Good or bad??

Submitted by : MeaL

Full Tilt Poker Game #23520879275: $35,000 KO Guarantee (180390123), Table 4 - 400/800 Ante 100 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:32:46 ET - 2010/08/31
Seat 1: XcitationX (40,382)
Seat 3: vt52 (23,391)
Seat 4: dcookie (15,900)
Seat 5: Legals Legend (16,432)
Seat 6: luckystraw (7,910)
Seat 7: Raposa Felpuda (3,642)
Seat 8: MeaLOwNz (49,081)
Seat 9: DAKKE13 (37,446)
XcitationX antes 100
vt52 antes 100
dcookie antes 100
Legals Legend antes 100
luckystraw antes 100
Raposa Felpuda antes 100
MeaLOwNz antes 100
DAKKE13 antes 100
DAKKE13 posts the small blind of 400
XcitationX posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8

Holecards
Dealt to MeaLOwNz
vt52 calls 800
dcookie folds
Legals Legend folds
luckystraw folds
Raposa Felpuda has 15 seconds left to act
Raposa Felpuda has timed out
Raposa Felpuda folds
Raposa Felpuda is sitting out
Raposa Felpuda has returned
MeaLOwNz raises to 2,889
DAKKE13 folds
XcitationX folds
vt52 calls 2,089

Flop (Pot : $7,778.00)

   
vt52 checks
MeaLOwNz checks

Turn (Pot : $7,778.00)

   
vt52 bets 2,400
MeaLOwNz calls 2,400

River (Pot : $12,578.00)

   
vt52 has 15 seconds left to act
vt52 bets 3,200
MeaLOwNz has 15 seconds left to act
MeaLOwNz has requested TIME
MeaLOwNz raises to 22,178
vt52 has 15 seconds left to act
vt52 has requested TIME
vt52 folds
Uncalled bet of 18,978 returned to MeaLOwNz
MeaLOwNz mucks
MeaLOwNz wins the pot (18,978)

Summary
Total pot 18,978 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: XcitationX (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: vt52 folded on the River
Seat 4: dcookie folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Legals Legend folded before the Flop
Seat 6: luckystraw folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Raposa Felpuda folded before the Flop
Seat 8: MeaLOwNz (button) collected (18,978), mucked
Seat 9: DAKKE13 (small blind) folded before the Flop

you're vbetting here imo

yea just call the river u have the best hand here most of the time

As played I would definitely call the river doubt I would raise dunno if its necessarily bad though, but im expecting my AQ to be good most of the time.

I normally c-bet after I iso here though

What game are you guys playing??

How on earth can you expect to be good here most of the time with AQ.

wobbly i hope u r trolling...What do you think 1/3 pot bet on the turn from the fish means and then 1/4 pot bet on the river? In tournaments it usually means that he has a VERY VERY BIG SHIT + there are so many possible straight draws that he could missed and decide to try to steal the pot by betting 1/4 pot on the river...However i think that all of weak aces,kq qj and shits like this are in his range. The fish isnt brave enough to value bet any pair on that board (he check/call with them 100% of the time imo) so if he really has sth it is a flush or trips which he wont fold ever so that raise doesnt make sense at all.

On September 01 2010 09:07 Mierzwix wrote: wobbly i hope u r trolling...What do you think 1/3 pot bet on the turn from the fish means and then 1/4 pot bet on the river? In tournaments it usually means that he has a VERY VERY BIG SHIT + there are so many possible straight draws that he could missed and decide to try to steal the pot by betting 1/4 pot on the river...However i think that all of weak aces,kq qj and shits like this are in his range. The fish isnt brave enough to value bet any pair on that board (he check/call with them 100% of the time imo) so if he really has sth it is a flush or trips which he wont fold ever so that raise doesnt make sense at all.

lol u dont play much poker do you

timing on turn/riv actions? you say it looked suspicious and i believe you and i think any way you start turning his range around in your mind that this river jam cannot be bad in any way shape form given your read. gh.

