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player999   Brasil. May 24 2010 17:42. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 14:15 lucifer wrote:
Lost timeline
S1 - Purgatory theory
Damon - Nah that isn't it. LoL
S2-S6 - WTF?
Last Episode - Oh wait it was purgatory after all. |
it wasnt, the island was real, purgatory is the season 6's flashbacks |
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player999   Brasil. May 24 2010 17:44. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 14:16 k2o4 wrote:
So can someone, with all the knowledge we have now, kinda put together an explanation of what the fuck happened and what the bigger idea was? I'm hearing purgatory, they were all dead, reincarnation, enlightenment, going to heaven, and more. So what the fuck was this story about? |
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Some ppl crash into an island, where a lot of weird stuff happens. Jack dies there, some of them escape, some (Hugo, Ben) stay there to protect some crazy light. What happens with the ones who escape? Dunno. What happens to the ones who stay? Dunno. But that was the best time of Jack's life, so when they die they all get together on the afterlife(purgatory/season 6 flashbacks), and forget about all that happened and move on.
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. May 24 2010 17:49. Posts 6374 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 16:42 player999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 14:15 lucifer wrote:
Lost timeline
S1 - Purgatory theory
Damon - Nah that isn't it. LoL
S2-S6 - WTF?
Last Episode - Oh wait it was purgatory after all. |
it wasnt, the island was real, purgatory is the season 6's flashbacks
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player999   Brasil. May 24 2010 17:51. Posts 7978 | | |
when Hugo says to Ben "you were a great number 2" and Ben says "you were a great number 1" they are referring to all the stuff that happened after Jack's death (that they didnt elaborate), that is them meeting after they die, thats why Ben apologises to John for killing him |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. May 24 2010 18:18. Posts 6374 | | |
yeah but they are all dead so these are flashforwards actually  |
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lucifer   Sweden. May 24 2010 20:07. Posts 5955 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 16:42 player999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 14:15 lucifer wrote:
Lost timeline
S1 - Purgatory theory
Damon - Nah that isn't it. LoL
S2-S6 - WTF?
Last Episode - Oh wait it was purgatory after all. |
it wasnt, the island was real, purgatory is the season 6's flashbacks
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I prefer it not being real since that wouldn't make it all a huge FUCK YOU from the writers. |
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player999   Brasil. May 24 2010 20:14. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 19:07 lucifer wrote:
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On May 24 2010 16:42 player999 wrote:
| | On May 24 2010 14:15 lucifer wrote:
Lost timeline
S1 - Purgatory theory
Damon - Nah that isn't it. LoL
S2-S6 - WTF?
Last Episode - Oh wait it was purgatory after all. |
it wasnt, the island was real, purgatory is the season 6's flashbacks
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I prefer it not being real since that wouldn't make it all a huge FUCK YOU from the writers. |
its not about preferring, it really was exactly a big FUCK YOU from the writers thats why we be hatin |
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zulu_nation8   United States. May 24 2010 20:32. Posts 1929 | | |
the writers need to issue some kind of apologize for the last 3 seasons |
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k2o4   United States. May 24 2010 21:13. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 14:55 killThemDonks wrote:
an explanation from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25026434828&sid=1
Show nested quote +
How can people get this far into the show and not understand it?
The events of the island actually happened, the survivors were alive on the island. The events of the sideways are in an ambigous timeline when ALL the survivors are gone. Christian's statement clearly points this out, "some died before you, some after," along with Hurley and Ben obviously having a past that is after Jack's death in the final scene, showing more went on after his death than what we saw.
Hugo says "you WERE a good number 2", and Ben replies "And you WERE a good number 1"
Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Richard, Sawyer and Kate all left the island, only to die some time after Jack.
Jack died as he walked around the bamboos, which was obviously where he first woke up.
Ben and Hugo did what Richard and Jacob did until who knows when, and then they died. We dont know when this happened. It could be the day after they took the job, or it could be hundreds or thousands of years after, like how it was for Jacob.
The purgatory is timeless. When one of them dies, they experience what we just saw. So, when Locke was killed by Ben, he began to see the alternative timeline, got hit by Desmond, remembered his on-island life through Jack, and so on. They are in the same purgatory realm, even if they didn't die at the same time.
Island = Real
Flash Sideways = Purgatory/Afterlife
The Church and the final scene = Heaven
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I understand all of this but it explains nothing, most importantly the flash SIDEWAYS of season 6 (it's not back or forward, it's sideways, get the terms straight guys!).
Some people are going with flash sideways being purgatory / afterlife. I think they fit more as an alternate reality.
