Inception (Spoilerish)

Fucking amazing movie and wanting to get a view of what lp thinks.


Poll: Does the top begin to fall over?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

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it was clearly slowing down IMO

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spoilers are fcuking useless. i cant help but open them

On July 16 2010 21:07 whamm! wrote: spoilers are fcuking useless. i cant help but open them

the movie is made and produced by Christopher Nolan so no wonder its so amazing the guy makes some sick movies

i dont want to vote because i want to watch the movie again. i seemed to miss a lot of what you pointed out in your reasoning, so im unsure of myself.

i liked the movie although it did not meet my expectations
was expecting a sick ending which was never delivered.
all in all it was a good action movie.
i read something prior which defined it as the matrix meets memento, they were right about the matrix part but its not even close to memento.

My mind is still full of fuck...

@ Red9, but his children TURNED around so it wasn't a memory because every time they showed the kids in that position, their backs were always turned to him in the dream world.

I need to watch it again to understand it more, I feel I missed so many subtle shit in the movie I can't really appreciate it for what it is.

By the way...

yeah it is def starting to fall over imo

There was no reason for the spinning top ending, so unecessary. Ending reminds me of the Shutter Island ending where it sort of leaves the audience to imagine what the ending really is. The gravity changing fight scenes where fucking sick, better than the Matrix shit imo.

I really want to buy pin stripe suits and slick my hair back now .

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On July 17 2010 02:00 LikeASet wrote: There was no reason for the spinning top ending, so unecessary. Ending reminds me of the Shutter Island ending where it sort of leaves the audience to imagine what the ending really is. The gravity changing fight scenes where fucking sick, better than the Matrix shit imo. I really want to buy pin stripe suits and slick my hair back now .

hate to burst your bubble but the ending of shutter island was VERY cut-and-dry. he was a patient at shutter island and the whole movie was in his mind. nothing to it

I have never been so mindfucked in my entire life.

On July 17 2010 04:58 hubmaster wrote: I have never been so mindfucked in my entire life.

qft

I think if he was dreaming, the movie would have given some past history of each of the other characters to allow the possibily that each of the other characters can be projections.

But, I don't get how the main char and his wife grew old together in the past dream, and then got to the point where they both commited suicide on the train tracks to wake up. Unless when they grew old together, that's when he died in the 50yr+ dream and then got his brain stuck in limbo and so forth.

I think they are talking about whether or not he actually wakes up in the end. Not if his mind got stuck in limbo in the 50yr long dream

i thought the ending was perfect for what the movie was, especially because it really brought to the forefront how important the top was for the whole movie.
i'd have to see it again to see if there actually is a lot of evidence the whole thing was taking place in his mind, but the first thing that struck me was how weird the chase scene was in mumbai (or wherever) like where he almost gets stuck between two walls then saito appears out of nowhere. im not sure why they would have actually went ahead and shown fisher what was behind the steel doors when cobb already went a level deeper though
all in all, it was an amazing movie with some really slick action scenes and a really clever plot

THis movie levelled the shit out of me

DUDE YOU GUYS! THEY WENT TO THE FOURTH FUCKING LEVEL! I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE OMFG

On July 17 2010 16:30 JonnyCosMo wrote: DUDE YOU GUYS! THEY WENT TO THE FOURTH FUCKING LEVEL! I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE OMFG

That's why you should have folded the TT in the ME and maybe you'd still be in it.

Yeah.

On July 17 2010 13:47 KeanuReaver wrote: i thought the ending was perfect for what the movie was, especially because it really brought to the forefront how important the top was for the whole movie. i'd have to see it again to see if there actually is a lot of evidence the whole thing was taking place in his mind, but the first thing that struck me was how weird the chase scene was in mumbai (or wherever) like where he almost gets stuck between two walls then saito appears out of nowhere. im not sure why they would have actually went ahead and shown fisher what was behind the steel doors when cobb already went a level deeper though all in all, it was an amazing movie with some really slick action scenes and a really clever plot

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i enjoyed it but i cant help feeling like its terribly overhyped =(

On July 17 2010 20:00 Loco wrote: i enjoyed it but i cant help feeling like its terribly overhyped =(

+1 It was ok

Can't help but wonder what this movie would do to somebody on shrooms.

On July 17 2010 16:30 JonnyCosMo wrote: DUDE YOU GUYS! THEY WENT TO THE FOURTH FUCKING LEVEL! I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE OMFG

movie blew, but that doesnt seem to be the consensus around me...

most well executed movie I have seen in a long time, and most original since matrix/memento/primer/whatever you want to compare it to. As for the ending, I think that was just Chris Nolan fucking with the audience for laughs. Afterall you see the dreidal begin to destabilize before the camera cuts. Only reason he would even cut the camera like that is to laugh at the ultimate mind fuck... which come to think of it isnt really all that of a mind fuck, I mean afterall from the first 10 minutes of the movie you should pretty much have already asked yourself "what if everything is already a dream". Great movie though.

best movie ever

i dunno but everytime leo dicaprio is in a movie, i still view him as that little kid in that de niro movie, i mean, he looks almost exactly the same lol

are you guys seriously watching this in theatres? im failing at finding any way to watch online

ps, how can watch-movies etc etc go down? bring it backkkkkkkkkkk

On July 18 2010 09:38 CrownRoyal wrote: im failing

indeed

just pay the 10 bucks and go see the damn movie wtf

i don't even know how someone can watch a camrip anyway... now a camrip stream that must be the most tilting shit ever wtf son?

well id pay $10 to watch it here at the comfort of my home but I dont really wanna go watch it alone and there's like no one who i would want to go with

also, REALLY? you never download movies or music that you didnt pay for? lol don't joke with me guy

CrownRoyal = no friends.

=(.

double =(.

I dont really like going to the theater anymore myself, I'll wait to watch something on bluray via netflix before I go and see it. But a cool little theater opened up nearby called cinnebar, where they serve restaurant quality food to you in the movie while you watch. The seating arrangement has been rebuilt to put tables in front of the bucket seats. Watched inecption last night with a pitcher of beer and garlic chicken pizza in front of me. The crowd this theater tends to attract is more my style too, no rowdy kids or teenagers annoying me, mostly adults who also want to kick back. It feels very homey which I like. Although seeing a movie now costs me a loltastic $70 instead of $25.

