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TenBagger   United States. Jul 17 2010 18:30. Posts 2018 | | |
Yet another fantasy season is coming up. Last year's LP fantasy football league had Nero take down the title. Hopefully, we can get a full 12 teams this year for a deeper, more interesting league. How to join:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.c...nprivateleague_league_select?.scrumb=
League ID#: 142659
League Name: Liquidpoker
Password: lp
Draft Type: Live Standard Draft
Draft Time: Tue Aug 24 9:00pm EDT [ Add to My Calendar ]
Couple issues that I would like to address. First is the auction/straight draft issue. I've tried the yahoo auction software for baseball and I must say that I was very impressed. The software is excellent and the auction will take only slightly longer, prob less than an hour longer than a straight draft. The pros of auctions are that it allows you to have more control over your team since you have the ability to acquire every player rather than being limited to only the players that are available to you when it's your turn to pick. However, straight drafts are definitely more popular and it is much easier for novices. I'm fine with both formats and we will go with a majority vote.
Second issue is the 1 or 2 QB. I've played in both and I strongly believe the 2QB format is a much superior system for leagues with 12 or fewer teams. With 1 QB and 12 teams, that means only 1/3rd of the starting QBs in the NFL start for a fantasy team on any given sunday. It greatly devalues what is generally accepted as the most important position in football. Last year, since we only had 8 teams, there was no choice but to go with 2 QBs. However, even if we get a full 12 team league this year, I believe we should still go with a 2 QB format but I will also leave this up to vote.
Third issue is that I think it would be a good idea to slightly increase the value of yardage. Last year, I set the scoring for 8 passing/rushing yards per point as opposed to the standard 10 yards per point. The idea behind this is that a goal line RB who gets 2 carries, 2 rushing yards and 2 TDs should not worth more than a RB that gets 30 touches and 110 yards but no TDs. I propose that we slightly increase the value of yardage to 15 passing yards per point and 7 rushing/rec yards per point. I also propose that we increase the milestone bonuses to 3 points for 100 yards, 4 points for 150 and 5 points for 200.
Final issue is the buyin. We have had a hard time filling the league in the past and we went with a small $100 buyin last year. I'd personally prefer to make it a $200 buyin so that the first prize becomes 4 digits and is actually something worth playing for. I will also leave this to a league vote.
Everyone interested in the league should comment on their preferences to the issues mentioned above. Also, everyone should make sure the draft time Tue Aug 24 9:00pm EDT works for you. Yahoo draft times get filled quickly and last minute changes might not be available. Therefore, please check your schedules and do your best to commit to a time. If the above time does not work for you, please let me know ASAP and I will change it.
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Rush   United States. Jul 19 2010 01:30. Posts 2299 | | |
Auction. AUCTION.
I agree on the increase in value of yardage and for the bonuses.
Buy-in wise I don't care.
And 2 QBs is fine.
Oh and AUCTION! |
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TenBagger   United States. Jul 25 2010 14:45. Posts 2018 | | |
season is only a little over a month away. If I don't get more interest from LPers soon, I will have to seek out 2p2ers to fill out the league. |
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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 03 2010 03:18. Posts 6796 | | |
sign up 100$ or 200$ buy in fine with me |
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Pacifist   Israel. Aug 07 2010 14:15. Posts 1824 | | | |
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TripSearchin   United States. Aug 09 2010 14:00. Posts 1058 | | | |
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Aug 09 2010 16:10. Posts 159 | | |
I'm interested for $100 buyin, and I'd prefer one QB but obviously I'm open to what the league prefers.
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4TM   United States. Aug 09 2010 16:40. Posts 712 | | |
I'm interested. Don't care what buy in is |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 09 2010 16:41. Posts 10197 | | |
i'm in
my vote is for the live draft and 2 QB's |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 11 2010 15:13. Posts 2018 | | |
sweetbread and adam, would you guys play if it were a $200 buyin? I'd much rather have it $200 so that 1st place payout is $1K+.
We have 9 interested so far so that leaves 3 spots open.
