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i like slow playing and turning my hand into a bluff here if i think he has QQ+

On August 11 2010 10:57 vltava wrote: Well AA *could* call in three seconds, since obviously he had AA or this wouldn't be a thread, but I still think it's a ship. Even if his range is QQ-AA this is +EV since it's not just 1:1 on his money, and say he has something else 10% of the time, then he's a solid favorite.

Yea I guess, but isn't that such a small edge that I should pass it up anyway considering how the field sucks ass?

I don't think it's a really small edge with the shit ton of dead money that's in the pot, plus the fact that AK has got to be part of his range a significant percentage of the time, and whether he calls or folds AK to a shove, you're happy. But if you think the field is THAT soft, you're better qualified to make that judgment than I.

can't he have something like TT here?

he is shoving ak/qq 100% of the time imo but i wouldnt fold kk just because i have kk and he can be doing sth stupid

as far as i know that dutch guy is a big nit

like unbelievable

Seriously, I think this hand plays itself.. Judging by the stacks and how deep we are, I guess it's possible to fold, but I ship it in every time anyway just because they can have AK/QQ and maybe JJ if they're bad as often as they have AA. Don't overthink it, KK is too good to fold imo.

If he had shoved I'd obviously snap call but there's no way amyone has AK here enough to consider that.

What about card removal? Does the Dutch pro have AK often enough that it affects card combinations for the cold-caller's range? I'm inclined to think so.

LOL call in 3 seconds.

minraise, call all in. if you min raise and he calls, just insta ship any flop.

and nervous guy has 99-JJ , AJ or AQ, right?

instaccs a 3b with no play. this looks like aces. what the hell else could it be but aces?

like, if he has AK he would prolly take on a defeated air and jackoff for 5 minutes and then fold.

if he has QQ he has to think. nobody snap coldcalls QQ without alot of foresight and, more to the point, to do so would still be monumentally stupid in the vast majority of cases. you just would have seen something in him to indicate that level of intelligence, it's impossible to not see such a thing. with QQ and foresight and anticipation, it's still really difficult to not take 30 seconds here. QQ here is probably a 2 minute decision for nearly all players.

it's not that he coldcalled. it's that he did it in 3 seconds. this motherfucker didn't even look at you or the 3bettor. like, a total drooler with a messy stack and no concept of anything and no respect for you or the other guy might do that with QQ.

he is new. he is trappy post, so why can't he be trappy pre? has AA, doesn't care what anyone else has, instacalls because he doesn't want people to be looking at him. it looks different from anything else he's ever done pre cuz like it's hard to be dealt AA.

what is the intent behind the coldcall? he's a person of average to above-average intelligence. i think he's doing it so that he doesn't draw attention to himself.

has a good amount of chips and is happy. raise, reraise. AA. instaccs to mix it up.

maybe you can call and resolve to call one and only one tiny bet but i like folding. i started thinking about this and was like, LOL aces, 60%? the more that i think about it i go to like, 70%, 80% and now i'm like, that's enough. fold it face up.

motherfucker called in 3 seconds.

or you could just ship your 80x cuz it's kings and kings are sposed to ship.

call and do what? jam into minimum 60% aces? fuck that shit. fold.