AQs TPTK in 3bet pot multiway, review? - Page 2

i know but i want ur monies

I played with this guy quite a lot and I would either

a) 4b/call pf
b) raise and commit on the flop
c) play it the same as op,

depending on gameflow and latest history between us,

now tell me if and why Im a retard

My read on him that he is pretty aggro and able to barrel some. OT: Also since he was at the tables all the time I found out that he's from a town located at Siberia :D

raise - fold / call the shove on the flop - up to your mood ... I don't see what you are trying to achieve with calls.. now that you called turn you have to call river if he'd ever bet... but you made mistake on flop by making the call.

over all it feels like you don't know what to do.

lol @ ^

eh multiway. i change my mind lol
yeah aq even suited is quite terrible to play in these spots

On August 18 2010 17:39 crazybitch wrote: raise - fold / call the shove on the flop - up to your mood ... I don't see what you are trying to achieve with calls.. now that you called turn you have to call river if he'd ever bet... but you made mistake on flop by making the call. over all it feels like you don't know what to do.

Eh??

You mean raise flop and then decide to fold/call shove depending on your mode??

Obviously if he decides to call him down its because he wants to let him barrel with air(or maybe KQ or JJ)

And also you are obviously wrong with this traditional and bad statement that after he calls turn he cant fold the river lol.

No offence mate, but I have to strongly dissagree to say the least...

Btw. what's your Czech nickname/name, do we know each other?

On August 18 2010 18:41 bohus04 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2010 17:39 crazybitch wrote: raise - fold / call the shove on the flop - up to your mood ... I don't see what you are trying to achieve with calls.. now that you called turn you have to call river if he'd ever bet... but you made mistake on flop by making the call. over all it feels like you don't know what to do. Btw. what's your Czech nickname/name, do we know each other?

dante obv

On August 18 2010 17:39 crazybitch wrote: raise - fold / call the shove on the flop - up to your mood ... I don't see what you are trying to achieve with calls.. now that you called turn you have to call river if he'd ever bet... but you made mistake on flop by making the call. over all it feels like you don't know what to do.

seems like you have a very unique approach to the game

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/830568

On August 18 2010 17:39 crazybitch wrote: raise - fold / call the shove on the flop - up to your mood ... I don't see what you are trying to achieve with calls.. now that you called turn you have to call river if he'd ever bet... but you made mistake on flop by making the call. over all it feels like you don't know what to do.

ban asap?

On August 18 2010 18:41 bohus04 wrote: Obviously if he decides to call him down its because he wants to let him barrel with air(or maybe KQ or JJ) And also you are obviously wrong with this traditional and bad statement that after he calls turn he cant fold the river lol.

first you say he calls him down to catch bluffs, then say he can fold river? Do you see where that logic goes wrong? If you call 2 streets to catch bluff, you cannot all of sudden decide to fold the river...

So as I said, raise the flop take the initiative from him as raise also helps you in decision making on later streets, b/c what happens on turn will be guided by actions on flop. Calling achieve nothing, raising helps a lot.

Poker is easy. Wtf that random swede donk comment above - ban swedes instead?. You should smoke more.

Ps. I can read souls.

On August 18 2010 18:53 bigredhoss wrote: seems like you have a very unique approach to the game http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/830568

the better you are as a poker player, more your cards will hold. ;-)

crazybitch you shouldnt try to write advice in midstakes forum when you pay micros yourself, and play micros bad at that.

Your advice in this thread shows you have no clue what you are talking about.

There is no play on the river btw, its already all in on turn.

On August 19 2010 08:36 Balzamon wrote: crazybitch you shouldnt try to write advice in midstakes forum when you pay micros yourself, and play micros bad at that. Your advice in this thread shows you have no clue what you are talking about. There is no play on the river btw, its already all in on turn.

This, and to OP, I think flatting here is fine if you have seen him squeese EP-raise before. He is probably the type of guy who 3-bet a ton in sb/bb against btn/co, which makes this stat a bit skewed, and with that in mind it is probably a fold.

My point is that HUD-statistics could be pretty unreliable unless you have them in more specific terms. Someone who 3 bets 15 % might only 3-bet UTGr with 4 % from blinds for example.

On August 19 2010 04:20 crazybitch wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2010 18:53 bigredhoss wrote: seems like you have a very unique approach to the game http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/830568 the better you are as a poker player, more your cards will hold. ;-)

"first I'm like... nice hand I raise... then I'm like wtf dude wtf, I reraise... then more like,..oh well this is fucked up already,...I call.
Flop is more like,... Lets close my eyes and pray for runner runner suckout even tho' it's gay.."

whoa that's a lot of replies...

there are no draws. I think you can fold turn vs a standard hudbotting reg.

The problem with this hand stems from your perception of his preflop 3bet range. He has 3 bet from the blinds a few times and it gives his 3 bet % 11 % over 320 hands... so what? That information doesn't tell us the whole story here.

That 11% is going to be a far different number when he is squeezing an utg+1 from the blinds. It could be wider than 11% based on game flow, or more likely it could be ridiculously narrow. You have to know your player here.

And yeah if you call preflop than its pretty lol get it in one way or another with this flop. If you feel dirty about getting it in with this flop then please realize that your preflop call was wrong.

On August 19 2010 04:15 crazybitch wrote: Show nested quote + On August 18 2010 18:41 bohus04 wrote: Obviously if he decides to call him down its because he wants to let him barrel with air(or maybe KQ or JJ) And also you are obviously wrong with this traditional and bad statement that after he calls turn he cant fold the river lol. first you say he calls him down to catch bluffs, then say he can fold river? Do you see where that logic goes wrong? If you call 2 streets to catch bluff, you cannot all of sudden decide to fold the river... So as I said, raise the flop take the initiative from him as raise also helps you in decision making on later streets, b/c what happens on turn will be guided by actions on flop. Calling achieve nothing, raising helps a lot.

Sorry but you didint get it at all Just one small hint, say you have a player who might fire 2 barrels but never 3, you still cannot fold the river right? (Also note that my comment about calling turn/fold river was generaly speaking not to the actual hand...)

And raising yeah, so you will raise him to +- $60 and then decide... well LOL

well you cant fold the river when u r all in on the turn