Everyone, please double check that Draft Time: Tue Aug 24 9:00pm EDT works for you. If not, please let me know ASAP. |
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YouGoTGoT   United States. Aug 11 2010 17:37. Posts 1118 | | |
Im in for whatever, prefer 100 cuz i got other leagues, but 200 is OK |
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4TM   United States. Aug 11 2010 17:57. Posts 712 | | | |
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Aug 12 2010 07:43. Posts 159 | | |
fuck it, i'll gamble. $200 is okay
Any chance of moving the draft time one hour? (I am in Europe, six hours ahead of US Eastern time). 2am is slightly more palatable than 3am :D If not, no worries.
TenBagger, should we go ahead and register via Yahoo?
Thanks,
SB
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Rush   United States. Aug 12 2010 16:53. Posts 2299 | | |
Man why does everyone hate on Auction? If you haven't tried it yet, I think you'll be hooked once you start using it. It's just so much less based on luck and much less boring. |
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NighTLesS15   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:37. Posts 241 | | |
Signed up.
Draft Either (just would like to know which draft style a few days prior)
2 QB.
200$
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BigRed0000   United States. Aug 12 2010 17:54. Posts 3554 | | |
Interested, either buy-in is fine. Let's doooooooooooooo it.
2 QB imo. |
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4TM   United States. Aug 13 2010 02:59. Posts 712 | | | |
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Pacifist   Israel. Aug 14 2010 19:30. Posts 1824 | | |
Is it possible at all to do the draft on a weekend? I'm really busy on weekdays with work. |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 19 2010 18:34. Posts 4013 | | |
hey just saw this and joined
id prefer reg style instead of auction. Im sure I would liek auction better, just have never done one before and would rather do this one reg style |
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BigRed0000   United States. Aug 19 2010 20:11. Posts 3554 | | |
joined league, name is "Nice2MeetUMelStein". can send on ftp what did we agree on? |
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4TM   United States. Aug 19 2010 21:56. Posts 712 | | |
Ya I can send on FTP as well just need to know how much we decided on... |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 19 2010 23:00. Posts 4013 | | |
big red u go down....downtown |
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Pacifist   Israel. Aug 21 2010 13:18. Posts 1824 | | |
So is the draft set for Tuesday? Or can we move it to the weekend? |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 21 2010 13:57. Posts 2018 | | |
sorry for the late response, I've been really busy this week.
pacifist, I think the majority of people have a lot of things going on in the weekend and would prefer to do it on a weekday. If tuesday doesn't work for you, I can move it to another weekday but at least for me personally, it will be really hard for me to do it on a weekend.
As for the buyin, it seems as though most are fine with a $200 buyin. Everyone can send it to me on PS or FTP, TenBagger (Brooklyn) on both. I need to get the buyin before the draft or at the very least get in touch with me so that we can work something out. As always, everyone can have confidence that the prize pool will be personally guaranteed by me.
It seems as though the majority of the participants prefer a draft so that is what we will go with. Sorry rush, I prefer an auction as well but we need to go with the majority here. Also, football is luckboxing anyway so adding a little more variance to it won't make a huge difference.
Everyone should double check the scoring system and make the proper adjustments. Remember that we are going with a modified PPR where you get a half point per reception. We are also placing a slightly bigger emphasis on yardage so when compared to "standard" leagues, touchdowns are slightly devalued. We will also go with 2 QBs on the starting roster.
We have 2 more open slots so if you are interested in playing, feel free to sign up. Only a few days away from the draft so everyone mark their calenders! |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 21 2010 16:18. Posts 10197 | | |
i just tried signing up and it says the league is full |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 21 2010 16:19. Posts 2018 | | |
| | On August 21 2010 15:18 TimDawg wrote:
i just tried signing up and it says the league is full |
oops, i set it for 10 teams max by mistake. its fixed now so you should be able to join |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 21 2010 16:22. Posts 10197 | | | |
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Rush   United States. Aug 21 2010 18:43. Posts 2299 | | |
Rawr, If I get the #1 pick all will be forgiven! |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 21 2010 18:59. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On August 21 2010 17:43 Rush wrote:
Rawr, If I get the #1 pick all will be forgiven! |
that's cool
gimme chris johnson |
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Pacifist   Israel. Aug 21 2010 21:18. Posts 1824 | | | |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 22 2010 12:49. Posts 2018 | | |
we need 1 more team to make it an even 12 teams. |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 23 2010 17:21. Posts 2018 | | |
reminder to all, draft is tomorrow night! |
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Rush   United States. Aug 23 2010 21:12. Posts 2299 | | | |
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Aug 24 2010 03:45. Posts 159 | | |
TenBagger,
Just a friendly reminder that with an odd number of teams, we won't be able to draft. I return from holiday tonight and will take care of the transfer at that time. |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 09:29. Posts 2018 | | |
| | On August 24 2010 02:45 sweetbread wrote:
TenBagger,
Just a friendly reminder that with an odd number of teams, we won't be able to draft. I return from holiday tonight and will take care of the transfer at that time. |
yeah, I'm working on getting one more for the draft. shouldn't be a problem.