On July 18 2010 09:48 CrownRoyal wrote: well id pay $10 to watch it here at the comfort of my home but I dont really wanna go watch it alone and there's like no one who i would want to go with also, REALLY? you never download movies or music that you didnt pay for? lol don't joke with me guy

hell ya nigga i do, but not while they still playin' up in da cinemas??? wats wrong with u son! i couldn't stand a shitty fucking camrip for a good movie. it's like watching a damn movie on your iphone.

On July 18 2010 16:05 TheHuHu3 wrote: CrownRoyal = no friends. =(.

that isn't the case but i'm not gonna call my friend and offer to byu him lunch if he goes and watches a movie with me... thats gay

if i take a girl it's a massively unneccesary powerplay in my position and I'll just have to wait til I can take the person that I want to take on another day but i really want to see this movie soon because it's in the genre of movies that are my favorite

you can't find one person to watch inception with you?

WOW

Just watched Inception for the second time in IMAX. This time around I came into the movie thinking the following: What if Cobb was dreaming all along.

The movie director gave a lot of really small hints that this was the case. Here is a list of all the evidence that leads me to believe that Cobb was stuck in limbo that entire movie:

1. His totem, the top. It's not his, it was originally Mal's totem. Why does Cobb not have his own totem? They mention that the concept of a totem was Mal's idea.
2. Cobb warns his team against people touch/feeling other people's totems. Yet he uses Mal's totem... Cobb often says not to do things that he ends up doing anyways.
3. Mal says at the end: "How do you know your not dreaming? The anonymous organizations chasing you like projections of your imagination". It was odd that Cobb goes from working for one group that will hunt him down once he failed his extraction on Saito to work for Saito on the very next mission.

Some smaller things:

4. When meeting the forger, Eames puts his last last 2 chips on black 13 in a casino game which looks to be some version of roulette. The very next scene he cashes out a stack of chips?
5. Cobb is being chased by his previous employers and all of the sudden in the middle of the street, Saito drive up and saves him. Very similar to how the taxi drives up to pick up each teammate when they were performing the inception. Epic what?
6. When Mal is about to jump out of the window of the hotel room, she is across the street from Cobb... in the same hotel room. It's like the mirror scene with Ariadne earlier, the room behind Mal mirrors the room behind Cobb (white flowers on white table with white couch behind etc...)
7. Cobb's children. The entire movie they make a big deal of Cobb wanting to see the faces of his children, yet refusing to look at their faces when he was in limbo with Mal at the end. Represents the guilt he feels for the idea he planted in Mal's head. Finally he rids himself of that guilt, he's able to see his children again... they are in the same position, wearing the same clothes, they are the same age, but now Cobb can see their faces. (Actually this is more proof that the top doesn't fall over at the end, and that the end scene is him in limbo)
8. He wakes up on the airplane, not attached to the dream machine. Uh oh!

Hey johny is it a big difference IMAX vs that worse 3d technology(forgot how was it called)?

On July 19 2010 04:43 JonnyCosMo wrote: Just watched Inception for the second time in IMAX. This time around I came into the movie thinking the following: What if Cobb was dreaming all along. The movie director gave a lot of really small hints that this was the case. Here is a list of all the evidence that leads me to believe that Cobb was stuck in limbo that entire movie: 1. His totem, the top. It's not his, it was originally Mal's totem. Why does Cobb not have his own totem? They mention that the concept of a totem was Mal's idea. 2. Cobb warns his team against people touch/feeling other people's totems. Yet he uses Mal's totem... Cobb often says not to do things that he ends up doing anyways. 3. Mal says at the end: "How do you know your not dreaming? The anonymous organizations chasing you like projections of your imagination". It was odd that Cobb goes from working for one group that will hunt him down once he failed his extraction on Saito to work for Saito on the very next mission. Some smaller things: 4. When meeting the forger, Eames puts his last last 2 chips on black 13 in a casino game which looks to be some version of roulette. The very next scene he cashes out a stack of chips? 5. Cobb is being chased by his previous employers and all of the sudden in the middle of the street, Saito drive up and saves him. Very similar to how the taxi drives up to pick up each teammate when they were performing the inception. Epic what? 6. When Mal is about to jump out of the window of the hotel room, she is across the street from Cobb... in the same hotel room. It's like the mirror scene with Ariadne earlier, the room behind Mal mirrors the room behind Cobb (white flowers on white table with white couch behind etc...) 7. Cobb's children. The entire movie they make a big deal of Cobb wanting to see the faces of his children, yet refusing to look at their faces when he was in limbo with Mal at the end. Represents the guilt he feels for the idea he planted in Mal's head. Finally he rids himself of that guilt, he's able to see his children again... they are in the same position, wearing the same clothes, they are the same age, but now Cobb can see their faces. (Actually this is more proof that the top doesn't fall over at the end, and that the end scene is him in limbo) 8. He wakes up on the airplane, not attached to the dream machine. Uh oh!

First my opinion:

The top does being to wobble

BUT, why would the kids be exactly the same age and doing the same things/clothes as they were when he first left? arent we meant to believe that he has spent alot of REAL time (reality) away from his kids? How have they not aged? This makes me believe it is a dream.

EDIT: Just noticed this, out of all of the deaths in dreams/limbo, the only ones we never see are Saito and cobb at the end. We assume Saito killed Cobb and then himself, but we dk for sure.

Johnnys Points:

1) I assume he took Mal's totem after she died
2) Same
4) He is a forger, those are fake chips, he made them, Cobb comments on this, something like "I see your spelling still sucks"
5) Your reaching
7) Didnt read this till after i posted my points above, totally agree here thats why i believe he is dreaming

Dileep Rao (Played Yusuf) said of the ending - "You know what, I'll just say this: Use your ears not your eyes."

Some say you can hear it slowing down and even falling, might have to see it again myself, 2.5hrs and $20 for imax to pay attention to the last 10 seconds.

