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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 30 2010 02:11. Posts 7292 | | |
Game is a 3 blind 10/20/40 game. Villan in the hand is incompetent in all the wrong ways, yet convinces himself that he's the greatest thing that has ever happened to the poker community. Very hard to fully describe our history since he's basically a nit who spazzes the fuck out sometimes, and I've previously caught him in some lol pots where his line has made no sense and he has been running one of his epic spazz bluffs. With that said, I think he's actually a winner in these games. Lol live poker :-p
Big fish ($4,000) limps in early positions, Villan ($7500) limps behind in middle positions. I am in CO with  and raise to $220 because fuck them. Big fish folds and Villan makes a very fast call. Putting his range here as very wide given that he's aware that I isolate this spot very wide.
Flop comes   
Villan checks, and I check behind
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Villan checks, I bet $450, Villan now check raises to $900. O_O... I call.
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Villan tanks for a full minute then checks. I bet $1200. Villan thinks for a full 5 minutes in the most zZz Hollywood time bank ever, then check-raises to $3,200.
Normally I find this a very quick and fast fold. But... this motherfucker... wtf 
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chipsOwner   Czech Republic. May 30 2010 04:11. Posts 529 | | |
i read most of your hands you post in this section cuz the way you describe them, its like watching rounders with more levels. i liek. |
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SpasticInk   Sweden. May 30 2010 08:06. Posts 6298 | | |
Is river a standard value bet? |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 30 2010 11:35. Posts 7292 | | |
like i guess there is some merit to checking behind the river.... that feels so dirty thou. |
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mikeymoo   Canada. May 30 2010 12:37. Posts 988 | | |
Does he usually think for so long with his spazz bluffs? |
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TheHuHu3   United States. May 30 2010 16:24. Posts 5544 | | |
Dude, his line makes absol-fucking-lutely 0 sense. |
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[vital]Myth   United States. May 30 2010 17:04. Posts 12159 | | | |
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player999   Brasil. May 30 2010 17:07. Posts 7978 | | |
I cant picture someone thinking for 5 minutes then raising
what a douche |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 30 2010 19:11. Posts 7292 | | |
This guy is first and foremost a nit. A little loose preflop, passive but randomly spazzy post flop. Doesn't like to get fucked with.
Again, very hard to fully describe what goes on in this idiots mind.
vs such a player what do u guys think about the $1200 river bet. More I think about it, more I hate it, but I dunno if thats just me not being able to looks away from the result of what happened.
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4Kingell   United Kingdom. May 30 2010 21:44. Posts 1453 | | |
Whoops. Alcohol and LP <> wisdom. Self nuke. |
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Rekrul   United States. May 30 2010 23:30. Posts 3338 | | |
study him
imagine you are him inside his body
feel as you think he feels
then call
depending on what he had use that feeling to gain soul reads on him for hte rest of ur life |
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Fayth   Canada. May 30 2010 23:48. Posts 10085 | | |
man i bluff this spot so often in his place, well except I'd never min raise turn though so I don't know lol
but in urs I'd check back against someone who would tend to bluff raise air rivers in appropriate spots |
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Rekrul   United States. May 31 2010 01:49. Posts 3338 | | |
u checkback vs ppl who bluff raise
wat |
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ManYac   Poland. May 31 2010 11:13. Posts 152 | | |
| | On May 30 2010 22:48 Fayth wrote:
but in urs I'd check back against someone who would tend to bluff raise air rivers in appropriate spots |
Bleh, if he bluff raise isint bet/call ? Am I missing something ? |
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locoo   Peru. May 31 2010 11:14. Posts 4566 | | |
my 1st instinct is to call, i mean hes thinking way too long, i don't think if he had a monster he would be able to wait that much to get his money, hes prob just thinking about what you can have and getting his balls together for a bluff, plus his raise doesn't make a lot of sense for a valueraise in my eyes, i would think he makes it a bit bigger with his monsters, because you are only calling with good hands anyway |
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locoo   Peru. May 31 2010 11:20. Posts 4566 | | |
btw i really like your live poker posts, i play in a very similar game keep em coming! |
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GiYoM   Korea (South). May 31 2010 12:05. Posts 455 | | |
that river bet is the worrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst and im drunk so i cant even begin to imagine how bad it is when ur sober |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 31 2010 13:24. Posts 7292 | | |
| | On May 31 2010 10:14 locoo wrote:
my 1st instinct is to call, i mean hes thinking way too long, i don't think if he had a monster he would be able to wait that much to get his money, hes prob just thinking about what you can have and getting his balls together for a bluff, plus his raise doesn't make a lot of sense for a valueraise in my eyes, i would think he makes it a bit bigger with his monsters, because you are only calling with good hands anyway |
yea... these same exact thoughts use to go through my head... and 100 failed soul reads later I figured out I was just levelling myself.
