well. I thought if this guy is aggro, it's more +EV if I let him fire. What do you do on turn ??? Or what would you do PF, or flop ?

Submitted by : el_Pato

PokerStars Hand #78121684192: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/03/31 16:22:35 ET
Table Bali II 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: AlexxaPT ($10.78 in chips)
Seat 2: TwistedValor ($10.91 in chips)
Seat 3: i l0sE a loT ($12.23 in chips)
Seat 4: dave5290 ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($12.37 in chips)
Seat 6: paauug ($10.40 in chips)
AlexxaPT: posts small blind $0.05
TwistedValor: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
i l0sE a loT: folds
dave5290: folds
Hero: raises $0.20 to $0.30
paauug: folds
AlexxaPT: raises $0.65 to $0.95
TwistedValor: folds
Hero: calls $0.65

Flop (Pot : $2.00)

   
AlexxaPT: bets $1.53
Hero: calls $1.53

Turn (Pot : $5.06)

   
AlexxaPT: bets $3.38

PokerStars Hand #78123958573: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2012/03/31 17:04:09 ET
Table Ernestina III 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: nando575751 ($10.61 in chips)
Seat 2: Eugene_1986 ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 3: clAudioK.ArG ($4.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Shishio13 ($13.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($10.96 in chips)
Shishio13: posts small blind $0.05
Hero: posts big blind $0.10
Dobrobei: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
nando575751: folds
Eugene_1986: raises $0.20 to $0.30
clAudioK.ArG: folds
Shishio13: folds
Hero: raises $0.80 to $1.10
Eugene_1986: calls $0.80

Flop (Pot : $2.25)

   
Hero: bets $1.40
Eugene_1986: calls $1.40

Turn (Pot : $5.05)

   
Hero: checks
Eugene_1986: bets $1.90
Hero: calls $1.90

River (Pot : $8.85)

   
Hero: bets $6.56 and is all-in

hand 2 just 3ball or c/r turn. as played i wouldnt donk river ai on the worst card in the deck 4u

hand 1: Well played, Probably raise turn unless you think he will fire blank rivers w/ AK type hands (alot of players won't), then just flat.

hand 2: Definitely bet turn. You don't want to let an A,8 or 9 roll off on the river and ruin your action. Villain has hands like 88,99,T9s, that always call turn.

Thanks for your comments.

hand 1: I eventually shoved, but wasn't too sure about my hand being good there, really. Do I get called by worse there ever ???
He literally insta-bet the turn, and took a long while to fold. I wonder if he could have folded better than mine for 40BB more... When I re-raise him all-in there it seems like I have a monster.
Isn't it better to just call the turn IP there ? Since as I say, I don't think I get called by worst ?

hand 2: Yes, I agree that betting turn is better given that he could hold 88,99,T9,s, maybe AT. I haven't even thought of those hands when the turn came... but I guess I have to expand people's ranges.

But that creates another question. It all depends on the 3bet calling ranges right ? And I know that with no reads this is only theory, but what would be the best play given that he was holding only pocket pairs, 66+ and we evaluate the hand from the turn.

When I run that in pokerstove on the turn - KK vs 66+ it's 57.5% for KK vs 42.5% for 66+. I know that 88/99 will fold most of the time given 60% bet, 66/77 will call/shove, JJ,QQ,KK,AA will call most of the time.
And if I get called vs 66+, and the river comes a Th, what is the best plan knowing that 88/99 folded 75% of the time (?), and the rest - 66/77/TT/AA beat me, JJ/QQ,KK win/split.

I'd appreciate all comments, cause I never really spent any time before breaking down hands due to being too lazy, and this might be off just as well.

hand 1; we wont expect villian to 2-3 barrel bluff since this is nl10 and your hand is pretty good here. so i would minraise flop to try and induce some action/protect your hand/get it in.

hand2: standard 3barrel for value.

Stroggoz - what should be the villain's 3bet % to say my hand is pretty good here ?
I mean 18.6% is ok to proceed as you told, but what would be the % range to do the same if it was somebody else ?

Because obviously if somebody had 1.8% 3bet after 2k hands I probably wouldn't play the same...
I'm just trying to estimate the value of JJ preflop.

Thanks

you shouldn't get cute like you did in hand 2 unless you have a very specific read which points towards this being more profitable then 3-barrelling

On April 01 2012 12:33 el_Pato wrote: Stroggoz - what should be the villain's 3bet % to say my hand is pretty good here ? I mean 18.6% is ok to proceed as you told, but what would be the % range to do the same if it was somebody else ? Because obviously if somebody had 1.8% 3bet after 2k hands I probably wouldn't play the same... I'm just trying to estimate the value of JJ preflop. Thanks

you can figure these things out using pokerstove. Top 1.8% of hands is AA, KK, QQ, JJ.

the two most important variables for getting it in are 1) his 3bet % stat. 2) hands youve seen him 3bet with. Then there are other variables like how they play postflop in this particular spot. example: they could 3bet jam the flop with AK every time.
if you've ever seen him 3bet with a non top 3% hand then i'd say it's safe to get it in vs someone 3betting 1.8%. if not, then it's ok to just fold pre as you only beat bottom of his range.