On July 18 2010 09:41 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2010 09:38 CrownRoyal wrote: im failing indeed just pay the 10 bucks and go see the damn movie wtf i don't even know how someone can watch a camrip anyway... now a camrip stream that must be the most tilting shit ever wtf son?

lmao camrip stream on youtube 360p currently watching "el inceptino part 46 of 89" with spanish size 30 font subtitles son

My question is if Cobb is in limbo, why is he there in the first place? I'm guessing it would have to be Cobb and his wife used strong seditive in order to live in their long dream together and when they killed themselves on the train tracks, they were too deep into the dream state to wake up to reality and thus lost their minds.

I think the ending where his kids were in the backyard in the same clothes is suppose to strongly hint towards a dream because that was just really weird.

Also the fact that Cobb's dad was waiting for him right at the airport was kind of strange. Cobb is a grown man and I'm sure could afford any transportation to his house, plus if Cobb did "fail" on his job, I don't think he would want his father to see him get taken into custody by not being able to pass security.

OK NEW THEORY:

Im starting to think the entire movie was a dream he has on the plane. Cobb is definitely fighting demons about his wifes suicide and the entire dream is about that. The people in the dream are just people he is on the plane with that show up in his dream because he has recently seen them. After he wakes up, he does not speak to anyone and he meets his dad. The pause at customs was not significant, he was never a fugitive in the US.

I dk, just a theory.

I never bought the theory that he is dreaming or in limbo the whole time mainly due to the fact that we see him wake up from one of the shared dreams and spin his top until it falls over. So we are shown at some point that he is at some point in the real world. I went more for he might has never gotten out of limbo from when they went into the shared dream on the plane. Also for the points of "he wakes up from the dream on the plane not attached to the machine" I wondered this too but my friend pointed out that fisher woke up with the rest of the group way before cobb or saito so they would have naturally unplugged the machine asap so that fisher wouldn't have gotten suspicious or had any idea what was going on. The point "he never talks to anyone once he wakes up" is also kinda solved by my friend who said "fisher was right fucking there, what the fuck do you expect them to do? Wake up and just high five each other on the plane like yeah boy we just incepted that mother fucker, mission success bitch". They had to remain quite to make sure fisher again didn't get suspicious about what was going on.

On July 19 2010 04:43 JonnyCosMo wrote: Just watched Inception for the second time in IMAX. This time around I came into the movie thinking the following: What if Cobb was dreaming all along. The movie director gave a lot of really small hints that this was the case. Here is a list of all the evidence that leads me to believe that Cobb was stuck in limbo that entire movie: 1. His totem, the top. It's not his, it was originally Mal's totem. Why does Cobb not have his own totem? They mention that the concept of a totem was Mal's idea. 2. Cobb warns his team against people touch/feeling other people's totems. Yet he uses Mal's totem... Cobb often says not to do things that he ends up doing anyways. 3. Mal says at the end: "How do you know your not dreaming? The anonymous organizations chasing you like projections of your imagination". It was odd that Cobb goes from working for one group that will hunt him down once he failed his extraction on Saito to work for Saito on the very next mission. Some smaller things: 4. When meeting the forger, Eames puts his last last 2 chips on black 13 in a casino game which looks to be some version of roulette. The very next scene he cashes out a stack of chips? 5. Cobb is being chased by his previous employers and all of the sudden in the middle of the street, Saito drive up and saves him. Very similar to how the taxi drives up to pick up each teammate when they were performing the inception. Epic what? 6. When Mal is about to jump out of the window of the hotel room, she is across the street from Cobb... in the same hotel room. It's like the mirror scene with Ariadne earlier, the room behind Mal mirrors the room behind Cobb (white flowers on white table with white couch behind etc...) 7. Cobb's children. The entire movie they make a big deal of Cobb wanting to see the faces of his children, yet refusing to look at their faces when he was in limbo with Mal at the end. Represents the guilt he feels for the idea he planted in Mal's head. Finally he rids himself of that guilt, he's able to see his children again... they are in the same position, wearing the same clothes, they are the same age, but now Cobb can see their faces. (Actually this is more proof that the top doesn't fall over at the end, and that the end scene is him in limbo) 8. He wakes up on the airplane, not attached to the dream machine. Uh oh!

3) remember Saito at the beginning says that he was testing Cobb while they are originally trying to extract info from Saito.

Edit: Something my friend told be with regards to the kids. IRL they are Christopher Nolans children, they just didn't age because he wanted them in the movie.

The top probably was beginning to fall in the end but even if it did, do you think it would matter? This is all inside Cobb's mind, so of course if he uses his own top it's going to fall because it's his dreams.

not all a dream

also i was really hoping when the 2nd in command guy pushed the security down the paradox stairs in the hotel that he would fall ontop of his haed

On July 18 2010 18:45 CrownRoyal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2010 16:05 TheHuHu3 wrote: CrownRoyal = no friends. =(. that isn't the case but i'm not gonna call my friend and offer to byu him lunch if he goes and watches a movie with me... thats gay

wat

or you could just call a friend and ask him to see the movie with you...

On July 19 2010 14:29 YouGoTGoT wrote: OK NEW THEORY: Im starting to think the entire movie was a dream he has on the plane. Cobb is definitely fighting demons about his wifes suicide and the entire dream is about that. The people in the dream are just people he is on the plane with that show up in his dream because he has recently seen them. After he wakes up, he does not speak to anyone and he meets his dad. The pause at customs was not significant, he was never a fugitive in the US. I dk, just a theory.

also possible

i think all these different takes on the movie are pretty sick, i think grass's theory is the sickest. gonna have to watch again obv

1) As far as we know Cobb could have been a fugitive for a mere 3 months. There is no expectation that he has been running for 10 years thus his kids should have aged. This also explains the condition of his house.

2) His refusal to look at his kids is probably tied to fear of losing grip of reality. It's not a guilt thing, he just cant let himself become overwhelmed by their faces and sucked into self-induced limbo.

3) The top wobbles. Nuff said. The top has been clearly shown to spin perfectly when in a dream. There is absolutely no reason to show a wobble other than to indicate it's going to fall.

