NL25 AA spot

villain is 36/19 with an AF of 3 over 67 hands.
Standard river B/F spot?

Handnr: 712979

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looking back: bet more on flop and turn, b/f river or check?

pot turn

river looks like a standard check

You have to bomb flop of course, I doubt that a guy like this will pay attention to bet sizing much.
Same applies for turn, standard is bet stronger.

I bet/fold river too, he could easily peel with K hands or have some wacky pocket pair that he calls (whats his 3bet%?)


P.S. I don't think you have enough hands, but if you had more and he was always betting/raising draws / betting when you check or raise weak bets you can try to induce bluff on any street he is aggressive on.
If you get some decent idea on how he plays you could alter the BBB/F line.

Guys with these stats are tricky to play and the more reads you can get and exploit the better.

I think it has to be B/F river. maybe like 5 in to 9 on the river and K will probably still call.

pussy pf raise

Your flop and turn bets are so weak. Pump it up. Also x4 at NL25 is probably alot better as standard raise than x3

On July 03 2009 05:41 gruffalo wrote: I think it has to be B/F river. maybe like 5 in to 9 on the river and K will probably still call.

what king is in his range besides Kx of clubs or two pair. unless the guy is a total fucking idiot.

With his stats, i think KJs K10s K10o K10s.

btw, im not trying to assert my opinion because i believe it is correct. i am trying to give my suggestions, so that i can be corrected and i can also learn from other people's HHs.

If we check bet flop bet turn check river, is this c/c river or c/f river. there are straight draws out there also. you say, unless he is "total fucking idiot", he may well be with those kind of stats.

also, is it possible that he may show up with QQ, 1010, JJ? i just think there are many hands still to get value from.

I agree b/f is probably best here. There are lots of hands that will/could call and he also could be a complete idiot. It may be a little thin but I still think there is value to be had.

Any PP/pair, any K.

You've got to bet bigger flop and turn though....

On July 03 2009 06:18 Into Infinity wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 05:41 gruffalo wrote: I think it has to be B/F river. maybe like 5 in to 9 on the river and K will probably still call. what king is in his range besides Kx of clubs or two pair. unless the guy is a total fucking idiot.

Hero raises 3BB Preflop, so I assume he plays a bunch of hands, and also cbets almost any flop.
Against this bet size, position and his stats, Villain is likely to peel many over cards, even with as little as one club.

(A guy with stats like this is hardly solid, because you think its stupid to peel oop here doesn't mean people don't do it)

He will call you with 87 here. Valuebet for sure.

bet 2.50, fold to raise. maybe call minraise

7$ fold to shove. then make a note.

you always bet here, there is no other option.

There is just such a huge amount of cards that are callign flop/turn that you have to bet river. It's going to be profitable. Also wtf check river? or bet small? bet big the end.

you should put yourself into villians shoes. if you have J8 are you calling 2 streets? or folding turn? if you have 99 are you calling 2 streets? how many times have we been the hero and called 3 streets with weaker then AA here? I know i've done it so because of this the river is an obvious bet.

Nobody has pointed out that your bet sizing is a HUGE LEAK. This river spot might generally be the toughest theoretical decision, it's not the one that's going to affect your winrate the most here. You MUST bet bigger on the flop and turn, and then prepare to shove the river.

Anyways, as played, bet somewhere between $5-7 and fold to a shove. You will get called by worse nearly 100% of the time, and raised by better about 90% of the time.

You can also expect a fold very frequently but that's fine too.

On July 03 2009 12:18 edzwoo wrote: Nobody has pointed out that your bet sizing is a HUGE LEAK. This river spot might generally be the toughest theoretical decision, it's not the one that's going to affect your winrate the most here. You MUST bet bigger on the flop and turn, and then prepare to shove the river. Anyways, as played, bet somewhere between $5-7 and fold to a shove. You will get called by worse nearly 100% of the time, and raised by better about 90% of the time. You can also expect a fold very frequently but that's fine too.

Hey I did

Oh okay well refer to Chewits post in bold and increased font size.

lol

On July 03 2009 05:22 Into Infinity wrote: pot turn river looks like a standard check

for some reason i thought this was nl10

bet more on flop. bet more on turn. bet/fold river

On July 03 2009 13:21 Chewits wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 12:18 edzwoo wrote: Nobody has pointed out that your bet sizing is a HUGE LEAK. This river spot might generally be the toughest theoretical decision, it's not the one that's going to affect your winrate the most here. You MUST bet bigger on the flop and turn, and then prepare to shove the river. Anyways, as played, bet somewhere between $5-7 and fold to a shove. You will get called by worse nearly 100% of the time, and raised by better about 90% of the time. You can also expect a fold very frequently but that's fine too. Hey I did

Me too....

So apart from Chewits and I nobody mentioned betsizing

On July 04 2009 05:12 4Kingell wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:21 Chewits wrote:   On July 03 2009 12:18 edzwoo wrote: Nobody has pointed out that your bet sizing is a HUGE LEAK. This river spot might generally be the toughest theoretical decision, it's not the one that's going to affect your winrate the most here. You MUST bet bigger on the flop and turn, and then prepare to shove the river. Anyways, as played, bet somewhere between $5-7 and fold to a shove. You will get called by worse nearly 100% of the time, and raised by better about 90% of the time. You can also expect a fold very frequently but that's fine too. Hey I did Me too.... So apart from Chewits and I nobody mentioned betsizing

Are you kidding me?
I told him he has to bomb flop and bet stronger turn.
What do you think that means?

hint:I was not talking about his mission to Afghanistan or NASCAR Racing,

haha lemon

On July 04 2009 08:59 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2009 05:12 4Kingell wrote:   On July 03 2009 13:21 Chewits wrote:   On July 03 2009 12:18 edzwoo wrote: Nobody has pointed out that your bet sizing is a HUGE LEAK. This river spot might generally be the toughest theoretical decision, it's not the one that's going to affect your winrate the most here. You MUST bet bigger on the flop and turn, and then prepare to shove the river. Anyways, as played, bet somewhere between $5-7 and fold to a shove. You will get called by worse nearly 100% of the time, and raised by better about 90% of the time. You can also expect a fold very frequently but that's fine too. Hey I did Me too.... So apart from Chewits and I nobody mentioned betsizing Are you kidding me? I told him he has to bomb flop and bet stronger turn. What do you think that means? hint:I was not talking about his mission to Afghanistan or NASCAR Racing,

LOL, OK OK - couldn't be arsed reading all again. So......apart from Chewits, Lem and I (and OP lol) nobody mentioned betsizing