VPNs for US players?

Just wondering if anyone has been able to get access to play on pokerstars using VPNs post-DOJ. I heard right after it happened stars and tilt apparently stated they would be cracking down on them but im curious to see how true that is. Any info on VPNs would be helpful :o

I wouldnt gamble.. Stars rep told me that if they caught the person they would ban the account and confiscate the monies.. Not sure if its a scare tactic or not, but def wouldnt chance it.

ya been thiinking about this myself some, haven't used any vpns to play or anything, but don't think stars will ever cater USA players again...

hence not so bad of an idea even if ur acct gets confiscated

im just moving north; ;-)

Stars usually lets u slide breaking TOS stuff but if anything you do now jeopardizes their arrangement with the DOJ which can cost up to the billions I'm pretty sure they'd be happy to make your account an example of their goodwill towards the DOJ and snap close your account. Personally I wouldn't risk it especially if you have a lot to lose by getting banned.

hand banana u move to canada right? can u give some info on what it took to do it and what thnigs to think about?

id really like to know what my best options are

To move to Canada, you must do the following;

1. A clear copy of your driver's license, or any other valid government issued picture ID.

2. A clear copy of a recent utility bill clearly showing your full name, address in the non-US country of residence and statement date (no older than 3 months).

3. A clear copy of a non-US (non-US territories) bank account statement showing your full name, statement date and current address outside the US (and/or US territories).

4. Your landline phone number in your new country of residence, should we need to contact you.

Can I play at Full Tilt Poker through a VPN or similar workaround? No. Players caught doing so are subject to having their account closed and funds forfeited.

thats in ftps faq. scary thought

On May 21 2011 05:10 DooMeR wrote: hand banana u move to canada right? can u give some info on what it took to do it and what thnigs to think about? id really like to know what my best options are

send them a scan of your US passport or US driver's license

go to royal bank of canada, open a bank account, ask them for a statement with your name and address on it, and preferably their stamp of approval

it was confirmed on 2+2 that you can use your landline bill as a utility bill, plus they need to call you on your landline at your new residence to speak to you directly(they ask you some questions, some may be account specific)

and that's about it, just need to pass border patrol. make sure you don't look like you're moving your entire life there, it would look suspicious, unless your story adds up.
you can say you're there to visit a gf or visit some friends, but it would suck if you plan to stay there long term and you get stamped for x amount of days.
would also suck if they ask you for exact locations and stuff, but they probably wouldn't considering a shit ton of people just go in and out of border patrol on a daily basis, but you never know, it could happen.

and you can tell them the truth about online poker, and either 1 of 2 things will happen:
1. the border patrol guy won't really care and lets you go
2. you might get sent to immigration offices for questioning.

when passing the border it's best to keep documentation on you to prove you have ties to the US(bank statement showing a large amount of funds, tax return, etc)

i was going to relocate to canada originally, so i did a ton of research, but then relocated to taiwan instead.

On May 21 2011 09:15 Exhilarate wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2011 05:10 DooMeR wrote: hand banana u move to canada right? can u give some info on what it took to do it and what thnigs to think about? id really like to know what my best options are send them a scan of your US passport or US driver's license go to royal bank of canada, open a bank account, ask them for a statement with your name and address on it, and preferably their stamp of approval it was confirmed on 2+2 that you can use your landline bill as a utility bill, plus they need to call you on your landline at your new residence to speak to you directly(they ask you some questions, some may be account specific) and that's about it, just need to pass border patrol. make sure you don't look like you're moving your entire life there, it would look suspicious, unless your story adds up. you can say you're there to visit a gf or visit some friends, but it would suck if you plan to stay there long term and you get stamped for x amount of days. would also suck if they ask you for exact locations and stuff, but they probably wouldn't considering a shit ton of people just go in and out of border patrol on a daily basis, but you never know, it could happen. and you can tell them the truth about online poker, and either 1 of 2 things will happen: 1. the border patrol guy won't really care and lets you go 2. you might get sent to immigration offices for questioning. when passing the border it's best to keep documentation on you to prove you have ties to the US(bank statement showing a large amount of funds, tax return, etc) i was going to relocate to canada originally, so i did a ton of research, but then relocated to taiwan instead.

lol why taiwan?

Why Taiwan you ask? Taiwan is the best fucking place ! ;-)

when i was 19 i taught english there for a year, never had more fun in my life than in taiwan, hands down.
The girls are amazing, the nightlife is sick good, the food is amazing and the people are all v cool and friendly. Also, a very safe country.