4) The rules for projections vs dreamers have already been established. The characters Cobb interacts with go beyond projections, and show events occurring to which he is not even a part of. This makes it impossible for it to all just be one big massive dream of his.

5) Saito's convenient arrival to help Cobb escape is a mere plot device. If saito was part of a dream to help save Cobb he could have just descended from a helicopter with machine guns blazing and taken out all of the guards trying to capture Cobb. The script needed a way to get Cobb to safety and so Nolan chose this, dont dwell on it.

Look guys, Chris Nolan is too smart to go for the obvious cliche. If you think about it, the whole movie being one big dream is actually rather simplistic and not some great "ZOMG MIND FUCK" like everyone is making it out to be. As mentioned earlier you should have already contemplated this possibility within 5 minutes of watching the movie, Chris knows this, and thus would never use it. From the ending of Super Mario Bros 2 to the conclusion of Lost, the "dream" excuse has been thoroughly burnt out. It's a complete copout to use it anymore, how absurd would it be for Nolan to abuse it like this in a movie based entirely around lucid dreaming. If he comes out and says this I will personally fly to LA, grab a star map, walk to his front door, ring the doorbell and slap him in the face. The movie is left much more interesting being real, not fake.

On July 19 2010 14:09 LikeASet wrote: My question is if Cobb is in limbo, why is he there in the first place? I'm guessing it would have to be Cobb and his wife used strong seditive in order to live in their long dream together and when they killed themselves on the train tracks, they were too deep into the dream state to wake up to reality and thus lost their minds.

Remember time goes slower when you dream within a dream. They could have just willfully leveled their way up 10 times and then spent 50 years of their life within an hour long nap on the floor. Besides their real life bodies have to be nourished, you cant just go on sedatives and never eat/drink again for the rest of your life.

dude, haven't watched the movie yet! with all this rave comments, makes me wanna run to the cinema like right now! will definitely watch it this weekend.


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desmond is my constant

How come when Cobb finds Saito at the end of the movie (and beginning) Saito is an old man and Cobb is still the same age, werent they both 4 levels deep?

it was all a dream, i used to read word up magazine

i thought it was all a dream from the very beginning of the movie when he met ellen page for the first time.

the chase scene really made me think it was a dream and from then on everything just reinforced it to me. but then again i think they inceptioned me and put this idea in my mind......when i wake up ill know the truth

On July 20 2010 17:12 Daut wrote: ......IF i wake up ill know the truth

fyp

good point jamie, i think im immortal, i may never die so ill prob never wake up

On July 20 2010 16:50 Jamie217 wrote: How come when Cobb finds Saito at the end of the movie (and beginning) Saito is an old man and Cobb is still the same age, werent they both 4 levels deep?

Saito dies before leo, and at level 4 ages exponentially faster than Cobb before cobb enters level 4.

oh another thing, ellen page seems to know wayyyyyyy too much about cobb, seems she almost has to be a projection

WAIT WAIT WAIT....so her name is Mal? Not Moll' as in short for Molly? wtf my mind is blown. officially.

it's short for Malcolm

On July 19 2010 16:16 PoorUser wrote: also i was really hoping when the 2nd in command guy pushed the security down the paradox stairs in the hotel that he would fall ontop of his haed

LOL

At the total end of the movie the same Edith Piaf music starts playing again, like after the final end credits. What does this mean you think?

It means you sat through all the credits for nothing

On July 20 2010 17:11 Daut wrote: it was all a dream, i used to read word up magazine

My personal take on the movie is that Mal was never real, she is an idea created by Cobb. Thus the over-arching plot of the film (which no one else has considered) is Cobb is attempting to incept himself into believing Mal is real. What is the ultimate purpose of this? It is so he can create a dream-state for himself to exist in, and by killing Mal at the deepest level of his dreams, he erases all evidence that he ever created a dream-state for himself. The superficial plot of Ken Watanbe trying to defeat his corporate opponent via inception to dissolve his entire company is a metaphor for Cobb trying to defeat his awareness of existing in a dream-state by dissolving all awareness of the layers of his dream-state.

Lots of people think that the end scene with the spinning top is open-ended, because you're not sure if the top is going to stop spinning or not. How ever, the top was never Cobb's totem for telling reality from dream-state, it was Mal's. But IMO Mal isn't real, so the spinning top is essentially a red-herring.

Finally, consider our role as the audience in watching the film Inception. We are the people infiltrating into Cobb's mind. The entire film is about us being given access to Cobb's secrets. It logically follows then that Cobb is and always was presented to us in a dream-state, in which we are the observer delving deeper and deeper into his subconscious as he constructs a way to incept himself into forgetting he was ever dreaming.

On July 19 2010 14:29 YouGoTGoT wrote: OK NEW THEORY: Im starting to think the entire movie was a dream he has on the plane. Cobb is definitely fighting demons about his wifes suicide and the entire dream is about that. The people in the dream are just people he is on the plane with that show up in his dream because he has recently seen them. After he wakes up, he does not speak to anyone and he meets his dad. The pause at customs was not significant, he was never a fugitive in the US. I dk, just a theory.

wow, this totally makes sense. I honestly think you are right and have just solved the movie.

On July 22 2010 11:26 battsmasta wrote: Show nested quote + On July 19 2010 14:29 YouGoTGoT wrote: OK NEW THEORY: Im starting to think the entire movie was a dream he has on the plane. Cobb is definitely fighting demons about his wifes suicide and the entire dream is about that. The people in the dream are just people he is on the plane with that show up in his dream because he has recently seen them. After he wakes up, he does not speak to anyone and he meets his dad. The pause at customs was not significant, he was never a fugitive in the US. I dk, just a theory. wow, this totally makes sense. I honestly think you are right and have just solved the movie.

doesnt make sense why the children are wearing the same outfits and in the same position as the entire movie.

another thing that doesnt make sense is that when he calls his kids, the daughter sounds much older than she looks in all of the scenes where we see her, you would think she would have aged by the end esp given how much older she sounded and how long it has been since cobb has seen them.

how does michael cain know to pick him up from the airport?

etc etc etc

Yea u know after seeing it a second time I think the movie is meant to have multiple interpretations. The whole deal with him dreaming and everyone being a projection doesn't make sense to me either because when Cobb and Mal were trapped together for 50 years in the dream world it was only the two of them. If Cobb was able to make projections like Mal then I would assume that they would still be in limbo when they got there. As it is though, it seems like Cobb was only able to make more realistic projections based on his own memories. I don't think he was capable of fleshing out all these projections.

