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the_body   . Dec 06 2011 11:33. Posts 29


  On December 05 2011 11:51 scriber wrote:
he obv floped the royal flush . I am folding the river. No one is raising and check/calling 2 str and then check jam the river as bluff on boards with high cards.




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This is one of those spots where i think if villian was gonna bluff he would just bet the flop and not get crazy on a paired board.


jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Dec 06 2011 12:03. Posts 2835

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how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

barbieman   Sweden. Dec 06 2011 14:13. Posts 2132

that is a completely different situation


barbieman   Sweden. Dec 06 2011 14:15. Posts 2132

ok, not completely, but wobbly can have more hands than villain here. Villain either has KQdd or A2s


mnj   United States. Dec 06 2011 16:53. Posts 3848

so pretty much exactly the same situation -___-


SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 06 2011 18:08. Posts 6298

stop comparing it to wobbly's hand. im not saying it's totally different but saying it's pretty much the same situation is BS. they are deeper, woblly did check every street, it's on friggin nl10k etc... tons of variables that differ and makes it a different situation.


jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Dec 06 2011 18:37. Posts 2835

btw I wasn't comparing them, I just thought is was funny

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

Venrae   United States. Dec 06 2011 18:55. Posts 1545

I don't know why villain would be c/c'ing AJ/AT/AA/JJ on this board. Makes me want to call river. I wouldn't be surprised to see KQdd, but I have a real hard time believing he has a boat on the river unless it's A2. I could see him having Ax or like KJxd/QJxd.

It would be really really really nice to have better notes here. Readless I'm calling because there is just so little I expect to lose to and with little to no history I'm not discounting villain being retarded and deciding he can rep the nuts.

Learn to appreciate the value of the dollar. The rest is easy. (Hurricane @ TL) 

TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 07 2011 01:07. Posts 20070

this is what I label a near 100% meaningless hand, discussing this hand will not make you a better poker player, calling is fine, folding based on NO read and random HUD stats is .... fun, good luck, this is such a meaningless spot ;-0 i hate hands like this

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Dec 07 2011 12:10. Posts 10896

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL i love you tom


TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 08 2011 12:35. Posts 20070

apparently you guys know something i dont, cause this is a turbo snapp call for me

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Try2BePerfect   . Dec 08 2011 13:23. Posts 469

So many replies! Even I (Even I !) thought after reading this hand that it's a call without much thoughts. The first post "lol awesome" just made me more certain.

And, don't know if I am right, but shouldn't we bet more on each street?


lebowski   Greece. Dec 09 2011 09:15. Posts 9205

To snap callers:
So you think he does this with worse for value? Or do you agree that we are merely bluff catching because the line makes little sense?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 09 2011 09:47. Posts 20070


  On December 09 2011 08:15 lebowski wrote:
To snap callers:
So you think he does this with worse for value? Or do you agree that we are merely bluff catching because the line makes little sense?



who the fk knows what hes doing this with, how can we possibly make so many assumptions, this guy posts 2 stats which i could care less about and now we are folding boats? seriously?

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 09 2011 09:48. Posts 20070

how does him c-betting 62% of the time have anything to do witht he hand? also who gives a shit about his rivfer CR %?

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 09 2011 09:49. Posts 20070

i didnt even know that stat existed

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

casinocasino   Canada. Dec 09 2011 10:05. Posts 3347

Tom, dont teach nits not to fold boats.

 Last edit: 09/12/2011 10:06

lebowski   Greece. Dec 09 2011 11:47. Posts 9205

I wonder why anyone has to be overly critical of other peoples' mistakes,this isn't your son to be disappointed gentlemen. Not even a stubborn stranger. Poor noobs like me or OP never want to start a thread ever again and this forum dies by people jumping on hate bandwagons. Yes, asking the wrong questions and providing irrelevant stats is a noob mistake too. You could argue angry advice> any advice but still I think the whole attitude is what makes my refresh btn on the poker strategy forum seem broken.

on the hand :
we know he is a reg and that he considers OP str8fwd.How hard is it to assume he knows we can have boats and that he knows boats>flushes. He proceeds to c/s river after minimal thought. Relative hand strength here says our hand is a bluff catcher so please anyone who says "lol snap coz boat" answer me how this is a snap call. If it's a call it can't be something other than a fml call (my initial thought was fuck it, call, but I don't understand why it is so easy as some people suggest). How many years ago would regs overplay their hands with stuff like AK/flushes taking weird lines like this? On the other hand I could also say SNAP and pray my spying future villains believe me. =D
Note that I agree this isn't a very important hand, I just find the whole snap thing a bit weird

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

mnj   United States. Dec 09 2011 12:42. Posts 3848



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scriber   . Dec 09 2011 19:12. Posts 299

yea pretty much what lebowski says

 Last edit: 09/12/2011 19:13

 
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