nl25 AA (300bbs deep) - Page 2

Pretty gross spot. I'd probably just check the turn here. I have no idea what worse hands call. Pretty sure KK might even fold. I might actually just check this flop as well and turn it into a 2 street game.

Hero: raises $5 to $7.25

after this we have to be so sure we are beat if we are folding at any point in the hand. We could find a close fold here vs some opponents but I say just ship it in imo...people aren't going to play perfectly against us and can easily make big mistakes and stack off with worse. bet/bet/shove imo.

if it did get to this particular river obviously check/fold is the play but even on this turn I think we are going to have to stack it here almost always. I wouldn't feel too bad about it if he shows us a flush QQ/JJ

I bet smaller on flop, 8ish and go with that same sizing on turn with the intention of probably folding if he shoves then. Once you bet this big on the turn tho, I don't think we can ever find a fold

Villian is a Nit reg at Nl25 in case u didnt read ops first post
A shove on the turn by a nitty reg with almost no fold equity after op bets turn = JJ,QQ or AKs close to 100% imo

on this turn action i just cant see a single hand we beat !


TToms stove stuff is nice and all but obsiously its flawed in the way that it assumes he has KK,AA here as often as JJ,QQ or a flush which imo is far from the truth in reality.
How often will a nitty reg shove in for more than 100bb with KK on this turn ?
imo close to zero %

With KK this type villian will be damn happy to fold turn or in case he drunk his superhero energy drink call and hope for a check/check river

so i think all the AA (obviously since we have AA ourselfes), KK and even the KxKd (Since NIt player range for raising turns) combos are a lot less likley than JJ , QQ or AdKd


I have played quite a lot with some Nl25 regs in the not too far away past and allthough some of them do try to ballance their pf ranges in strange ways (calling polarized instead of raising polraized ^^) and will get caught with "thrash" in small pots ocassionally
when they play this way in big pots = they always have it !

This is a sick spot. TT is definitely right though. You have to bet flop, and if he calls, I think check calling turn is best, then river is a fold in this case and a call if we fill up.

That's really the only way to play this hand. Just a bad spot.

On December 24 2011 00:50 rememp wrote: This is a sick spot. TT is definitely right though. You have to bet flop, and if he calls, I think check calling turn is best, then river is a fold in this case and a call if we fill up. That's really the only way to play this hand. Just a bad spot.

You say c/c turn ... Why you will call the turn if you intend to fold any river instead your two outs came ? you making your Aces a drowing hand out of psn with two outs. This plan is not very good.

Take note of this play and move on.

I think you can fold turn here a high % because a nitty reg is never bluffing in this spot this deep imo. When he shoves this turn, your over pair is gonna be crushed so often.. Vs different players you can warrent a call, but not vs someone who rarely 3bets and rarely calls 4bets.

spending time dissecting hands such as these will not yield you greater profits or loss either way.

+1 on don't post results. On the hand, probably fold on the turn. You don't have any redraw to the flush and you're super deep. hands like those go way down in value

I think fold on the turn is nice, becouse of the deep staks and because the reg Nit will shove on turn with worse almost never.
With 100bb staks I'm callingstation.

On February 04 2012 17:58 insan3 wrote: I think fold on the turn is nice, becouse of the deep staks and because the reg Nit will shove on turn with worse almost never. With 100bb staks I'm callingstation.

you are making a lot of mistakes thinking like this