200NL Ez Fold? - Page 2

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PokerMoscow ($158.15)

On September 08 2010 01:52 TalentedTom wrote: raise folding this flop is insane

lol insane in which mode good or bad?

On September 08 2010 08:22 ggplz wrote: meal buddy.. move down to 25 or 50nl & grind up/improve.. you're playing so many hands you post horribly.. either that or stick to MTTs exclusively since you seem to make money from them...

Why you care so much what i play jeez if i am here is cause i feel comfromtable and just so you know i am + in 200NL for the past few months since i ended my coaching so i am playing right. And just cause i could make one mistake dosent mean i dont deserve or whatever in your mind you think to play wherever. I'm here to get advice on how to play hands better in future just like you could probably have same problems so bah

yea cool just stick to nl200
btw.. ggplz gave you friendly advice... and realy last 3-4 threads you made are such a trivial spots so my advice would be same as his

On September 09 2010 14:11 MeaL wrote: and just so you know i am + in 200NL for the past few months since i ended my coaching so i am playing right.

Not necessarily. He was just trying to help.

On September 08 2010 14:16 Twisted wrote: ..and PokerMoscow ($158.15)

ya srsly wtf, this would be a fold vs a good reg, but as played vs a guy with 75bb named PokerMoscow is an insta ship

Meal, you can play whatever limit you like but perhaps you should try to play less tables or something. I agree with the other who have said that it looks like you dont really plan ahead. I did that for ~50k hands this summer and stopped doing it by starting to talk to myself about what I was going to do in the hand. You need so little to get those "aha" moments. But I also admit that I dont know how many tables you're playing, just stating what i've observed.

gl hf at the tables

You have 35% equity against 98; TT is not in his range, two pair can be in his range, and combo draws can be in his range. You can tweak the range to be a bit more conservative than what I put in Stove here, but I don't think you can realistically take so many of the non-77 hands out that you ever don't have odds to call.

Board: Td 7s 6d
Dead:

Hand 0: 56.070% 55.50% 00.57% 77971474 807323.00 { 6h6s }
Hand 1: 43.930% 43.36% 00.57% 60914505 807324.00 { 77, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Jd9d, Jd8d, T7s-T6s, 98s, 9d7d, 8d7d, 8d5d, 76s, 5d4d, T7o-T6o, 98o, 76o }

I'm gonna get a new account called PokerMoscow, brb.

Ontopic: Would it have been smarter to just lead out and then flat a raise? Or is the discussion more in the direction of: I check-raise here to get money in, so when he ships I insta-call? Or both are fine, just the middle kinda stinks?

call pretty fast b/c of all the reasons mentioned above

he is in bb, he can have T7/T6/67 combinations, as well as draws of all kinds

and 75bb stack

dont overthink and just call

its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call

On September 10 2010 10:58 Minsk wrote: its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call

lol?

On September 11 2010 14:15 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 10 2010 10:58 Minsk wrote: its only a fold if he has a straight or a higher set, otherwise its a call lol?

superuser imo

the only real set he has here is 77 since i'm assuming TT will raise a huge % of the time. most aggressive players will pop up 77 here a lot too.

that said I wouldn't feel good about getting it in here but what can we do? only one possible straight and villain ships T7 here as well. Gotta get it in yo. I'd feel good about a fold here if board was like 678 and someone shipped on you. But then you should just lead/flat the flop anyway.

As everyone said I think you took the worst possible line here by raise/folding. What did you hope to accomplish by taking this line?

On September 09 2010 22:14 Trey wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2010 14:11 MeaL wrote: and just so you know i am + in 200NL for the past few months since i ended my coaching so i am playing right. Not necessarily. He was just trying to help.

yeah i guess but it also sounds like i am getting all the time judge cause of 1 play.

On September 11 2010 19:50 YoMeR wrote: the only real set he has here is 77 since i'm assuming TT will raise a huge % of the time. most aggressive players will pop up 77 here a lot too. that said I wouldn't feel good about getting it in here but what can we do? only one possible straight and villain ships T7 here as well. Gotta get it in yo. I'd feel good about a fold here if board was like 678 and someone shipped on you. But then you should just lead/flat the flop anyway. As everyone said I think you took the worst possible line here by raise/folding. What did you hope to accomplish by taking this line?

see where i'm @ i guess?

leveling urself is always bad

Long thread, and I didn't read most of it, but bottom line is we don't fold sets to 75bb stacks, especially after we raise that flop.

"Raise to see where you're at" is horrible fish mentality, Meal. Good players don't think that way. When I realize that people are doing this, I abuse them horribly by just always reraising. They ask a question and I give them the answer I want them to hear.

Id snapcall, what if he has 2 pairs, or draw + top pair, if he has the straight, u got outs =p

gogo