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dude...Arnold's role took a day at most to shoot...

im pretty fucken jealous of california, there are so many god damn songs about their damn state.

damn hippies

California's budget is eternally fucked b/c the state workers' pensions are ridiculous. From what I understand, it goes something like this.

*Retire at age 50.
*Pension nearly the size of last paycheck is guaranteed until death.

This "system" was approved back when California had a super-strong economy. Democrats ran the state, and having a huge budget surplus, they decided to balance it to zero by giving government workers the terms above + ridiculous wage increases.

This is how bad the government worker situation is in California (pretty sure these instances are of pple who have worked for many years and hence have bloated salaries, but that's just an additional issue that needs to be fixed).

A garbage truck driver in San Francisco makes $150,000.
A prison nurse in SoCal made $200,000 (more than the Warden) b/c of overtime.
Firefighters make $150,000. (I think they deserve to be paid well, but not this much...)
Govt workers' wages cannot be lowered. Any pay decreases must be negotiated with the union (who of course would never budge).

(nmeanwhile, a PHD engineer with 20 years industry experience gets paid about $100,000 in SV)

As more people reach retirement age, the pension payments will continue to increase in the coming years. Arnold has actually been trying to fix this for quite some time now, but the Democratic house(?) has rejected any such reforms. The next governor will either be Brown or Whitman, who are both rather terrible.

The status quo will continue I am sure, and California will most likely default within the next 10 years. The state is being run like General Motors and Japan Air Lines, both of which filed for bankruptcy due to overpaying its workers and having a bloated pension system.

btw the proposed solution from the "state" is a flat 1% income tax increase on all residents of California.

Yes, don't fix the broken system, but instead do everything you can to protect the rotten egg...

I'm proud to be American and proud to be from California, but the development of recent years really makes me sick.

This state (and this country for that matter) has grown by virtue of risk takers and creators of new value.

Yet now we've created a system where people who choose to take no risk and create zero additional value in the world (state workers) are compensated better than actual professionals with actual responsibilities.

lol I watched the expendables yesterday and arnold appears for like 2 minutes in one scene and that's it
fucking horrible movie btw

stallone with a pistol and staham with a knife killed a small army of 20 soldiers without even getting punched ROFL

On August 15 2010 08:54 tutz_x wrote: lol I watched the expendables yesterday and arnold appears for like 2 minutes in one scene and that's it fucking horrible movie btw stallone with a pistol and staham with a knife killed a small army of 20 soldiers without even getting punched ROFL

But that's the kind of action it's supposed to be, hero action movie filled with hyperboles, just like the 80's and 90's. Just how the latest Indiana Jones movie was in terms of an adventure movie with all of the crazy stunts. Expendables was meant for the older generation that's all .

On August 15 2010 00:28 LikeASet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2010 00:20 nolan wrote: california is easily the worst state in the union and the reason most of you non-usa residents get a negative reception toward the US (as most media is california-based and when people talk about "americanization" with regard to culture and globalization they almost always mean "californication" which is also a dope jam by red hot chili peppers. california raelly needs to just go out to sea and be gone. california is not in line with the rest of the US but yet holds huge influence. fuck california. Why you do some random rant against California? California got some of the best colleges in the U.S. , and Cali is the one developing many of the cpu/energy technologies from Silicon Valley. We're also one of the most diverse states and we got legalized gambling and Disneyland ! .

cuz hes one of them east coast fucks..



and BTW to the OP.. most actors only spend 2-6 months on a set of a movie.. very rare they would spend 1 year doing shoots..

On August 15 2010 11:56 milkman wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2010 00:28 LikeASet wrote:   On August 15 2010 00:20 nolan wrote: california is easily the worst state in the union and the reason most of you non-usa residents get a negative reception toward the US (as most media is california-based and when people talk about "americanization" with regard to culture and globalization they almost always mean "californication" which is also a dope jam by red hot chili peppers. california raelly needs to just go out to sea and be gone. california is not in line with the rest of the US but yet holds huge influence. fuck california. Why you do some random rant against California? California got some of the best colleges in the U.S. , and Cali is the one developing many of the cpu/energy technologies from Silicon Valley. We're also one of the most diverse states and we got legalized gambling and Disneyland ! . cuz hes one of them east coast fucks.. and BTW to the OP.. most actors only spend 2-6 months on a set of a movie.. very rare they would spend 1 year doing shoots..

a governor making a fucking movie is BEYOND unacceptable, what in the fuck.