Also, in the chase scene even though everyone was looking at him when he sat down, that one guy starts arguing with him and then later when the agents come in you see a bar fight happen in the background so it doesn't seem like he's in a dream.

A lot of contradictions exist in the movie and Cobb contradicts himself constantly by saying not to do one thing but doing it anyways.

On July 19 2010 18:12 n0rthf4ce wrote: i think all these different takes on the movie are pretty sick, i think grass's theory is the sickest. gonna have to watch again obv

Yo definitely watch it again it's still sick.

On July 20 2010 16:50 Jamie217 wrote: How come when Cobb finds Saito at the end of the movie (and beginning) Saito is an old man and Cobb is still the same age, werent they both 4 levels deep?

Yea I haven't really been able to make sense of that part yet. Cobb was already in lvl4 and Saito died in lvl3 so I don't know. Maybe Cobb willed himself to go forward in time in limbo or maybe at that moment Cobb died in lvl1 because his memory seemed fuzzy when talking to the old Saito

On July 20 2010 16:50 Jamie217 wrote: How come when Cobb finds Saito at the end of the movie (and beginning) Saito is an old man and Cobb is still the same age, werent they both 4 levels deep?

My thought was Saito lacked a totem so he eventually thought limbo was reality and as such he aged normally as he thought he would. Cobb knew he was in limbo the whole time searching for Saito so he didn't age.

Cobb definitely doesn't wake up at the end because:
1) They begin the inception at the beginning of a 10 hour flight from Sydney to LA. The entirety of the 10 hours translates to 1 week in level 1. When Cobb wakes up, the flight attendant asks if he wants a hot towel and immigration forms--they will be landing in 20 minutes. If indeed Cobb truly woke up, it would be mid-flight after 1 or 2 hours, not at the end of the flight.

2) Cobb wakes up unattached to Saito. It is impossible to share a dream with someone if there is no dream machine connecting you.

3) The decor of Cobb's home as well as the clothing and positioning of his children are identical than in his dreams. One of the things he warned against but didn't follow himself was that if you create dreams out of memories you can't tell what's real and what's not. He created so many dreams out of the memories of his children that at the end, even though he began to question the reality of his house and of his children and began to spin his totem, he ultimately abandoned his totem in favor of greeting his children. He no longer cared about whether or not it was reality--that was the reality he wanted to accept.

On July 22 2010 08:13 YouGoTGoT wrote: It means you sat through all the credits for nothing

Actually I was early for the next showing to assure the best seats in the theatre. Loved the movie, definitely gonna watch it again. When I finished the movie the first time I was pretty sure what was going on but now that I read all your guys comments and those on IMDb I need to rewatch it.

On July 22 2010 18:22 n0rthf4ce wrote: Cobb definitely doesn't wake up at the end because: 1) They begin the inception at the beginning of a 10 hour flight from Sydney to LA. The entirety of the 10 hours translates to 1 week in level 1. When Cobb wakes up, the flight attendant asks if he wants a hot towel and immigration forms--they will be landing in 20 minutes. If indeed Cobb truly woke up, it would be mid-flight after 1 or 2 hours, not at the end of the flight. 2) Cobb wakes up unattached to Saito. It is impossible to share a dream with someone if there is no dream machine connecting you. 3) The decor of Cobb's home as well as the clothing and positioning of his children are identical than in his dreams. One of the things he warned against but didn't follow himself was that if you create dreams out of memories you can't tell what's real and what's not. He created so many dreams out of the memories of his children that at the end, even though he began to question the reality of his house and of his children and began to spin his totem, he ultimately abandoned his totem in favor of greeting his children. He no longer cared about whether or not it was reality--that was the reality he wanted to accept.

1) They don't mention how long Cobb and Saito have been in limbo, it could have been that they were in limbo for 8 real hours. Also they clearly didn't start the mission at the beginning of the flight since they were passing out drinks and such, if they only needed 1 hr in real life at most to complete the mission they would have started it probably well into the flight.

2) As I/my friend said before the rest of the crew woke up with Fisher well before Cobb and Saito got out of limbo, they would have unattached the machine. It is never said anytime during the movie that you need the machine to stay in each others dreams/limbo, it is only needed to induce the sleep/shared dreaming state.

3) Valid point which is why I'm still unsure if he woke up or not.

also from IMDB "The reason you see him (Cobb) wash up onshore at the end is because he dies from drowning in lvl 1 which resends him into limbo even though he was already there but since he died and was sent there he doesnt really know that he was dreaming until saito made him realize he was. " for more clarity on things people might have been wondering

On July 22 2010 18:22 n0rthf4ce wrote: Cobb definitely doesn't wake up at the end because: 1) They begin the inception at the beginning of a 10 hour flight from Sydney to LA. The entirety of the 10 hours translates to 1 week in level 1. When Cobb wakes up, the flight attendant asks if he wants a hot towel and immigration forms--they will be landing in 20 minutes. If indeed Cobb truly woke up, it would be mid-flight after 1 or 2 hours, not at the end of the flight. 2) Cobb wakes up unattached to Saito. It is impossible to share a dream with someone if there is no dream machine connecting you. 3) The decor of Cobb's home as well as the clothing and positioning of his children are identical than in his dreams. One of the things he warned against but didn't follow himself was that if you create dreams out of memories you can't tell what's real and what's not. He created so many dreams out of the memories of his children that at the end, even though he began to question the reality of his house and of his children and began to spin his totem, he ultimately abandoned his totem in favor of greeting his children. He no longer cared about whether or not it was reality--that was the reality he wanted to accept.

