UFC 100

Main card:

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher

Under card:

Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty



Mir vs Lesnar

I have a hard time understanding anyones predictions on Mir vs Lesnar. Mir rapidly improved his striking which was showcased vs Nogueira, but even that fight doesn't prove a whole lot because it was more Nog looking bad than Mir looking good. Mir has a history of looking good and looking bad randomly but even though he has been in the UFC forever there are always so many unknown factors regarding his fights. He's a liability at all times. A mental case of not preparing. I have never seen Mir go to distance without gassing. New and improved Mir has won a bunch of quick fights so who knows.

Who's to say how fast Lesnar improves, too.We have no clue about his sub defense at this point and you really gotta be in his training camp to say something about this. He has had two years to learn it but that is not nearly enough to grapple with Mir. It's not going to be a grappling match though two years might also be easily be enough given Lesnars wrestling positioning and gnp. It's just all up in the air. Pretty random match I'm not even too excited about it since I have a strong dislike for both guys. If I dislike a fighter I can look forward to his fights in order to see him get his ass kicked but since I dislike both I can't even do that.

GSP vs Alves

This is easily going to be GSPs biggest test. I'm usually an avid bettor on GSP but definitely shying away from this one on either side. Alves has a style that is great versus anyone in the world as has been displayed by Crocop throughout most of his career but especially in 2006. If you have amazing takedown defense and amazing standup you can almost completely do without grappling and takedowns, until you meet a superior striker no matter how little MMA skills this striker has you will have a lot of trouble. As is displayed by Hunt vs Mirko and Kongo vs Mirko. Mirko is easily at all times a better MMartist than both these guys however matches up very poorly against them. Alves is a lot like this and can definitely give GSP trouble. GSP has been able to take down almost anyone at all but Alves tdd is at a whole new level for 170. Again definitely not betting on this one either. Alves might have the right style to beat GSP but at the same time might simply not be good enough at it. GSP has shown heart, conditioning, gameplanning, all skills Alves has yet to show us. GSP clearly is the favorite here but that is what the betting lines say as well. I would think Alves has a chance in the first few rounds and after that he will have to show us how much is in his gas tank.

Fitch vs Thiago

Thiago is _not_ good. If you may ever speak of a fluke KO it would be his fight against Koscheck. He does not have good boxing, he does not have much power. The stars aligned and everything worked out for him once but that will not happen against Fitch. Fitch is near unupsettable due to his wellrounded skills, heart and cardio. GL with that Paulo.



$500 (max) on Fitch at -365 to win $137

Coleman vs Bonnar

This is just a joke. Anyone with cardio should be a -1000 favorite over Coleman. Bonnar does have cardio and will obliterate him in rounds 2 and 3. Bonnar is very tough so it will also be hard to fluke upset him with a KO or sub (lol).

$1425 on Bonnar at -347.50 to win $404

Henderson vs Bisping

This is going to be interesting. When the lines were released Henderson was a -500 favorite and by now the lines have gone all the way to -225. Thinking about a bet on him now. I don't think Bisping is at the level Henderson and Franklin are at. Not in striking, heart, subs, wrestling. Cardio especially at 185 he will be ahead of Henderson in all likelyhood. That is the only thing what should keep you from betting as Hendo has historically shown terrible cardio (and skill with it) at 185. A loss vs Misaki and a few weird split decisions against Kondo/Bustamante and a bunch of wins in which he did not look good. Lately however he looked alright vs Anderson and pretty good against Palhares. I might put a small bet on him after all.

Pretty solid card overall. I don't think it is UFC 100 worthy mostly due to my lack of interest in Mir vs Lesnar, but a good card nonetheless. Excited to see Jon Jones back again. At the speed he improved last time we may expect a lot from him. Miller vs Danzig is a very good fight. I think Danzig is really good but should probably fight at 145. Neer just towered over him. Who isn't waiting to see Akiyama perform in the octagon. Miller Danzig, Akiyama Belcher, Jones Obrien are all fights I would like to see.