your from mexico, you can't speak about anything Government related... you lose

On August 15 2010 13:29 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2010 11:56 milkman wrote:   On August 15 2010 00:28 LikeASet wrote:   On August 15 2010 00:20 nolan wrote: california is easily the worst state in the union and the reason most of you non-usa residents get a negative reception toward the US (as most media is california-based and when people talk about "americanization" with regard to culture and globalization they almost always mean "californication" which is also a dope jam by red hot chili peppers. california raelly needs to just go out to sea and be gone. california is not in line with the rest of the US but yet holds huge influence. fuck california. Why you do some random rant against California? California got some of the best colleges in the U.S. , and Cali is the one developing many of the cpu/energy technologies from Silicon Valley. We're also one of the most diverse states and we got legalized gambling and Disneyland ! . cuz hes one of them east coast fucks.. and BTW to the OP.. most actors only spend 2-6 months on a set of a movie.. very rare they would spend 1 year doing shoots.. a governor making a fucking movie is BEYOND unacceptable, what in the fuck.

Why?

I'd rather see a politician using his vacation time to support one of his state's industries than seeing them go golfing or dicking around in Crawford, Texas or Martha's Vineyard like our last 3 presidents.

On August 15 2010 13:29 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2010 11:56 milkman wrote:   On August 15 2010 00:28 LikeASet wrote:   On August 15 2010 00:20 nolan wrote: california is easily the worst state in the union and the reason most of you non-usa residents get a negative reception toward the US (as most media is california-based and when people talk about "americanization" with regard to culture and globalization they almost always mean "californication" which is also a dope jam by red hot chili peppers. california raelly needs to just go out to sea and be gone. california is not in line with the rest of the US but yet holds huge influence. fuck california. Why you do some random rant against California? California got some of the best colleges in the U.S. , and Cali is the one developing many of the cpu/energy technologies from Silicon Valley. We're also one of the most diverse states and we got legalized gambling and Disneyland ! . cuz hes one of them east coast fucks.. and BTW to the OP.. most actors only spend 2-6 months on a set of a movie.. very rare they would spend 1 year doing shoots.. What in the fuck, a governator making a fucking movie is BEYOND acceptable.

On August 15 2010 13:29 Baal wrote: a governor making a fucking movie is BEYOND unacceptable, what in the fuck.

i don't see why not. his role was so small that it could be done in less than a day. it doesn't effect how he runs his office, which he isn't paid for...

On August 15 2010 20:41 disCord wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2010 13:29 Baal wrote: a governor making a fucking movie is BEYOND unacceptable, what in the fuck. i don't see why not. his role was so small that it could be done in less than a day. it doesn't effect how he runs his office, which he isn't paid for...

Pretty sure he is paid for running his office.
also i agree he could have filmed that in a day, i don't see how this would affect his job at all.

etherone he is paid.. and its 1$ a year

The scene in question took 6 hours to shoot.

He was voted because of one thing and one thing only:
BECAUSE HE'S A MOVIE STAR....

Why are you guys going batshit crazy that he spent a day doing what he was voted because of?

On August 15 2010 04:39 Uptown wrote: California's budget is eternally fucked b/c the state workers' pensions are ridiculous. From what I understand, it goes something like this. *Retire at age 50. *Pension nearly the size of last paycheck is guaranteed until death. This "system" was approved back when California had a super-strong economy. Democrats ran the state, and having a huge budget surplus, they decided to balance it to zero by giving government workers the terms above + ridiculous wage increases. This is how bad the government worker situation is in California (pretty sure these instances are of pple who have worked for many years and hence have bloated salaries, but that's just an additional issue that needs to be fixed). A garbage truck driver in San Francisco makes $150,000. A prison nurse in SoCal made $200,000 (more than the Warden) b/c of overtime. Firefighters make $150,000. (I think they deserve to be paid well, but not this much...) Govt workers' wages cannot be lowered. Any pay decreases must be negotiated with the union (who of course would never budge). (nmeanwhile, a PHD engineer with 20 years industry experience gets paid about $100,000 in SV) As more people reach retirement age, the pension payments will continue to increase in the coming years. Arnold has actually been trying to fix this for quite some time now, but the Democratic house(?) has rejected any such reforms. The next governor will either be Brown or Whitman, who are both rather terrible. The status quo will continue I am sure, and California will most likely default within the next 10 years. The state is being run like General Motors and Japan Air Lines, both of which filed for bankruptcy due to overpaying its workers and having a bloated pension system.

Actually i live in california, and do tons of work for the state government. and yes, you are almost exactly correct about how these things work. The payrates you described are rare cases, but yes they do happen and people do work on quite inflated salaries.