Now here's something NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED. And this seems to be the real point of the show. The ending was about them all going together past purgatory/reincarnation. But to do that they all had to be "woken up". To wake them up Desmond and Hurley were running around organizing stuff. But remember the white haired lady, faraday's mother, is very aware of what's going on. She and desmond have been having some crazy meetups in alternate realities since season 3. So it seems to me that the point of the entire series wasn't to save the light or find out about jacob or anything like that, it was about all of these people moving on to a higher state of being, and finding a way to make that happen. It's clear from faradays mother that desmond has tried this multiple times and failed. This time he finally has figured out how to get everyone awake and together.
This is what tilts me - there's no talk about faraday's mother, desmond and hurley, and what they were up to in the flash sideways, how they knew to do those things, etc. |
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why no women could have babies on the island?
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player999   Brasil. May 24 2010 21:40. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 20:13 k2o4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 14:55 killThemDonks wrote:
an explanation from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25026434828&sid=1
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How can people get this far into the show and not understand it?
The events of the island actually happened, the survivors were alive on the island. The events of the sideways are in an ambigous timeline when ALL the survivors are gone. Christian's statement clearly points this out, "some died before you, some after," along with Hurley and Ben obviously having a past that is after Jack's death in the final scene, showing more went on after his death than what we saw.
Hugo says "you WERE a good number 2", and Ben replies "And you WERE a good number 1"
Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Richard, Sawyer and Kate all left the island, only to die some time after Jack.
Jack died as he walked around the bamboos, which was obviously where he first woke up.
Ben and Hugo did what Richard and Jacob did until who knows when, and then they died. We dont know when this happened. It could be the day after they took the job, or it could be hundreds or thousands of years after, like how it was for Jacob.
The purgatory is timeless. When one of them dies, they experience what we just saw. So, when Locke was killed by Ben, he began to see the alternative timeline, got hit by Desmond, remembered his on-island life through Jack, and so on. They are in the same purgatory realm, even if they didn't die at the same time.
Island = Real
Flash Sideways = Purgatory/Afterlife
The Church and the final scene = Heaven
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I understand all of this but it explains nothing, most importantly the flash SIDEWAYS of season 6 (it's not back or forward, it's sideways, get the terms straight guys!).
Some people are going with flash sideways being purgatory / afterlife. I think they fit more as an alternate reality.
Now here's something NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED. And this seems to be the real point of the show. The ending was about them all going together past purgatory/reincarnation. But to do that they all had to be "woken up". To wake them up Desmond and Hurley were running around organizing stuff. But remember the white haired lady, faraday's mother, is very aware of what's going on. She and desmond have been having some crazy meetups in alternate realities since season 3. So it seems to me that the point of the entire series wasn't to save the light or find out about jacob or anything like that, it was about all of these people moving on to a higher state of being, and finding a way to make that happen. It's clear from faradays mother that desmond has tried this multiple times and failed. This time he finally has figured out how to get everyone awake and together.
This is what tilts me - there's no talk about faraday's mother, desmond and hurley, and what they were up to in the flash sideways, how they knew to do those things, etc. |
bro, my posts and killThemDonks' explain it very clearly
its not an alternate universe, the flashFORWARD is purgatory, were they meet in the afterlife
just read killThemDonks' post |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. May 24 2010 21:47. Posts 6374 | | |
OR its a huge lvl and its lost actors reunion in 2030 after they all start drinking heavily trying to forget how horrible the final ep was while acting in another crappy series (sawyer stars in a sitcom about cops lol) and then they meet and finaly move on together |
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zulu_nation8   United States. May 24 2010 22:12. Posts 1929 | | | |
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blackjacki2   United States. May 24 2010 23:01. Posts 2582 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 14:55 killThemDonks wrote:
an explanation from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25026434828&sid=1
Show nested quote +
How can people get this far into the show and not understand it?
The events of the island actually happened, the survivors were alive on the island. The events of the sideways are in an ambigous timeline when ALL the survivors are gone. Christian's statement clearly points this out, "some died before you, some after," along with Hurley and Ben obviously having a past that is after Jack's death in the final scene, showing more went on after his death than what we saw.
Hugo says "you WERE a good number 2", and Ben replies "And you WERE a good number 1"
Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Richard, Sawyer and Kate all left the island, only to die some time after Jack.
Jack died as he walked around the bamboos, which was obviously where he first woke up.
Ben and Hugo did what Richard and Jacob did until who knows when, and then they died. We dont know when this happened. It could be the day after they took the job, or it could be hundreds or thousands of years after, like how it was for Jacob.
The purgatory is timeless. When one of them dies, they experience what we just saw. So, when Locke was killed by Ben, he began to see the alternative timeline, got hit by Desmond, remembered his on-island life through Jack, and so on. They are in the same purgatory realm, even if they didn't die at the same time.