MiR > Lesnar plz 1 time leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well, 2 times actually

holy shit the bonnar vs coleman fight is free money...

Sexyama for the win

Thanks for the write up its a damn good main event card. My favorites being Lesnar, GSP, and Henderson.

I'm not sure GSP can lose a match. He's scary.

On July 01 2009 11:44 DustySwedeDude wrote: I'm not sure GSP can lose a match. He's scary.

Matt Serra?

seen a sparring vid with frank today. looking in best muscular shape ive ever seen him in easily. i was actually a lesnar fan for him risking trying to become an mma guy and hes a hard worker etc. then hated him after the whole cowboy riding heath herring thing and the attitude hes shown. go mir by uh.... guillotine?

dunno why but i always root against gsp except against hughes. goooo alves.

id be careful on the coleman fight. hes been training at extreme couture. hes really hard to sub and will take stephan down with ease. if he gets in shape at EC and the weight cut goes better for him he could easily take this.

really excited for danzig vs miller, akiyama vs belcher and obviously gsp vs alves. other fights i am intrigued by, but not really pumped for.



gsp vs alves has some interesting implications for the future of both 170 and 185 divisions. if gsp wins then who gets a title shot next? nobody is ready yet. fitch got obliterated and winning 2 fights vs gono and thiago doesnt earn him another shot. koscheck just lost. hughes cant compete with gsp anymore. serra just lost. kampmann needs another fight or two. swick needs another fight or two. diego moved down to 155.

basically i think if gsp beats alves, kampmann vs swick needs to happen to create the next title shot. while that is happening gsp should move up to middleweight and get in a warmup fight before he tries to get in there with anderson. someone he would do well against that isnt bad like a ricardo almeida or nate quarry or kendall grove (play off the hawaii fued). gsp would really really struggle against some people at mw like henderson, akiyama, guys that are bigger/stronger than him with really good wrestling/judo and good standup.

but what gsp has is the perfect style to possibly beat anderson which really really sets up a superfight in the next 12-18 months if both guys keep winning over everyone. but gsp should definitely have a warmup fight at 185 first to get used to both putting on more weight and fighting bigger opponents, then move back to 170 to defend his title vs swick/kampmann winner, then back to 185 to fight anderson if he wins that.


if thiago does beat gsp, i think gsp should get an immediate rematch for a few reasons. for one, gsp is basically the face of the sport and is the most popular fighter in the ufc, he should be fighting in big title fights, not rebound fights where he will destroy someone. for two nobody else in the division is ready and who wants to ice a champion to wait for other matches to happen so he can defend his title, and for three it would just be a massive massive ppv event because it wouldnt be looked at as a complete fluke like the serra fight.



the mir/lesnar fight i am pulling for brock. as victor said mir is really spacey and i dont think he has nearly as high a ceiling in the sport as brock does. also if brock wins it would set up some really interesting future matchups in the ufc while i think mir would just get dominated by a lot of other guys who are better strikers/have tdd or are good enough grapplers to hold their own and not get subbed. anyway im really curious to see how far brock has come along, and i hope the fight goes at least 5-10 minutes so each fighter can showcase their skills a bit.



akiyama is so so so good. not only does he fight out of japan and get that market into the ufc, but he has korean heritage so he gets almost all of the asian fighting market tuned in. hes a really classy, well dressed, likeable guy that has insane skills. the guy has better judo than karo with good striking, pretty damn good subs and a good head to go with it. he seems like a really intelligent guy too, so learning and adapting comes easier to him than others.

i think its possible he could have the best chance of anyone to beat anderson at 185 because of his judo, striking, grappling combination. hes only been defeated once, and that was his first fight vs k1 legend jerome lebanner who had like a 60-70 pound advantage on akiyama and it still wasnt an easy victory. hopefully he gets a few wins so he can getinto the title mix at 185 along with maia/marquardt/hendo. maybe an akiyama vs hendo fight down the road at like ufc 106 if both guys win to set up a title shot after maia/marquardt.



hmm, not much to say on bisping vs hendo or the other fights.

unrelated but theres a rumor going around kimbo lost his first fight in tuf 10 house lmao

christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over?
It's dynasty time IMO

On July 01 2009 13:26 TalentedTom wrote: christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over? It's dynasty time IMO

bet the house on shogun son. macheetah is going down.

