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JonnyCosMo   United States. Oct 13 2009 14:23. Posts 7292

Original link: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/56/...deep-5-10-20-40-river-madness-603768/

Thought this was getting some pretty funny convo, so I'd bring it over here. The hand history on the original post is a little off, the exact hand went like this. It was just single straddled so $5/$10/$20, young guy who posted the thread is named Jake and is one of the bigger winners in most line-ups at this cardroom. He is sitting a little over $9k deep and I cover. I raise button to $80, he flats the SB. Everyone else folds.

Flop comes: Jc 9c 4c (Pot: $190)
Jake checks, I bet $150, Jake check-raises to $450, I call.

Turn comes: Js (Pot: $1090)
Jake checks, I bet $700, Jake check-raises to $2100, I tank for a minute then call.

River comes: Kc (Pot: $5290)
Jake checks, I tank for 10 seconds then shove all-in for $6k+ on river.

Jake sighs and turns Ac 8c face-up and after a little time mumbling to himself, folds.

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Flame away lol

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Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUserLast edit: 13/10/2009 14:24

blackjacki2   United States. Oct 13 2009 14:45. Posts 2582


  Originally Posted by dgiharris
As played,

the c/r on the turn and his flat call should have told you that he did not have a full house.

If he had a full house on the turn, he just min raises you back to inflate the pot so he can get more money out of you on the river.

Given that you have the A 8 of clubs, the only hands that makes any sense for him to have is pocket Kings with the King of clubs or a made flush like K Q clubs. And the only way he'd have this hand is if he was a calling station who just couldn't lay down pocket Kings or King high flush. And to be fair, there are plenty of players who just can't lay down hands like this in this situation despite the giant neon sign that says you are strong here.

So when the King of Clubs comes on the river, that should have told you you were way way way good here because no way would someone stick around after that check raise with pocket kings and no king of clubs.

So when he calls you on the turn, to me, that is just way way way too strange of a play. I mean, what would call that check raise? Made flush and or KKs with King of club. Nothing else calls that check raise, full house at least min raises you there.

Incidentally, when you check raise the turn and then check the river, that is a huge show of weakness begging for any decent player to put the heat on you. And the K of clubs is a GREAT bluff card on the river.

As played, you have to call the river IMO unless you are scared of quad Jacks. Quad jacks would be the only hand that 'makes' sense given the progression of the action (though I still think quad jacks min raises you on the turn). And being scared of quads is just no way to play since they happen so infrequently.

I've noticed that when players are deeped stacked and huge amounts are involved, that players rarely will call an all-in unless they have the absolute nuts. I think this is a leak in a lot of people's game and gets exploited alot.



LOL


player999   Brasil. Oct 13 2009 14:47. Posts 7978

that post is A+

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TimDawg    United States. Oct 13 2009 15:17. Posts 10197

lol sorry maybe i shouldn't spoil it haha

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinballLast edit: 13/10/2009 15:18

Sicks Macks   United States. Oct 13 2009 15:40. Posts 3929

Excellent use of humantomonkey.jpg

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BigRed0000    United States. Oct 13 2009 15:42. Posts 3554

lol jake


BigRed0000    United States. Oct 13 2009 15:43. Posts 3554

lol cosmowned.

palomar is awesome


Chewits   United Kingdom. Oct 13 2009 16:15. Posts 2539

WOW. Just wow. Hand of the week for sure...

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Garfed   Malta. Oct 13 2009 16:38. Posts 4818

lol, that comment cracked me up:

  Originally Posted by Ben86 View Post
i have no clue what either of you are doing but it looks really fun

 Last edit: 13/10/2009 16:38

[vital]Myth    United States. Oct 13 2009 17:31. Posts 12159

LOL i'll leave it open for the rofls but both hands played here are literally the nut low of everything

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terrybunny19240   United States. Oct 13 2009 21:03. Posts 13829

HAHHAHAHA


pinbaLL    Sweden. Oct 14 2009 02:37. Posts 7243

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Oct 14 2009 07:46. Posts 8623

it's such a superfunny hand.


FrinkX   United States. Oct 14 2009 12:02. Posts 7562

theres no discussion

stop posting ur brutal hands that somehow randomly work out for u in the end and u try n make them a brag

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

FrinkX   United States. Oct 14 2009 12:03. Posts 7562

and didnt this hand happen before i went to london? i went to london on september 24th. yea it had to have i remember u telling me in person

suckest failbrag

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

locoo   Peru. Oct 14 2009 13:06. Posts 4566

live poker, must be nice

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 14 2009 21:32. Posts 20070

cosmo delivers

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Oct 14 2009 22:59. Posts 7292


  On October 14 2009 11:03 FrinkX wrote:
and didnt this hand happen before i went to london? i went to london on september 24th. yea it had to have i remember u telling me in person

suckest failbrag



it did, i thought it was funny that there was a post made on it on 2p2. semi-brag obv

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JonnyCosMo   United States. Oct 14 2009 22:59. Posts 7292


  On October 14 2009 12:06 locoo wrote:
live poker, must be nice



yes, it is nice

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Oct 15 2009 13:43. Posts 8119

Rest of the hand sucks but u redeem yourself on the river! Lol

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iakim322   United States. Oct 16 2009 18:39. Posts 1335

You run so f'ing' good for that guy to have botched his hand on the turn so badly. But because you do, this worked out for the best, and I can imagine your shitting Cosmo grin as you showed your hand at the same time as that guy's probable wtf look...this hand rocks.


Rekrul   United States. Oct 17 2009 09:43. Posts 3338

fuck you frinkx this cosmo thread owns

LOvEDoM says: ALL IN WAR 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Oct 19 2009 10:46. Posts 7080

if you put him on a flush and think he folds the river on a blank this is pretty sick

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

superfashion   United States. Oct 19 2009 11:01. Posts 918

Absolutely sick.

shoving here as a bluff at 50NL is like explaning calcalus to a 6 month old cat wtf are you thinking - TalentedTom 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Oct 20 2009 17:04. Posts 7292


  On October 19 2009 09:46 Nazgul wrote:
if you put him on a flush, JX, or air and think he folds the river on a blank this is pretty sick



high five!

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUserLast edit: 20/10/2009 17:05

 



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