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Jun   Croatia. Aug 21 2010 04:52. Posts 825

Hi,

As some of u read in my blog my computer got fucked up really bad by some kind of virus.
Now i'm all paranoia to play. I moved my funds but I really need to play actually...
Can I play on a different computer but thats on the same internet network?
Anyhow, my question is what would be the ultimate way to secure your computer and especially your poker account against these kind of things? I guess a long password but there most be alot of others things I can do?

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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 21 2010 05:25. Posts 14026

those dynamic password keychain things that PS has.


dUUd_   Estonia. Aug 21 2010 05:31. Posts 1840

play live poker

redsnuff: bets all in with bad preflop hand and tell me to learn poker redsnuff: senceless 

fenner   Australia. Aug 21 2010 05:31. Posts 2188

^ yeah one of those, look for pokerstars authenticator in their shop. No one can get into your account unless they steal it from you in person.


Jun   Croatia. Aug 21 2010 05:31. Posts 825

Can you use them on fulltilt?

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fenner   Australia. Aug 21 2010 05:34. Posts 2188

also a good sticky on 2+2 http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48/...security-poker-players-videos-659775/

I think the biggest thing to take away from this is to stay away warezing software if you dont know what youre doing

edit: yes, fulltilt also have it in their store under the security tab

 Last edit: 21/08/2010 05:36

Jun   Croatia. Aug 21 2010 05:35. Posts 825

Nevermind, I found the same one fulltiltstore, just dont have enough FTP fml.

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Jun   Croatia. Aug 21 2010 06:24. Posts 825

Is it safe to play on the same internet connection with a different pc?

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Fudyann   Netherlands. Aug 21 2010 06:38. Posts 704

If you turn the computer with the virus on it and any devices it could have spread to physically off (disconnect it from network/power) and you have a completely clean computer that you trust, then it should be safe to use the same connection.


Fudyann   Netherlands. Aug 21 2010 06:40. Posts 704

Oh and change your FTP password from the clean comp. (if you haven't already done so at a friends' house)

 Last edit: 21/08/2010 06:40

Snaggle   United States. Aug 21 2010 07:39. Posts 91

use this now http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,63661/description.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a38:g261:c0.000295:b354247980

and get the free version of avast


NeillyJQ   United States. Aug 21 2010 08:44. Posts 8947

after years of playing and alot of travel and using rsa's etc, i find no reason to be too scared, just log off ur comp when u shutdown ez game

Just remember you need to be god damn sure about their tendencies. -Artanis11 http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/neillyaa/ 

Jun   Croatia. Aug 21 2010 09:11. Posts 825

Just dont feel like waking up one day and see that what i've worked for for almost 3 year( my bankroll) is gone

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Fudyann   Netherlands. Aug 21 2010 10:02. Posts 704

Also; why people still use windows for anything serious amazes me.

You would never have had this problem on Linux.


Snaggle   United States. Aug 21 2010 11:13. Posts 91


  On August 21 2010 09:02 Fudyann wrote:
Also; why people still use windows for anything serious amazes me.

You would never have had this problem on Linux.



No, with linux one still can have the same problem; e.g. a relative who used only linux had his pay pal sellers account hack and all the money stolen out of it, also few poker rooms are really linux friendly.


Fox   . Aug 21 2010 12:31. Posts 3110


  On August 21 2010 09:02 Fudyann wrote:
Also; why people still use windows for anything serious amazes me.

You would never have had this problem on Linux.



really? how about the fact that everyone knows how to use windows... and everyone company that sells a computer sells it with windows?

still amazed? lol


zodion   Germany. Aug 21 2010 13:24. Posts 260

format c. or see it as a reason to buy a new computer


lucifer   Sweden. Aug 21 2010 13:26. Posts 5955

neither of those statements are true fox.



"knows how to use" might be true with a very broad definition.

On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it 

Ket    United Kingdom. Aug 21 2010 13:35. Posts 8665


  On August 21 2010 09:02 Fudyann wrote:
Also; why people still use windows for anything serious amazes me.

You would never have had this problem on Linux.


Can't viably play poker on a linux pc, would spend too much time fiddling with shitty wine trying to get stuff like hem+postgres and pokersites (especially various diff eurosites) to work with slim chances of total success, and hating life every time theres a software update in any of said things.

 Last edit: 21/08/2010 13:36

ggplz   Sweden. Aug 21 2010 13:43. Posts 16784

you dont have these problems on windows either unless you're a retard

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

ggplz   Sweden. Aug 21 2010 13:49. Posts 16784


  On August 21 2010 04:35 Jun wrote:
Nevermind, I found the same one fulltiltstore, just dont have enough FTP fml.



you can email them and purchase it for $25 but they take it out of your MGR as well...