Island = Real
Flash Sideways = Purgatory/Afterlife
The Church and the final scene = Heaven
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This is a pretty cool post but it really only explains the final season. That collegehumor video above sums it up pretty well and there's a lot more random stuff than that. |
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player999   Brasil. May 25 2010 00:17. Posts 7978 | | |
| | On May 24 2010 22:01 blackjacki2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2010 14:55 killThemDonks wrote:
an explanation from http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25026434828&sid=1
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How can people get this far into the show and not understand it?
The events of the island actually happened, the survivors were alive on the island. The events of the sideways are in an ambigous timeline when ALL the survivors are gone. Christian's statement clearly points this out, "some died before you, some after," along with Hurley and Ben obviously having a past that is after Jack's death in the final scene, showing more went on after his death than what we saw.
Hugo says "you WERE a good number 2", and Ben replies "And you WERE a good number 1"
Miles, Lapidus, Claire, Richard, Sawyer and Kate all left the island, only to die some time after Jack.
Jack died as he walked around the bamboos, which was obviously where he first woke up.
Ben and Hugo did what Richard and Jacob did until who knows when, and then they died. We dont know when this happened. It could be the day after they took the job, or it could be hundreds or thousands of years after, like how it was for Jacob.
The purgatory is timeless. When one of them dies, they experience what we just saw. So, when Locke was killed by Ben, he began to see the alternative timeline, got hit by Desmond, remembered his on-island life through Jack, and so on. They are in the same purgatory realm, even if they didn't die at the same time.
Island = Real
Flash Sideways = Purgatory/Afterlife
The Church and the final scene = Heaven
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This is a pretty cool post but it really only explains the final season. That collegehumor video above sums it up pretty well and there's a lot more random stuff than that. |
you dont seem to get it, funny how many ppl dont
the end doesnt explain the things video talks about and instead says "let it go, we aint explainin shit, just remember how fun it was trying to create theories and all and forget it now" |
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Perisie   . May 25 2010 00:40. Posts 801 | | |
for someone who only spent 2 hours reading the lost wiki and never watched an episode before, i felt quite satisfied with that ending |
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xafies   Greece. May 25 2010 06:31. Posts 1079 | | |
from : http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2010/05/ending-explained-in-simple-terms-by.html
It seems like a lot of people are confused about the ending, I was not, assuming I am correct about it, here is an easy explanation.
Season 1 - They all crashed. All the characters we knew and loved the last 6 years DID NOT DIE HERE! I repeat, they did not die here.
Season 2 - Stuff happened
Season 3 - Stuff happened
Season 4 - Stuff happened
Season 5 - Stuff happened
Amongst this stuff, lots of people died!
Season 6 - Let's ignore the alt. universe.
More people died. At the end, the Hurley is the new Jacob, the new protector of the island. He may be there for thousands of years, but eventually he will die. Ben is his sidekick, the new Richard, he may be there for thousands of years, and eventually he will die. Desmond is with them, but Hurley will get him off the island, he is the new Jacob, he has powers. Eventually he will die.
Jack died (with Vincent, Matthew Fox's dog in real life, laying next to him, so ****ing sad). Kate, Claire, Sawyer, Lapidus, Miles, and Richard all flew off the island. Let's assume they lived happily ever after, but eventually, they all died too. Everyone dies! That's life for ya, death and taxes are the only two sure things.
Now this is where the opening of Season 6 starts, once everyone is dead. They are all in purgatory. It all begins in the plane because this is where the most important part of their lives began, where they met the most important people they would ever meet, Oceanic Flight 815.
Problem though is, they are dead but not at peace. They all can't move on. They all miss each other. There are too many stones yet unturned. Too many sins not atoned for.
Charlie tried to kill himself, but he couldn't die, he was already dead! When he saw this, he then had a flash of what meant most to him while he was alive . . . Claire. He opens the door for Desmond, and Desmond opened the door for everyone else. Every person had to realize what they all had been through, the giant adventure. They had to see all the sacrifices they made, all the things they did, the HELL they went through, and they had to see it together. Jack was just the last one to figure it out in the afterlife.
Ben couldn't move on just yet. Having Hurley give him a thumbs up and Locke forgiving him wasn't enough. He killed his dad, he killed his daughter, he killed all of Dharmaville! He wasn't ready yet, he needed to atone.
Everyone else though, they were sitting in the church, much like passengers in the plane, and the two most important people, Jack and Locke, were in the front row, on a flight to their ultimate peace.
That was the tv show LOST! It was an adventure about a group of people who were alone, they had no one, they were dubbed a tremendous responsibility, and they were all LOST. In the end, after they saved the world, after they made sacrifices, they were all together in the end, no longer alone, no longer LOST.
And that is why it is the greatest show ever.
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lucifer   Sweden. May 25 2010 09:17. Posts 5955 | | |
xafies... jesus we KNOW
And that is why it is the fucking retarded ever. |
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