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 11:31. Posts 2018 | | |
just a heads up to everyone about the slight scoring differences in this league from "standard" leagues.
2 QB
In a "standard" 1 QB, 12 team league, the value of QBs are greatly diminished. The top tier of QBs still get selected relatively early but after the top 5 or so, the value of QBs drops off a cliff. The reason for this is because in a 1 QB, 12 team league, there are only 12 staring QBs in any given week. The marginal difference of 7th best QB and the 12th best QB is not very significant. A QB like Matt Ryan or Eli Manning is not worth much because there will be guys with similar upside such as Stafford or Flacco available near the end of the draft.
However, in a 2 QB, 12 team league, 24 QBs start on any given week. Scrubs like Freeman and Garrard that would definitely be free agents in a 1 QB league will be in a starting lineup in a 2 QB league. Add in injuries and the fact that some teams will hoard reseve QBs and that means that on certain off weeks, it might be a challenge just to find a starting QB to put in your lineup. So while the QB position in a 1 QB league is a plentiful, replaceable commodity, in a 2 QB league, it is a scarce resource. This bumps up the value of all QBs, especially the second tier of QBs.
PPR and yardage
Our league has a 1/2 point per reception scoring system. That means that a receiver with 12 catches in a game will have the equivalent of an extra touchdown worth of value. When compared to non PPR leagues, wide receivers and running backs that catch a lot of balls get a slight bump up. Yardage is also given a 25% increase in value when compared to the "standard" scoring format. This will lead to slightly less variance and players that touch the ball more frequently will be slightly more valuable while situational goal line players that get TDs but not many touches are slightly less valuable. |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 11:40. Posts 2018 | | |
also, to the few people that have yet to ship the buyin AND have not made concrete arrangements with me yet:
at the very least send me a pm and tell me that you will be at the draft and when you plan on getting me the buyin. The reason for this is that yahoo locks in the rosters 30 minutes before the start of the draft and no teams can be added or removed. If someone forgets about the draft tonight and they get stuck with a shitty autodraft team, chances are that they will not want to pay for that team and I'll be stuck footing the buyin. that is a situation that has happened frequently in the past and I'd like to avoid that at all costs. If I don't hear from you by 8pm EST tonight, I'm gonna have to go on the assumption that you will not be attending the draft. I can't assume that you will be paying for a shitty autodraft team so I will have to kick your team and find a replacement. |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 24 2010 12:07. Posts 4013 | | |
| | On August 24 2010 10:40 TenBagger wrote:
also, to the few people that have yet to ship the buyin AND have not made concrete arrangements with me yet:
at the very least send me a pm and tell me that you will be at the draft and when you plan on getting me the buyin. The reason for this is that yahoo locks in the rosters 30 minutes before the start of the draft and no teams can be added or removed. If someone forgets about the draft tonight and they get stuck with a shitty autodraft team, chances are that they will not want to pay for that team and I'll be stuck footing the buyin. that is a situation that has happened frequently in the past and I'd like to avoid that at all costs. If I don't hear from you by 8pm EST tonight, I'm gonna have to go on the assumption that you will not be attending the draft. I can't assume that you will be paying for a shitty autodraft team so I will have to kick your team and find a replacement. |
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also screws people up who would like to know how many teams are in it for planning their strategy u bastards =) |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 24 2010 12:18. Posts 10197 | | |
i'll never tell you nothin you sheisty canuck |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 16:34. Posts 2018 | | | |
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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 24 2010 17:05. Posts 6796 | | |
thanks tenbagger for reminder i would have forgotten |
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BigRed0000   United States. Aug 24 2010 18:08. Posts 3554 | | |
i messed up and lost my old yahoo id/pw, made a new one. can you replae it real quick tb? |
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BigRed0000   United States. Aug 24 2010 18:12. Posts 3554 | | |
you an delete "nice2meetu2melstein" i'm now "bigred0000" in the league.. hope this didn't mess anything up, hsoudl be ok since draft isn't for another cpl hrs. |
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lostaccount   Canada. Aug 24 2010 19:44. Posts 6796 | | |