Completely agree that Cobb is definitely not in reality at the end. Nothing adds up to him making it back to the real world. But what's ambiguous is whether or not he was in reality before that.

They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight.

Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something?

At the end, Cobb’s kids seem to be the same age and are seemingly wearing the same clothes as they were in his memory of them – is it “proof” he’s still dreaming? As carefully documented by our own Vic Holtreman, at the end of the film Cobb’s kids are wearing similar outfits to the ones he remembers, but their shoes are different. As for their ages: if you check IMDB, there are actually two set of actors credited with playing Cobb’s kids. The daughter
, Phillipa, is credited as being both 3 and 5 years old, while the son, James, is credited as being both 20 months and 3 years old. This suggests that while it might be subtle, there is a difference between the kids in Cobb’s memories and the kids Cobb comes home to. That would suggest the homecoming is in fact “reality.” But feel free to debate that.

Source: http://screenrant.com/inception-spoilers-discussion-kofi-68330/3/

Also in all scenes where he's supposed to be in "reality" he isn't wearing a wedding ring whereas he is in the dream scenes, so it has to be real at the end imo

On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something?

They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care

Also sick find whoosel

i would like to see this movie again.

jamie, that is one of the first things that comes to mind. why is saito old in that scene?
what level were they on in that scene?
how exactly does cobb get out of level 4(limbo)?
could saito have actually died before getting kicked and still sedated and been put into limbo?
the top was mal's top not cobb's top so that's not really a way of determining reality for cobb.
really there are just a million things in this movie.

i've read some theories/reviews online (basically from 2p2 hs thread) and think it's pretty sick that there are so many viable possibilities.

specifically this one:

http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html

and then fds's posts on the matter on 2p2.

i'm hoping nolan got sick inspired/manic/woteva and wrote a trilogy that will delve into the characters/stories more and tie up a lot of the loose ends and inaccuracies w/ out getting too contrived/ridiculous.

if not, the movie certainly got me high better than most things and that's pretty prittttaaay good for 10 bones.

I like anyone else would love to see a sequel but the fact is that's just our desire to relive that feeling we got from this movie. In reality, IMO, this movie delivered all that needed to be delivered from a conceptual standpoint and more would only take away from the greatnesss of this film.

i really feel that one would need a pen and paper and the script to comprehend whats going on.
Doesn't Caine tell DiCaprio a line that i semi-missed about how in his real world he is running around extracting information from people's dreams with the implication that it is crazy?
How can you be certain that even teh reality 0 is real. Maybe it's some sort of SH scenario where the hero simply couldn't cope with his wife's sucide and abandoned their children.

this would probably be a really awful movie to have a sequel to. I thought the movie was just ok, not really a thinking movie but it made you feel smart when you watch it, nothing more. And it definitely wasn't as "deep" as all the interpretations of it. Reminds me of English class when you have to interpret a passage in a book and how it relates to X or Y. Like the author would EVER try to link those things together...South Park's The Tale of Scroty McBoogerballs anyone?

On July 24 2010 14:11 thewh00sel wrote: this would probably be a really awful movie to have a sequel to. I thought the movie was just ok, not really a thinking movie but it made you feel smart when you watch it, nothing more. And it definitely wasn't as "deep" as all the interpretations of it. Reminds me of English class when you have to interpret a passage in a book and how it relates to X or Y. Like the author would EVER try to link those things together...South Park's The Tale of Scroty McBoogerballs anyone?

people see what they wanna see. Some people just go with what they saw on the screen, but personally i greatly enjoyed thinking about the movies and analyzing all possible scenarios which can be true while complying with laws Nolan has set out for his dream world.

On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel

Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns.

Definitely a dream - he didn't escape.

His daughter's voice was a teenager's voice when he first talked to her and she's still a kid at the end of the movie.

BOOM. Damn I'm good.

On July 24 2010 14:11 thewh00sel wrote: this would probably be a really awful movie to have a sequel to. I thought the movie was just ok, not really a thinking movie but it made you feel smart when you watch it, nothing more. And it definitely wasn't as "deep" as all the interpretations of it. Reminds me of English class when you have to interpret a passage in a book and how it relates to X or Y. Like the author would EVER try to link those things together...South Park's The Tale of Scroty McBoogerballs anyone?

yea. but the dude spent like 10 years on the movie and some things throughout the movie make you think. like at the end when he is in limbo or level 4 then doesnt get kicked up so actually dies drowning in level one. yusuf says something to him would be curious what that is.


although

if reality was actually a dream then why when mal kills herself jumping off the building would she not instantly dump leo in a tub and kick him up

On July 24 2010 15:51 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns.

Even if Saito wasn't the boss, he was definitely someone very important in the company (he had the ability to purchase an airline because he thought it would be needed for the inception plan to go through) and thus Fischer should have recognized him, especially if he was riding on an airline owned by a member of a rival company.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2010 03:44 Achoo wrote: + Show Spoiler + This Movie was the biggest piece of shit ever filmed. I've lost 2H30 of my life that I will never get back. The idea was fucking awesome and it was heavy material for realizing a sick movie, unfortunatly the result is a huge fail. At the end you don't even care if it stops spinning or not, you're too busy rushing to the exit and end the pain.

watched it twice with tokeweed. slept through the first one, then today finally understood it. i choose to believe it was a happy ending, coz i want to watch movies that make me feel good haha

great movie, but if you guys want to see a real mindfuck watch inland empire.

On July 25 2010 03:44 Achoo wrote: + Show Spoiler + This Movie was the biggest piece of shit ever filmed. I've lost 2H30 of my life that I will never get back. The idea was fucking awesome and it was heavy material for realizing a sick movie, unfortunatly the result is a huge fail. At the end you don't even care if it stops spinning or not, you're too busy rushing to the exit and end the pain.

Putting this post into spoiler tags makes no sense for at least a couple of reasons

On July 25 2010 02:50 Jas0n wrote: Show nested quote + On July 24 2010 15:51 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns. Even if Saito wasn't the boss, he was definitely someone very important in the company (he had the ability to purchase an airline because he thought it would be needed for the inception plan to go through) and thus Fischer should have recognized him, especially if he was riding on an airline owned by a member of a rival company.