On September 01 2010 11 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 11      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:06 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2010 09:07 Mierzwix wrote: wobbly i hope u r trolling...What do you think 1/3 pot bet on the turn from the fish means and then 1/4 pot bet on the river? In tournaments it usually means that he has a VERY VERY BIG SHIT + there are so many possible straight draws that he could missed and decide to try to steal the pot by betting 1/4 pot on the river...However i think that all of weak aces,kq qj and shits like this are in his range. The fish isnt brave enough to value bet any pair on that board (he check/call with them 100% of the time imo) so if he really has sth it is a flush or trips which he wont fold ever so that raise doesnt make sense at all. lol u dont play much poker do you

lol
http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/913530/Bad_spot_in_Sunday_500.html
for sure he is just a casual micro stakes fish

Why do you raise so much preflop?

I like the jam
there have been so many incidents where I've known he was weak as hell and then I ended up just calling river with aq or whatever and the asshole was trying to bluff with bottom pair or whatnot.. if you know he's weak then just push weak hands, if you had 55 instead then I'd be more fond of calling.

it's even possible that he folded JT or something like that with the third diamond hitting.

On September 03 2010 02:44 ciachooooo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2010 11 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 11      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:06 wobbly_au wrote:   On September 01 2010 09:07 Mierzwix wrote: wobbly i hope u r trolling...What do you think 1/3 pot bet on the turn from the fish means and then 1/4 pot bet on the river? In tournaments it usually means that he has a VERY VERY BIG SHIT + there are so many possible straight draws that he could missed and decide to try to steal the pot by betting 1/4 pot on the river...However i think that all of weak aces,kq qj and shits like this are in his range. The fish isnt brave enough to value bet any pair on that board (he check/call with them 100% of the time imo) so if he really has sth it is a flush or trips which he wont fold ever so that raise doesnt make sense at all. lol u dont play much poker do you lol http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/913530/Bad_spot_in_Sunday_500.html for sure he is just a casual micro stakes fish

do you hold his hand when he goes to the toilet too?

he doesnt bet the river witj jt imo especially when the diamond hit. He folded worse

btw by checking flop you represent nothing (except for 22) so if i were him i would think about calling you with any pair

On September 03 2010 10:00 Mierzwix wrote: btw by checking flop you represent nothing (except for 22) so if i were him i would think about calling you with any pair

ok instead of berating you im actu and give some advice.

we can safely rep 8X 22 any 2 diamonds.

LOL really you shove 8x or 2 diamonds here while the line of this donkey screams: i have the nuts or i have 7 high? That s why i prefer calling to see a 7 high then shoving and get called by 44,tt etc

One more thing: DONT BLUFF DONKS

AND DONT VALUE BET THEM WITH ACE HIGH SERIOUSLY

On September 03 2010 14:44 Mierzwix wrote: LOL really you shove 8x or 2 diamonds here while the line of this donkey screams: i have the nuts or i have 7 high? That s why i prefer calling to see a 7 high then shoving and get called by 44,tt etc

This is an intelligent post, I think u have what it takes to beat the cash games on pokerstars. Switch to cash games imo.!

Instincts say AQ is good here but either way he's folding hands like 55/66/77 etc. on the bubble with a flush draw on a paired board with overcards to his pockets. Looks pretty safe, you're forcing him to fold his 2p or worse hands considering there's a ton of stuff that you could have hit that beats stuff like 55/66/77.

--- Nuked ---

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lol

On September 03 2010 08:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: I like the jam there have been so many incidents where I've known he was weak as hell and then I ended up just calling river with aq or whatever and the asshole was trying to bluff with bottom pair or whatnot.. if you know he's weak then just push weak hands, if you had 55 instead then I'd be more fond of calling. it's even possible that he folded JT or something like that with the third diamond hitting.

THIS.

Happens SO MANY TIMES. I like the jam. I swear, this villain probably had a small pocket pair or some stupid shit.

yeah you're really not repping much here but i really like your raise against players not capable of thinking in these spots.

By checking the flop your repping nothing, i would call you with everything on the river. That cbet is so important for your river shove or re raise to make sense.