alright sent you 200$ on ps confirm |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 20:21. Posts 2018 | | |
| | On August 24 2010 18:44 lostaccount wrote:
alright sent you 200$ on ps confirm |
confirmed |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 20:22. Posts 2018 | | |
draft room opening in 10 minutes |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 24 2010 20:30. Posts 2018 | | |
since we have a full 12 teams, bench slot has been reduced by by 1 to 6 and the flex W/R/T slot is now 1 instead of 2. |
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BigRed0000   United States. Aug 24 2010 20:31. Posts 3554 | | |
TB what name on FTP do i send to? |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 24 2010 21:21. Posts 10197 | | |
I'll send tonight after draft |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 24 2010 21:47. Posts 10197 | | |
wtf why did it autoselect me 2 guys that were top 15 and then another guy who was top 50 something avg pick
and how do you chat? i don't see a box anywhere |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 24 2010 21:56. Posts 10197 | | | |
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Rush   United States. Aug 24 2010 23:40. Posts 2299 | | |
HAHAHAHA TimDawg better win with his auto pick team hahahaha |
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TimDawg   United States. Aug 25 2010 00:31. Posts 10197 | | |
I could've gotten Peyton manning and Larry fitz instead
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 25 2010 10:16. Posts 2018 | | |
any degens want more action? I'll take sidebets, will also bet on each individual game except for week 8 when half my team has a bye. |
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TenBagger   United States. Aug 25 2010 10:16. Posts 2018 | | |
also, read up on the commish notes. I cover the payouts and the trade policy there. |
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NerO   United States. Aug 25 2010 12:26. Posts 2402 | | |
I'm definately lookin to make a few trades anyone interested in talking trade pm me w/ some contact info. |
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Pacifist   Israel. Aug 26 2010 02:24. Posts 1824 | | |
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NerO   United States. Aug 26 2010 13:18. Posts 2402 | | |
I am 'NerO' in the league lol |
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NerO   United States. Sep 06 2010 11:58. Posts 2402 | | |
Theres some teams that are in dire need of a QB, I got 5 starting QBs and need a running back, anyone interested in making a deal for a starting RB? |
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Sep 06 2010 12:24. Posts 159 | | |
I'm interested! But stop trying to hijack me 
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TimDawg   United States. Sep 06 2010 14:00. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On September 06 2010 10:58 NerO wrote:
Theres some teams that are in dire need of a QB, I got 5 starting QBs and need a running back, anyone interested in making a deal for a starting RB? |
I'd fall into this boat I think. Check out my team and make an offer if u see something u like |
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NerO   United States. Sep 06 2010 14:44. Posts 2402 | | |
| | On September 06 2010 11:24 sweetbread wrote:
I'm interested! But stop trying to hijack me 
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whats ur msn? I'm sorry i feel i have 3 top 10 quarterbacks come playoff time so I hold them fairly high, plus the league value of QBs is sooo high I'm not gunna trade starting QBs cheap. |
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NerO   United States. Sep 06 2010 14:45. Posts 2402 | | |
| | On September 06 2010 13:00 TimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 10:58 NerO wrote:
Theres some teams that are in dire need of a QB, I got 5 starting QBs and need a running back, anyone interested in making a deal for a starting RB? |
I'd fall into this boat I think. Check out my team and make an offer if u see something u like
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Sep 06 2010 15:40. Posts 159 | | |
| | On September 06 2010 13:44 NerO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 11:24 sweetbread wrote:
I'm interested! But stop trying to hijack me 
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whats ur msn? I'm sorry i feel i have 3 top 10 quarterbacks come playoff time so I hold them fairly high, plus the league value of QBs is sooo high I'm not gunna trade starting QBs cheap.
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Rush   United States. Sep 06 2010 18:12. Posts 2299 | | |
You have 2 top 10 QBs and 2 shitty QBs and 1 medicore/good QB with the upside of top 10.....I dunno about your asking price but w/e |
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sweetbread   Czech Republic. Dec 26 2010 18:56. Posts 159 | | |
woot
gg everyone 
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