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TheHuHu3   United States. Aug 30 2010 15:38. Posts 5544

I haven't played poker for close to a month now. I feel that I don't really like playing poker if I am not in the mood for it, as I don't focus as sharp as I'd like to.

Thing is, I "want" to want (yes aware of double want) play poker for long sessions like I used to, but I don't have the motivation to. I am really not in need of money right now but I still love poker, I just don't play it anymore it seems. I come to this website everyday and look at almost every thread / hand and try to learn as much as I can but again, I don't have the motivation to play.

Any tips?

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Spicy   United States. Aug 30 2010 15:44. Posts 1027

sounds like you've got it good, no pressure and not in NEED of the money. Just live your life and play for fun


Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 15:46. Posts 801

No tips from me. generally what is keepign you back are the reasons that you DONT want to play.

realise why you DONT want to play - is it the stress?

then put that in perspective (would i rather work a normal job after all?)

imo a KEY KEY aspect to poker endurance is having tangible friends/associates to encourage you. its very hard to do alone, if you are over a certain age threshold (24+) in my experience (although thats probably because you've had a lot of bad downheartening experiences by then!!)


qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 30 2010 15:57. Posts 14026

maybe try learning a different game?

or just look at this for a while:


Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 16:00. Posts 801

oooooooooooooh makes me want to make a "shaving ur head" topic :D


Newblish   Canada. Aug 30 2010 16:02. Posts 560

im struggling with the same problem right now. It's as if i need some sort of pressure to make me play, otherwise it wont happen enough. Starcraft2 just coming out didnt help either.


Jun   Croatia. Aug 30 2010 16:10. Posts 825


  On August 30 2010 14:57 byrnesam wrote:
maybe try learning a different game?

or just look at this for a while:





Pretty good point actually. When i was learning PLO i was pretty motivated.

Life is a coinflip 

Stygg   Sweden. Aug 30 2010 16:15. Posts 2347

when I feel like this, I usually just 1-table at a slightly higher limit than I normally play, and always while doing something else, maybe watching a movie or reading something.

Or watch old HSP episodes or other poker clips on youtube/pokertube.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 30 2010 16:17. Posts 15163

So don't play long sessions?

You don't need money...just play when you want to. Throw in some live games, mixed games and you will never get bored.

93% Sure!  

Maynard!   United States. Aug 30 2010 16:20. Posts 4453

You love it because you rarely play it.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

impact69   Mexico. Aug 30 2010 16:26. Posts 307

watch a video from Krantz


LsDDeaD   Bulgaria. Aug 30 2010 16:33. Posts 165

Switch to live poker.Much more fun besides the game.


Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 16:39. Posts 801


  On August 30 2010 15:15 Stygg wrote:
when I feel like this, I usually just 1-table at a slightly higher limit than I normally play, and always while doing something else, maybe watching a movie or reading something.

Or watch old HSP episodes or other poker clips on youtube/pokertube.



so u play above ur bankroll (apparently) and with zero concentration? be careful with this selfgratifying behaviour when your important income is on the line. play below ur limit if anything. realise what ur doing is purely recreational. personaly i do the same but with $1 sngs.


Jhyun88   United States. Aug 30 2010 16:45. Posts 1383

I actually don't believe you can create motivation out of thin air in your mind when it comes to poker. Maybe make a big prop bet with someone? lol


Stygg   Sweden. Aug 30 2010 16:52. Posts 2347


  On August 30 2010 15:39 Perisie wrote:
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so u play above ur bankroll (apparently) and with zero concentration? be careful with this selfgratifying behaviour when your important income is on the line. play below ur limit if anything. realise what ur doing is purely recreational. personaly i do the same but with $1 sngs.


i said slightly higher, it's standard shot taking. not like i'm loading up 9 tables of it, it's cool.
and "above bankroll" isnt really that risky if you follow a 100 BI rule
i would never 1-table below my limit are you insane? how boring would that be


sTrAtO   Mexico. Aug 30 2010 17:11. Posts 5882

have a child lol

-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja 

Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 17:14. Posts 801


  On August 30 2010 15:52 Stygg wrote:
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i said slightly higher, it's standard shot taking. not like i'm loading up 9 tables of it, it's cool.
and "above bankroll" isnt really that risky if you follow a 100 BI rule
i would never 1-table below my limit are you insane? how boring would that be



standard shot taking? for a start its not standard shot taking to be watching a fucking movie when you do it. it doesnt matter how many tables you have open, your BB100 is affected the same ratio whether your playing 1 table or 100. you would never play lower than your limit but you would play (a limit above) whilst watching a movie? and i'm supposed to be the insane one? my logic is sound, your logic is "its boring!". L2P