Out of everywhere I've been, its where I'd choose to live the remainder of my life :-) but I was 19 then, idk how i'd feel about it nowaday at 26.

exhilerate, what do u mean stamped for x amt of days?

if they think you are trying to abuse it, do they only allow you to stay for x amt of days?

thanks,
ryan

On May 21 2011 16:50 YoMeR wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2011 09:15 Exhilarate wrote:   On May 21 2011 05:10 DooMeR wrote: hand banana u move to canada right? can u give some info on what it took to do it and what thnigs to think about? id really like to know what my best options are send them a scan of your US passport or US driver's license go to royal bank of canada, open a bank account, ask them for a statement with your name and address on it, and preferably their stamp of approval it was confirmed on 2+2 that you can use your landline bill as a utility bill, plus they need to call you on your landline at your new residence to speak to you directly(they ask you some questions, some may be account specific) and that's about it, just need to pass border patrol. make sure you don't look like you're moving your entire life there, it would look suspicious, unless your story adds up. you can say you're there to visit a gf or visit some friends, but it would suck if you plan to stay there long term and you get stamped for x amount of days. would also suck if they ask you for exact locations and stuff, but they probably wouldn't considering a shit ton of people just go in and out of border patrol on a daily basis, but you never know, it could happen. and you can tell them the truth about online poker, and either 1 of 2 things will happen: 1. the border patrol guy won't really care and lets you go 2. you might get sent to immigration offices for questioning. when passing the border it's best to keep documentation on you to prove you have ties to the US(bank statement showing a large amount of funds, tax return, etc) i was going to relocate to canada originally, so i did a ton of research, but then relocated to taiwan instead. lol why taiwan?

idk, my parents kept saying it would be good for me to live here cause they have an apartment here.
but honestly, i dont live in a big city like taipei, it's pretty inconvenient for me to get around
the supermarkets arent like the US, bus in my area doesn't run from like 10 am to 4 pm, and doesnt run late nights, dont have a car/scooter.
it sucks right now, so in the end i may just move to canada anyway

btw i can play on my account in the states, so i dont think a VPN will help?

On May 22 2011 09:37 iop wrote: btw i can play on my account in the states, so i dont think a VPN will help?

wait, you are now allowed to play on PS/FTP from USA if your account is from Non-USA? I thought they were clearly stating you cannot play PS when you visit USA

^

if that´s true:

RENTING MY ACCOUNT, MSG ME WITH UR BEST OFFER.

Pretty sure you can not play in the usa even if you are not a citizen here. I know several euros who are here for wsop and they can't play online.

On May 22 2011 17:43 bongky wrote: ^ if that´s true: RENTING MY ACCOUNT, MSG ME WITH UR BEST OFFER.

+1

its a weird situation coz if europeans cant play on their accounts from the US their rights are being extremely violated while if the clients dont close all their connections to the US they r gon get raped

On May 21 2011 09:15 Exhilarate wrote: Show nested quote + On May 21 2011 05:10 DooMeR wrote: hand banana u move to canada right? can u give some info on what it took to do it and what thnigs to think about? id really like to know what my best options are send them a scan of your US passport or US driver's license go to royal bank of canada, open a bank account, ask them for a statement with your name and address on it, and preferably their stamp of approval it was confirmed on 2+2 that you can use your landline bill as a utility bill, plus they need to call you on your landline at your new residence to speak to you directly(they ask you some questions, some may be account specific) and that's about it, just need to pass border patrol. make sure you don't look like you're moving your entire life there, it would look suspicious, unless your story adds up. you can say you're there to visit a gf or visit some friends, but it would suck if you plan to stay there long term and you get stamped for x amount of days. would also suck if they ask you for exact locations and stuff, but they probably wouldn't considering a shit ton of people just go in and out of border patrol on a daily basis, but you never know, it could happen. and you can tell them the truth about online poker, and either 1 of 2 things will happen: 1. the border patrol guy won't really care and lets you go 2. you might get sent to immigration offices for questioning. when passing the border it's best to keep documentation on you to prove you have ties to the US(bank statement showing a large amount of funds, tax return, etc) i was going to relocate to canada originally, so i did a ton of research, but then relocated to taiwan instead.

so ESSNTIALLY what i think ur trying to say is to cross the border say im just going to visit someone. And basically set up residence without a visa?

On May 22 2011 19:26 Mig wrote: Pretty sure you can not play in the usa even if you are not a citizen here. I know several euros who are here for wsop and they can't play online.

My bad. Mig is right. I can't play without a VPN..