Initially, given his line, I felt that nothing beats me on river here :-P / on rare occation I value cut myself vs slightly better two pairs with the $1200 value bet on the river. My only concern is how many hands are worse that he will call $1200 on river with, and I think there isnt much in that range that plays like that on turn. Prolly bad river bet. I still feel pretty fucking dirty to have to check behind here thou zZz |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. May 31 2010 13:27. Posts 7292 | | |
If I thought he was spazzy enough to bluff raise my river bets a high % of the time... i love my river bet O_O |
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TimDawg   United States. May 31 2010 17:26. Posts 10197 | | |
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call because fuck him |
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Rekrul   United States. May 31 2010 19:15. Posts 3338 | | |
| | On May 31 2010 11:05 GiYoM wrote:
that river bet is the worrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst and im drunk so i cant even begin to imagine how bad it is when ur sober |
LOLOL u would never EVER EVER check back there in ur life EVER |
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GiYoM   Korea (South). May 31 2010 20:42. Posts 455 | | |
| | On May 31 2010 18:15 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 11:05 GiYoM wrote:
that river bet is the worrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst and im drunk so i cant even begin to imagine how bad it is when ur sober |
LOLOL u would never EVER EVER check back there in ur life EVER
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Jun 01 2010 08:40. Posts 8918 | | |
I usually consider a tank/raise as the nuts but not sure how he can have them there... flip a coin imo. |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jun 02 2010 01:00. Posts 7292 | | |
I folded. He mucked. Sigh  |
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chipsOwner   Czech Republic. Jun 02 2010 03:34. Posts 529 | | | |
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Dogan0s   United States. Jun 02 2010 10:16. Posts 902 | | |
| | On June 02 2010 02:34 chipsOwner wrote:
nit |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jun 02 2010 22:49. Posts 7292 | | | |
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RiKD   United States. Jun 06 2010 14:57. Posts 9917 | | |
what kinda hands does he limp pf you think? can he limp a QT and play it like this? a K2 of spade? would he play 77 like this? A7?
w/ out any reads it feels like a retard nit 7x spade. or possibly a retard nit staring down at the Kx/Jxss all stressed out about how he's gonna get the most.
you think he "hollywood" tank 5 min then bluff w/ a 45hh?
i mean if you think he can show up w/ a 65hh or a JTo or something and will be playing w/ him a lot sure call. if the spidey senses are tingling that he's bluffing and you are playing well call. but otherwise i like the fold.
anyways, far far far more important is the fact you stuck 30bbs in there on the river very likely stone dead.
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thewh00sel   United States. Jun 06 2010 15:47. Posts 2735 | | |
i think someone who takes 5min and raises is going to have a non-nut but strong hand here that he's trying to muster the strength to get more value out of, but you dont beat any of those hands so a good fold i think |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jun 08 2010 11:51. Posts 7292 | | |
you are master of the very very obvious |
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royalsu   Canada. Jun 19 2010 03:42. Posts 3233 | | |
cosmo, are you white or asian?? |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 20 2010 15:26. Posts 20070 | | |
| | On June 19 2010 02:42 royalsu wrote:
cosmo, are you white or asian?? |
cosmo is awesome |
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royalsu   Canada. Jun 21 2010 20:02. Posts 3233 | | |
i agree. I met cosmo in real life and his smile is legendary. But I am wondering whether the average person who doesn't know him thinks he looks more asian or more white.
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BigRed0000   United States. Jun 23 2010 21:54. Posts 3554 | | |
hes half asian like me (pretty sure). I lean towards he looks more asian than white. |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jun 24 2010 16:42. Posts 7292 | | |
My smile is as legendary as RaSZi's frown |
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InsideMan   United Kingdom. Jul 30 2010 09:40. Posts 159 | | |
| | On June 06 2010 14:47 thewh00sel wrote:
i think someone who takes 5min and raises is going to have a non-nut but strong hand here that he's trying to muster the strength to get more value out of, but you dont beat any of those hands so a good fold i think |
I was thinking along the same lines. I wouldn't expect a bluff here really, just "thin" value and sometimes the nuts. Tanking here for 5 minutes is still ridiculous though. |
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cariadon   Estonia. Jul 30 2010 23:14. Posts 4019 | | |
Did you atleast tank 4 minutes before folding?
Next time call so we could go like "yeah, told you so" Why did you just call the minraise on turn btw? :
Isn't it like an easy raise on turn or am i too european-minded. |
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