Stygg   Sweden. Aug 30 2010 17:22. Posts 2347


  On August 30 2010 16:14 Perisie wrote:
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standard shot taking? for a start its not standard shot taking to be watching a fucking movie when you do it. it doesnt matter how many tables you have open, your BB100 is affected the same ratio whether your playing 1 table or 100. you would never play lower than your limit but you would play (a limit above) whilst watching a movie? and i'm supposed to be the insane one? my logic is sound, your logic is "its boring!". L2P



not like im following the movie 95% and devoting 5% of my brain power to the poker table, ppl can multi task you know -_- you'll be surprised to hear all the things poker players do while grinding. i think 1 movie and 1 table is well within my abilities to do well. while i appreciate your concern for my poker career, my post was directed to OP and was a suggestion i have personally found to work well.


Jun   Croatia. Aug 30 2010 17:29. Posts 825

Watching a movie and playing one table is even boring if you ask me, you can EASILY play 4 tables and watch a movie, and whenever i do i dont feel i'm losing focus.

Life is a coinflip 

Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 17:39. Posts 801


  On August 30 2010 16:22 Stygg wrote:
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not like im following the movie 95% and devoting 5% of my brain power to the poker table, ppl can multi task you know -_- you'll be surprised to hear all the things poker players do while grinding. i think 1 movie and 1 table is well within my abilities to do well. while i appreciate your concern for my poker career, my post was directed to OP and was a suggestion i have personally found to work well.



it may be that you're a seasoned and skilled player but if that is the case and you are able to successfully to play out of your roll whilst watching a movie i still find it incredulously irresponsible to reccommend such a thing to someone else


Stygg   Sweden. Aug 30 2010 17:51. Posts 2347


  On August 30 2010 16:39 Perisie wrote:
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it may be that you're a seasoned and skilled player but if that is the case and you are able to successfully to play out of your roll whilst watching a movie i still find it incredulously irresponsible to reccommend such a thing to someone else



dude it's 1 table. it's poker. ppl take shots. they don't play $1 sng's when they're bored and want to get the poker feel back.
can we pls stop discussing this bs now, it's my suggestion to OP, he can take it or dismiss it. if you must keep discussing, why not create a thread in general forum, you seem to be good at that


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 30 2010 17:56. Posts 8918

This is the natural progression for most people, once poker becomes a task and moving up the limits/ money is no longer that important you wont have motivation. Its like saying gee Ive worked at a cubicle doing paperwork for 2 years and I cant seem to get motivated doing it any longer now.


vltava   United States. Aug 30 2010 18:21. Posts 1742

I think playing poker for years is like a marriage in the sense that if you want to keep it going, you have to recognize that your reasons will change over time. You'll have to find your own motivation, but it may help to recognize that if you're trying to get yourself to play by conjuring up exactly the same feeling about poker that you used to have, then you're doing it wrong.

tooker: there is very little money in stts.  

TheHuHu3   United States. Aug 30 2010 18:22. Posts 5544


  On August 30 2010 15:48 RaSZi wrote:
you dont like poker and you dont feel like playing. Hmm sick dilemma.



Where did I say I didn't like poker?

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k4ir0s   Canada. Aug 30 2010 18:31. Posts 3483

i have the same problem ever since I stopped caring about the money, I lost almost all motivation to play poker..

maybe try spending more money on stuff that makes you happy? so it increases your need/want for money.

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

vlseph   United States. Aug 30 2010 18:46. Posts 3026

aim at maybe at a promotion or something? stuff like SN and/or SNE seems to be a decent motivator for lots of PS grinders. iron man on FTP is another motivator although the bonuses from it suck.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

joLin   United States. Aug 30 2010 19:26. Posts 3818

theres no quick fix to laziness.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 19:34. Posts 801


  On August 30 2010 16:51 Stygg wrote:
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dude it's 1 table. it's poker. ppl take shots. they don't play $1 sng's when they're bored and want to get the poker feel back.
can we pls stop discussing this bs now, it's my suggestion to OP, he can take it or dismiss it. if you must keep discussing, why not create a thread in general forum, you seem to be good at that



"theres no quick fix to laziness" guy below pretty much gave me the best way to reply to u. i hope u take it to heart. ill write it out again if u didnt catch it the first time. "theres no quick fix to laziness".


Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 19:40. Posts 801

THERE'S NO

QUICK FIX

TO

LAZINESS


Stygg   Sweden. Aug 30 2010 19:56. Posts 2347

are you dumb or something? how is it laziness to take the occasional shot at a slightly higher limit? we cant all play your shitty $1 SNGs, that's certainly no quick fix either


Grindasaurus   Canada. Aug 30 2010 20:06. Posts 350

learn to play the violin


Perisie   . Aug 30 2010 20:19. Posts 801

I've got a good idea. You need to wank maybe 3 times a day right? You don;t do shit else in your life so I'm assuming needing to wank 3 times is standard for you. It's probably four times, but we can work up to that. You know busy people never wank? They just don't need to. What you need is to become a busy person. The less you need to wank, the more you can play poker. Ever had those shitty boring sessions where after 20 minutes you need to sit out and wank? Its because you're not challenging yourself enough. I recommend playing at least one level above your standard stake, but also at the same time you need to watch a movie. Movies take a lot of concentration to watch and if you talk to a busy guy who watches 10 movies per day he'll tell you that he really doesn't have time for wanking or for anything else. So it's my recommendation that you watch a movie while you play poker - cut down to 1 or 2 tables so you can really focus on the movie. You'll feel more busy, stop wanking as much, and still get good results in your poker. Just be careful that you don't watch sexy american films. That can mess up your poker, concentration AND your wanking.


joLin   United States. Aug 30 2010 20:47. Posts 3818


  On August 30 2010 18:34 Perisie wrote:
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"theres no quick fix to laziness" guy below pretty much gave me the best way to reply to u. i hope u take it to heart. ill write it out again if u didnt catch it the first time. "theres no quick fix to laziness".


no idea how what i said applies to stygg lol.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

milkman   United States. Aug 30 2010 21:16. Posts 5719

i actually have the same prob as OP, normally when i got a decent money in the bank, like 6 months of bills paid or w/e, i just dont wanna play anymore.. honestly what i do these days is just go drink alot and spend all my money, and *poof* im back on the tables and lol..

but i can admit i dont like poker anymore, its a way to pay bills, its not my passion

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Aug 31 2010 00:46. Posts 8623

Stygg is nice and smart. I don't watch movies while playing poker but the general idea seams sound.


sawseech   Canada. Aug 31 2010 00:55. Posts 3182

get on a plane somewhere and fuck bitches

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

milkman   United States. Aug 31 2010 01:38. Posts 5719

watch ESPN 60 Four Days With Phil Ivey

but caution.. may induce degeneracy

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.Last edit: 31/08/2010 01:39

RYMJ9017MD   . Aug 31 2010 01:56. Posts 113

dont force it, if you dont feel like playing, then dont

ERES UN PAYASO! XD  

K40Cheddar   United States. Aug 31 2010 02:16. Posts 2202


  On August 30 2010 19:19 Perisie wrote:
I've got a good idea. You need to wank maybe 3 times a day right? You don;t do shit else in your life so I'm assuming needing to wank 3 times is standard for you. It's probably four times, but we can work up to that. You know busy people never wank? They just don't need to. What you need is to become a busy person. The less you need to wank, the more you can play poker. Ever had those shitty boring sessions where after 20 minutes you need to sit out and wank? Its because you're not challenging yourself enough. I recommend playing at least one level above your standard stake, but also at the same time you need to watch a movie. Movies take a lot of concentration to watch and if you talk to a busy guy who watches 10 movies per day he'll tell you that he really doesn't have time for wanking or for anything else. So it's my recommendation that you watch a movie while you play poker - cut down to 1 or 2 tables so you can really focus on the movie. You'll feel more busy, stop wanking as much, and still get good results in your poker. Just be careful that you don't watch sexy american films. That can mess up your poker, concentration AND your wanking.



WTF????

GG 

TalentedTom    Canada. Aug 31 2010 02:24. Posts 20070


  On August 30 2010 18:40 Perisie wrote:
THERE'S NO

QUICK FIX

TO

LAZINESS



This - turns out, when no one forces / pressures you do do something - most people end up doing nothing. It's why many work places have asshole bosses, you work to keep this asshole off your back. Furthermore a lot of you (including myself) don't really need money now, my life expences are almost non existant - but you work hard / put in the hours now so you have more comfortable future / freedom.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

anon   Lithuania. Aug 31 2010 05:42. Posts 5965

long term goal is what you need? e.g house? go for it start by pointing out the goals which are related to poker/money and go for it... let says make a goal save 10K a month

Doyle Brunson: Fights with your wife or girlfriend are not healthy for you bank roll 

sChOuA   Switzerland. Aug 31 2010 05:50. Posts 2302

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Loco   Canada. Aug 31 2010 06:37. Posts 21022

your problem is that you have no ambition that currently relate to poker, if you had you would be motivated. there's nothing you can do, you don't force ambitions, you don't perform by wanting to perform, it simply doesn't work. if you have ambitions non-related to poker then just pursue that. if you have no ambitions at all then try to figure out what you really like in life and it'll come by itself. i'm in the same boat and it's why i don't currently play. it's kind of a shame to shit on a really good hourly rate just because we're not motivated to do something, but poker isn't going anywhere anyway.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

ggplz   Sweden. Aug 31 2010 06:54. Posts 16784


  On August 31 2010 05:37 Loco wrote:
your problem is that you have no ambition that currently relate to poker, if you had you would be motivated. there's nothing you can do, you don't force ambitions, you don't perform by wanting to perform, it simply doesn't work. if you have ambitions non-related to poker then just pursue that. if you have no ambitions at all then try to figure out what you really like in life and it'll come by itself. i'm in the same boat and it's why i don't currently play. it's kind of a shame to shit on a really good hourly rate just because we're not motivated to do something, but poker isn't going anywhere anyway.



