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[nl50 6max] KQ, bet/folded river 2p.

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Try2BePerfect   . Mar 05 2012 14:25. Posts 469

Submitted by : Try2BePerfect

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$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 05, 02:03:57 ET 2012
Table Altais V Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $37.50 USD - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: Infinity, Hands: 53
Seat 2: Hero $74.07 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.2, Hands: 442093
Seat 4: Player4 $50.00 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 2.2, Hands: 341
Seat 5: Player5 $54.39 USD - VPIP: 15, PFR: 14, 3B: 2, AF: Infinity, Hands: 136
Seat 6: Player6 $37.79 USD - VPIP: 25, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 32
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [QcKs ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [$1.50 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero calls [$1.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $3.25)

   Qs4dTc
Hero checks
Player6 bets [$1.00 USD]
Hero raises [$3.00 USD]
Player6 calls [$2.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $9.25)

   Qs4dTc3d
Hero bets [$6.00 USD]
Player6 calls [$6.00 USD]

River (Pot : $21.25)

   Qs4dTc3dKd
Hero bets [$8.50 USD]
Player6 raises [$27.29 USD]
Hero folds
Player6 wins $18.79 USD
Player6 wins $36.53 USD from main pot
Not many hands vs opponent, played once with him when called my 3b IP, and I x/f on Txx.
I think my raise on flop, and bet on turn were too small, but anywa pot in game were a bit smaller due to rake.
What do you think about bet/fold on river?
He seemed pretty passive, so I think I get calls from weaker hands, and he shove only better and maybe KQ also.

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jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Mar 05 2012 14:43. Posts 2835

If I fuck up the sizing as bad like you did I would just shove river, but thats just me.

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

julep   Australia. Mar 05 2012 15:52. Posts 1274

id make flop 5-5.50


Rapoza   Brasil. Mar 05 2012 16:54. Posts 1612

--- Nuked ---

Pouncer Style 4 the winLast edit: 05/03/2012 17:00

Try2BePerfect   . Mar 05 2012 18:21. Posts 469

Hm, he seemed to me as a passive player, maybe I pigeonholed him to fast and sticked with an image of him too much, I guess I shouldn't have after only 30 hands, and not so clear stats (25/13/2.0).

Now I think I played it really badly, considring he might have been totally different type of player. He might put me even on KJ, QJ sth like that and raise bluff/raise for value with much weaker hands.

Anyway, thanks for kindly replies!


Oly   United Kingdom. Mar 06 2012 05:17. Posts 3585

You'd have successfully induced me with that bet, that's for sure.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 06 2012 08:22. Posts 8649

4.75 flop 9.5 turn sets up a nice river shove imo

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gawdawaful   Canada. Mar 06 2012 13:00. Posts 9015

villain looks like a weaker player who might overplay AK/AA on river for value

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Minsk   United States. Mar 06 2012 20:49. Posts 1558


  villain looks like a weaker player who might overplay AK/AA on river for value


never happens in 2012,

the mistake here is you shitty sizing like everyone said,

what is his range? go fuck around with pokerstove i have no idea


  He seemed pretty passive, so I think I get calls from weaker hands, and he shove only better and maybe KQ also.



great, so you solved it why post?


superfashion   United States. Mar 06 2012 21:32. Posts 918


  On March 06 2012 04:17 Oly wrote:
You'd have successfully induced me with that bet, that's for sure.



This.

Folding to a raise here seems really bad, especially since you bet so small on river (and every other street actually).

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

gawdawaful   Canada. Mar 07 2012 00:00. Posts 9015

By weaker player I mean recreational casino type, not a weaker reg who has some degree of competence. Basically a fish who isn't quite a drooler

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Mar 07 2012 00:21. Posts 5647

passive fish don't raise the river without the nuts.
I say this as someone who calls river checkraises all the time. "one of these days, one of these days... they'll be bluffing!" but. they. never. are.
Just think about basic pshycology, guy sits down with $37, his whole bankroll on the table, the money obviously means alot to him. He's not going to risk it all on bluffing/Betting-to-thin a player who has shown strength betting 3 streets. a common fish thought is "you can't lose what you don't put in the middle"
Your line is good for getting value out of a scared-money fish with a queen thought maybe bigger turn bet. but have to fold to shove on this river.

 Last edit: 07/03/2012 00:26

goose58   United States. Mar 08 2012 20:14. Posts 871

Ya I agree with Silver, fish rarely bluff. Especially on the river as a CR allin. All the draws got there too. Definitely bet bigger on each street.


 



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