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 21/08/2010 13:54

jchysk   United States. Aug 21 2010 15:26. Posts 435

Even if you're a complete newb when it comes to network security and computer usage, if you have an RSA security key your account should be fine. Two factor authentication is one of the most secure ways to go. I recommend it for everything where you keep money.

w00t 

Snaggle   United States. Aug 21 2010 16:28. Posts 91


  On August 21 2010 12:43 concrescence wrote:
you dont have these problems on windows either unless you're a retard



Mean; but also false, Hackers can take anyone down and windows is much easier to learn how to hack as everyone has done it. Windows also leaves too many ports open, as it loads the whole registry to allow interface with normal windows programs; linux just loads the files one is using. BTW my relative who was hacked had been working as a programmer so he was not a "complete idiot".


brybear22   United States. Aug 21 2010 17:03. Posts 142


  On August 21 2010 12:43 concrescence wrote:
you dont have these problems on windows either unless you're a retard


ggplz   Sweden. Aug 21 2010 17:05. Posts 16784

Sure, theres possibly some sick hacker out there that could target you and im not talking about recovering a password via a weak AIM secret question or something pathetic. But IMO this just doesn't happen and is complete BS.

If you're not:
- Downloading and using keygens/cracks/pirated software (movies generally dont count, but watch for suspicious file extension)/cheating software for games(maphacks,aimbots etc)/visiting porn sites and opening .exes for titties
- Clicking links or accepting files people give you without thinking about the link or files
- Submitting your credit card details to random/unsecured sites (look for SSL)
- Submitting any sensitive details to random / unsecured websites, especially a poker email address.
- Sharing your computer with kids or other incompetent people.

If you are:
- Using a unique poker email address solely for that purpose
- Using seperate passwords for all sites that matter especially email. Good way to get a strong 24+ letter password is to pick random words out of a book.
- Extremely careful about every piece of software or file that you run, getting software from reliable sources, double checking it via virustotal.com.
- Using a good firewall & virus scanner.
- Using Noscript with your browser.
- Using RSA tokens.
- Leaving your computer locked at all times AFK
- Have the most up to date software.
- Using keyscrambling software like keyscrambler.
- Aware of exactly what it is you're protecting
- Learning MMA to protect from IRL hackers like fedor.

If you're afraid your computer is comprimised you should disconnect it immediately from the internet. You can try to remove the virus/trojan/keylogger while its disconnected but you need to be sure its gone else format to be sure, takes <2-3 hrs to get everything up and running & clear mind. If you have a second safe computer log on to it and change all passwords immediately.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

vltava   United States. Aug 21 2010 17:19. Posts 1742

Kaspersky.

tooker: there is very little money in stts.  

vltava   United States. Aug 21 2010 17:23. Posts 1742

I have a small number of passwords that I use on different sites; I reuse several of them so I don't have to memorize dozens of passwords, but my poker password is unique. Hopefully yours is too.

tooker: there is very little money in stts.  

Fudyann   Netherlands. Aug 21 2010 17:50. Posts 704


  On August 21 2010 12:35 Ket wrote:
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Can't viably play poker on a linux pc, would spend too much time fiddling with shitty wine trying to get stuff like hem+postgres and pokersites (especially various diff eurosites) to work with slim chances of total success, and hating life every time theres a software update in any of said things.

I hear your point about some sites not working in wine. Pokerstars and FullTilt both work perfectly, but I must admit I haven't tried any other site so far. And I definitely have had my share of FML issues with wine.


Ket    United Kingdom. Aug 21 2010 18:38. Posts 8665


  On August 21 2010 16:23 vltava wrote:
I have a small number of passwords that I use on different sites; I reuse several of them so I don't have to memorize dozens of passwords, but my poker password is unique. Hopefully yours is too.


http://keepass.info/



  On August 21 2010 16:50 Fudyann wrote:
Show nested quote +


I hear your point about some sites not working in wine. Pokerstars and FullTilt both work perfectly, but I must admit I haven't tried any other site so far. And I definitely have had my share of FML issues with wine.


That's good to know at least. How about hem or pt3, are they supported / work under wine? Dont get me wrong im not trying to bash linux and i think its a shame a poker player playing multiple sites is forced to use windows and windows only, but thats just the way it is right now imo.


ggplz   Sweden. Aug 21 2010 19:01. Posts 16784

Keepass is good because it uses randomly generated username/passwords as well as secret question answers but if your computer crashes and you lose the list it must suck

Also its awesome they have this feature:
[1.x] Protection against clipboard monitors (other applications won't get notifications that the clipboard content has been changed).
& this:
Timed clipboard clearing: KeePass can clear the clipboard automatically some time after you've copied one of your passwords into it.

Since most trojans/keyloggers also log copy/pastes & clipboard data

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

jchysk   United States. Aug 21 2010 19:48. Posts 435

I run Linux host with a TinyXP VM dedicated purely for poker. Nothing is installed on it except for poker clients + related software. Hackers generally don't bother with computers that have security since there are so many without it. As far as poker goes though, if you have an RSA security key you should be fine. If someone gets your password or into your email they still need the key and you'll have enough time to get things sorted out.

Just make sure your computer looks like this:


w00t 

 



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