Not necessarily. Although i do admit that for a guy that is trained in anti-inception Fischer is very weakly protected in the real world. A guy that valuable would have an entourage.
That sorta would strengthen my "entire movie is a dream" theory.

On July 26 2010 07:13 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2010 02:50 Jas0n wrote:   On July 24 2010 15:51 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns. Even if Saito wasn't the boss, he was definitely someone very important in the company (he had the ability to purchase an airline because he thought it would be needed for the inception plan to go through) and thus Fischer should have recognized him, especially if he was riding on an airline owned by a member of a rival company. Not necessarily. Although i do admit that for a guy that is trained in anti-inception Fischer is very weakly protected in the real world. A guy that valuable would have an entourage. That sorta would strengthen my "entire movie is a dream" theory.

This only strengthens my "Chris Nolan is a mortal" theory.

On July 26 2010 07:32 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2010 07:13 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 25 2010 02:50 Jas0n wrote:   On July 24 2010 15:51 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns. Even if Saito wasn't the boss, he was definitely someone very important in the company (he had the ability to purchase an airline because he thought it would be needed for the inception plan to go through) and thus Fischer should have recognized him, especially if he was riding on an airline owned by a member of a rival company. Not necessarily. Although i do admit that for a guy that is trained in anti-inception Fischer is very weakly protected in the real world. A guy that valuable would have an entourage. That sorta would strengthen my "entire movie is a dream" theory. This only strengthens my "Chris Nolan is a mortal" theory.

obviously this is valid too, but is it as entertaining?

On July 26 2010 05:58 Stroggos wrote: great movie, but if you guys want to see a real mindfuck watch inland empire.

Day and night, Lynch might be the most important director of the last 50 years... If you want to fuck up your brain then you can go and try to "analyze" his masterpieces ....

Why cant Cobb create anymore? Just putting this out there: what if Adriane was Cobbs daughter. Adriane can't use her real name cause Cobb would find out who she is and ruin everything. This should somehow explain why Cobbs father was at the airport. lol

About the token.. what if Cobb just spins it cause he wants Mal to be there when he sees the kids.. he knows its gonna drop

Saito is older in lvl 4 cause he entered earlier and time passes ui3492348d838 times quicker there.. leo wakes up on the beach cause he drowned in the first level or w/e... like when there is rain and random physics when Cobb is selling himself as a security guy to Robert

On July 24 2010 15:51 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2010 18:59 palak wrote:   On July 22 2010 18:44 Webjoker wrote: They do need the full 10 hours because that's why they are looking for him going to the hospital or a long flight. Also, why does Fischer not recognize Saito when they are on the same plane to LA? Saito is one of the biggest competitors for Fischer's world energy dominance right, they sure must know each other? Or am I missing something? They may have planned to use the full 10 hours but once everything goes to shot in the dream they speed up their plans. For example eaves eta 1 he to crack fisher instead of all night. So the rest of the crew would have woken up with plenty of time to spare while Cobb and Saito r stuck in limbo for the flight time remaining. As for fisher not recognizing saito...that's just cuz it's a movie and ppl didn't think anyone would care Also sick find whoosel Saito didnt have to be the boss. Could be just someone working for the boss, would explain his proficiency with guns.

i think it was pretty obvious he was the boss

Ya he definitely owned the company

On July 27 2010 15:23 YouGoTGoT wrote: Ya he definitely owned the company

like a boss

I needed a fuckin totem after the movie... 2.30 come ooooon Otherwise a great movie nevertheless, I just think making it 20-30 minutes shorter would be better ( ike skip parts of the annoying action scenes of which you don`t really understand who is shooting who anyways)

On July 28 2010 02:19 Svetoslav wrote: I needed a fuckin totem after the movie... 2.30 come ooooon Otherwise a great movie nevertheless, I just think making it 20-30 minutes shorter would be better ( ike skip parts of the annoying action scenes of which you don`t really understand who is shooting who anyways)

Ban.

just saw it today, great movie.
now reading all these theories about how it could all be a dream and how cobb is the one that's being inceptioned, makes it all one big mindfuck

On July 28 2010 02:23 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2010 02:19 Svetoslav wrote: I needed a fuckin totem after the movie... 2.30 come ooooon Otherwise a great movie nevertheless, I just think making it 20-30 minutes shorter would be better ( ike skip parts of the annoying action scenes of which you don`t really understand who is shooting who anyways) Ban.

Its not like we watched this movie for the action scenes anyways

Hmm, not only for the action scenes. But i'm getting more and more tired with people discussing 4895 different theories on what actually happened and what is real.

Not everything has to be clear in a movie but this just feels like the author only wrote half chapters. I don't really believe he would write a plot that only 1% of the people gets either...

On July 28 2010 05:53 aseq wrote: Hmm, not only for the action scenes. But i'm getting more and more tired with people discussing 4895 different theories on what actually happened and what is real. Not everything has to be clear in a movie but this just feels like the author only wrote half chapters. I don't really believe he would write a plot that only 1% of the people gets either...

this. people put waaaaay too much stock on the ending where the totem didn't stop spinning lol
i slept good after watching this movie thinking it was what it appeared to be

On July 28 2010 06:14 Webjoker wrote:

this is good graph. cept cobb actually dies drowning in yusufs level but same difference i guess.

This Is this sequel. He's still on shutter island.

+ Show Spoiler +

not really though.

The top wobble is the airplane landing. Or not necessarily that but clearly a wobble could be just some turbulence in the world 1 level up.

For those in the still dreaming camp, do you think it's because he realized it and decided to stay or because he still doesn't know.

http://9gag.com/gag/30375

http://music.zackhemsey.com/track/mind-heist

just saw it today great movie

On July 23 2010 10:05 RiKD wrote: http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html

wow I think this guy solved it all

loved the movie

On July 29 2010 18:03 concrescence wrote: just saw it today great movie

Same , polish premier was yesterday, sick good movie. Damn, I will prolly go watch again ;D

Pretty much, there is no 'real' ending to the movie; he could be dreaming still or it could be reality, it's up to you. They're both just ideas that Christopher Nolan has placed in your head and they have grown like viruses.