this is how i feel >_<

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

OSUpokerz   United States. Sep 21 2010 22:30. Posts 7

When I stare into the eyes of Antonius it's like I'm staring into the eyes of God.


redrain0125   Canada. Sep 21 2010 22:53. Posts 5455

go on a really big downswing, that should motivate you


starscream3   Bulgaria. Sep 21 2010 23:11. Posts 45

for every hour you dont play poker now, you will spend 5 times more, working on a job you hate after 10 years. think about this


Uptown   . Sep 22 2010 14:45. Posts 3557

ask yourself why you play.

Half Pot! 

Into Infinity   United States. Sep 22 2010 15:00. Posts 1884

is perisie just a huge troll or what?


mrpav.com   Canada. Sep 22 2010 15:10. Posts 3069

i get motivated when i tell myself that i'm going to play good today and win some money

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thumbz555   United States. Sep 22 2010 15:10. Posts 3281

Sounds like you have too much money. Go spend some, then look at your bank account for motivation.

I click buttons. 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Sep 22 2010 16:11. Posts 10896

perisie is so fucking wierd


thewh00sel    United States. Sep 22 2010 16:26. Posts 2735

if you play a donkament while you grind you have to grind til you bust out

A government is the most dangerous threat to man’s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims. - Ayn Rand 

Maynard!   United States. Sep 22 2010 16:59. Posts 4453

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

terrybunny19240   United States. Sep 22 2010 18:30. Posts 13829

haha

I find waking up in the morning instead of the afternoon gets my fired up and ready to play much more than otherwise.

 Last edit: 22/09/2010 18:36

Fayth    Canada. Sep 22 2010 18:59. Posts 10085


  On August 30 2010 15:48 RaSZi wrote:
you dont like poker and you dont feel like playing. Hmm sick dilemma.


hahahaha i couldn't help but laugh :D

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

edzwoo   United States. Sep 23 2010 07:28. Posts 5911

You can temporarily generate motivation by running propbets with friends based on volume and/or profit over small periods of time. If it's over a longer period of time someone will probably get really far behind and give up. It actually works pretty well if you have a competitive nature, regardless of how much you put up.


tloapc   Pitcairn. Sep 23 2010 15:43. Posts 2591

Q: How to get motivated to play?

A: become poor

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

Zep   United States. Sep 23 2010 17:04. Posts 2292


  On September 23 2010 06:28 edzwoo wrote:
You can temporarily generate motivation by running propbets with friends based on volume and/or profit over small periods of time. If it's over a longer period of time someone will probably get really far behind and give up. It actually works pretty well if you have a competitive nature, regardless of how much you put up.


GENIUS.
totally forgot how well this shit works. need motivation right now too. Rush is gonna get a nice br fucking the next few weeks.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

whamm!   Albania. Sep 23 2010 19:01. Posts 11625

i was thinking of having a propbet for volume amongst other players(300 each or more then loser doesnt get his money back etc). might help with hand volume woes. havent played this month 35k hands only, breakeven total this month meh


Maynard!   United States. Sep 23 2010 19:17. Posts 4453


  On September 23 2010 14:43 tloapc wrote:
Q: How to get motivated to play?

A: become poor



Basically sums it up.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

whamm!   Albania. Sep 23 2010 20:23. Posts 11625

look at boob thread and see what money can potentially get you - well potentially


sirracksalot   United States. Sep 23 2010 22:45. Posts 2299

tldr, smoke weed + listen to music = success!

haters gonna hate 

Loco   Canada. Sep 23 2010 23:13. Posts 21022


  On September 23 2010 14:43 tloapc wrote:
Q: How to get motivated to play?

A: become poor



if you are really ego driven this doesn't apply but ya otherwise 100% spot on

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

YoMeR   United States. Sep 23 2010 23:21. Posts 12438

eh, i just stop being a whiney little bitch and be extremely grateful for what i've been given and DO WORK.

shit getting paid a nice hourly ain't so bad...

eZ Life. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 24 2010 05:29. Posts 6540

pick an expensive addiction boom u become a god of poker.

personally i prefer the hooookers.

seirously tho, being really poor helped me alot.

The Last Laugh.Last edit: 24/09/2010 05:39

 



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