200NL Ez Fold? - Page 3

On September 10 2010 10:58 Minsk wrote: its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call

Yikes, if poker can only be played with cards face up your reading abilities would work

call.

On September 13 2010 11:47 mrpav.com wrote: Show nested quote + On September 10 2010 10:58 Minsk wrote: its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call Yikes, if poker can only be played with cards face up your reading abilities would work

lol true that to much result oriented.!

On September 12 2010 21:35 Zalfor wrote: leveling urself is always bad

why am i leveling my self cause i am playing i feel comfrotable in?

The point is, stop posting useless hands... whats the question, is it a fold? its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call. How are we suppose to help you? Its a straight up math range question except were all going to come up with different ranges...your ranges should be best from actually playing with him...so what is there to discuss exactly?

The extreme analogy for this post is like god asking humans for the meaning of life...

On September 13 2010 15:08 Minsk wrote: The point is, stop posting useless hands... whats the question, is it a fold? its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call. How are we suppose to help you? Its a straight up math range question except were all going to come up with different ranges...your ranges should be best from actually playing with him...so what is there to discuss exactly?

uhh using this logic you could say every single hand that's posted is pointless

the hands which give useful discussion are hands like "how should i proceed" where people can discuss different ranges & betsizings with their benefits because there is valid different ways to proceed and different ways to balance and different levels you can use etc...whereas hands like this are just "what do you guys think he has" like theres nothing to discuss here...we can argue 3 days whether he will do this with 85o but in the end the poster has the best information...

but everything you said about this hand can still be said about more "constructive" hands, it's exactly the same concept, you just view this hand as more simplistic.

On September 13 2010 15:18 Minsk wrote: the hands which give useful discussion are hands like "how should i proceed" where people can discuss different ranges & betsizings with their benefits because there is valid different ways to proceed and different ways to balance and different levels you can use etc...whereas hands like this are just "what do you guys think he has" like theres nothing to discuss here...we can argue 3 days whether he will do this with 85o but in the end the poster has the best information...

discussing different ranges is pretty much asking 'what do you guys think he has' lol

yeah the arugement i used above doesnt explain waht i meant well ... its not a simplistic or complex thing its something else maybe like open & closed questions or something

the best example i remember, here its open ended question you can decide numerous balanced ranges or unbalanced ranges / future metagame implications etc, like useful discussion can be had fromt his hand
http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/866801/NL400_-_Turn_KK_into_bluff_.html

there is some fundamental difference between these two hands, i cant put a word on it but its there its not because this is a simple hand though, its something about there being nothing to talk about

discussing different ranges is pretty much asking 'what do you guys think he has' lol

i meant your ranges

Hero needs to learn to use pokerstove, a lot of hands posted here can easily be calculated using pokerstove ;-0

even against a very pesimistic range this is a snap call

minsk it just sounds like youre throwing random poker terms out there.

just cause i said ez fold i aint asking just if its a fold or not i am actually asking how should it be played. Against such a wide range of hand.

Played flawlessly aside from the fold.