-4chan

Was a great movie indeed, but I am a little sick of Leo always being so serious. He should go back to his roots: What's Eating Gilbert Grape 2! ONE TIME!

I liked the chud idea of how the movie is written, but no matter the explanation it is good movie

ahhhhhhhhhhh i could finally open this thread
watched it yesterday
but def need to watch again! such a nice movie

On July 31 2010 14:11 Gawuss wrote: Show nested quote + On July 23 2010 10:05 RiKD wrote: http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html wow I think this guy solved it all loved the movie

On July 28 2010 02:19 Svetoslav wrote: I needed a fuckin totem after the movie... 2.30 come ooooon Otherwise a great movie nevertheless, I just think making it 20-30 minutes shorter would be better ( ike skip parts of the annoying action scenes of which you don`t really understand who is shooting who anyways)

the movie felt like it was 30 min long

On July 28 2010 06:15 whamm! wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2010 05:53 aseq wrote: Hmm, not only for the action scenes. But i'm getting more and more tired with people discussing 4895 different theories on what actually happened and what is real. Not everything has to be clear in a movie but this just feels like the author only wrote half chapters. I don't really believe he would write a plot that only 1% of the people gets either... this. people put waaaaay too much stock on the ending where the totem didn't stop spinning lol i slept good after watching this movie thinking it was what it appeared to be

so u accepted it as reality so u could sleep at night

thats exactly what cobb did

On August 10 2010 12:12 player999 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2010 02:19 Svetoslav wrote: I needed a fuckin totem after the movie... 2.30 come ooooon Otherwise a great movie nevertheless, I just think making it 20-30 minutes shorter would be better ( ike skip parts of the annoying action scenes of which you don`t really understand who is shooting who anyways) the movie felt like it was 30 min long

that's because you fell asleep for 2 hours and dreamed that you were watching the movie

2hr sleep = 24hr dream according to the movie so no

On August 10 2010 07:44 concrescence wrote: Show nested quote + On July 31 2010 14:11 Gawuss wrote:   On July 23 2010 10:05 RiKD wrote: http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html wow I think this guy solved it all loved the movie

i think he's looking too deep into it

cobb woke up, when he saw his kids faces he knew he was in reality because their faces wasn't in his memory. so he didn't need to check the top to see if it had fallen.

this is a hollywood blockbuster movie, everything is spelled out for you with the movement of the camera and the music, it isn't literature and poetry where there are so many subtle things un accounted for and left to interpretation. so just because they added one little gimmick at the end suddenly we're supposed to get all philosophical and start questioning whether or not things were real or not and mind fuck ourselves? fuck that. if you wanted a movie like that watch something that isn't from hollywood and isn't meant to really offer anything deep. experience it like you would experience a roller coaster, don't treat it like art. if it's art, then it's cheap art for the masses. maybe a movie from ingmar bergman would be a good choice.

^^^^
Definitely agree with this...

satan has spoken

On August 11 2010 02:01 ParadoxPLZ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2010 07:44 concrescence wrote:   On July 31 2010 14:11 Gawuss wrote:   On July 23 2010 10:05 RiKD wrote: http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html wow I think this guy solved it all loved the movie i think he's looking too deep into it cobb woke up, when he saw his kids faces he knew he was in reality because their faces wasn't in his memory. so he didn't need to check the top to see if it had fallen. this is a hollywood blockbuster movie, everything is spelled out for you with the movement of the camera and the music, it isn't literature and poetry where there are so many subtle things un accounted for and left to interpretation. so just because they added one little gimmick at the end suddenly we're supposed to get all philosophical and start questioning whether or not things were real or not and mind fuck ourselves? fuck that. if you wanted a movie like that watch something that isn't from hollywood and isn't meant to really offer anything deep. experience it like you would experience a roller coaster, don't treat it like art. if it's art, then it's cheap art for the masses. maybe a movie from ingmar bergman would be a good choice.

Actually i think u missed the whole point, it wasn't just one little gimmick.. that little gimmick was to let all the viewers who didnt get it realize the possibility that that might not actually be reality when in fact throughout all movie the director made the scenes the way they are for the viewer to not be certain if his reality is actually reality. Movie would have been better without the spinning thing at the end, it was unnecessary and a little insulting to viewers but given the broad range of people watching it i guess it was necessary.

how is it possible that I agree with both camilapunt and paradox? maybe im dreaming too

On August 11 2010 02:01 ParadoxPLZ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2010 07:44 concrescence wrote:   On July 31 2010 14:11 Gawuss wrote:   On July 23 2010 10:05 RiKD wrote: http://chud.com/articles/articles/244...NG-AND-SECRET-OF-INCEPTION/Page1.html wow I think this guy solved it all loved the movie i think he's looking too deep into it cobb woke up, when he saw his kids faces he knew he was in reality because their faces wasn't in his memory. so he didn't need to check the top to see if it had fallen. this is a hollywood blockbuster movie, everything is spelled out for you with the movement of the camera and the music, it isn't literature and poetry where there are so many subtle things un accounted for and left to interpretation. so just because they added one little gimmick at the end suddenly we're supposed to get all philosophical and start questioning whether or not things were real or not and mind fuck ourselves? fuck that. if you wanted a movie like that watch something that isn't from hollywood and isn't meant to really offer anything deep. experience it like you would experience a roller coaster, don't treat it like art. if it's art, then it's cheap art for the masses. maybe a movie from ingmar bergman would be a good choice.

Pretty much sums up my after thoughts about the movie perfectly.

Amazing fucking movie, I wish people could just enjoy things more instead of nitpicking things apart and creating wild delusions about events they perceived to see.

Also thought it was a sick movie, although I disagree strongly to what Paradox wrote. Each to his own I guess.

Don't watch too much movies lately because I feel I've seen/thougt it all, but this was a fresh breath of air. What made it so cool is that it's different from 99% of the blockbuster movies, even though it is one, if that make sense.

http://images.memegenerator.net/Incep...-america-why-not-have-michael-can.jpg