On July 01 2009 13:19 Daut wrote: unrelated but theres a rumor going around kimbo lost his first fight in tuf 10 house lmao

sucks. feel bad for the guy. shoulda went to japan and made tons of money.

nice spoiler daut

On July 01 2009 15:25 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 13:26 TalentedTom wrote: christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over? It's dynasty time IMO bet the house on shogun son. macheetah is going down.

he has to get hit before that happens, which is unlikley

On July 01 2009 11:47 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 11:44 DustySwedeDude wrote: I'm not sure GSP can lose a match. He's scary. Matt Serra?

Yea, but I heard Jesus got his ass kicked a few time before he got into this I'm 3-dudes-at-the-same-time-thingy and such too so like, that's in the past, now he's like The Fallen without stupid plot twists and sick Hidden Random Luck.

GSP is overall better than Alves

However Alves can knockout anyone at 170 with his Muay Thai skills.
+ Alves is one of the very few guys at 170 who is the same size GSP is

On July 01 2009 12:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: seen a sparring vid with frank today. looking in best muscular shape ive ever seen him in easily. i was actually a lesnar fan for him risking trying to become an mma guy and hes a hard worker etc. then hated him after the whole cowboy riding heath herring thing and the attitude hes shown. go mir by uh.... guillotine? dunno why but i always root against gsp except against hughes. goooo alves. id be careful on the coleman fight. hes been training at extreme couture. hes really hard to sub and will take stephan down with ease. if he gets in shape at EC and the weight cut goes better for him he could easily take this.

wat? Coleman even on steroids couldnt last longer than 1 round, he will get murdered

On July 01 2009 18:55 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 12:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: seen a sparring vid with frank today. looking in best muscular shape ive ever seen him in easily. i was actually a lesnar fan for him risking trying to become an mma guy and hes a hard worker etc. then hated him after the whole cowboy riding heath herring thing and the attitude hes shown. go mir by uh.... guillotine? dunno why but i always root against gsp except against hughes. goooo alves. id be careful on the coleman fight. hes been training at extreme couture. hes really hard to sub and will take stephan down with ease. if he gets in shape at EC and the weight cut goes better for him he could easily take this. wat? Coleman even on steroids couldnt last longer than 1 round, he will get murdered

thats because he was always at a very very shitty camp. EC might get him into decent shape. not to mention bonnar couldnt finish a childrens book. not saying coleman will win. just saying with those shitty odds dunno if its worth it.

On July 01 2009 17:17 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 15:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On July 01 2009 13:26 TalentedTom wrote: christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over? It's dynasty time IMO bet the house on shogun son. macheetah is going down. he has to get hit before that happens, which is unlikley

he hasnt fought any decent strikers beyond sam greco which is a fight i heard machida shoulda lost and rich.

LYOTOS GOING DOWN!

for people who havnt bet yet in a recent interview apparently bonnar said everyone at extreme couture is saying colemans cardio is actually looking really good.

On July 02 2009 15:20 Stim_Abuser wrote: for people who havnt bet yet in a recent interview apparently bonnar said everyone at extreme couture is saying colemans cardio is actually looking really good.

lol nice one

On July 01 2009 13:19 Daut wrote: unrelated but theres a rumor going around kimbo lost his first fight in tuf 10 house lmao

Bet Dana White is spreading that rumour around to boost ratings even more.

On July 02 2009 15:20 Stim_Abuser wrote: for people who havnt bet yet in a recent interview apparently bonnar said everyone at extreme couture is saying colemans cardio is actually looking really good.

what do you want them to say... that he runs out of gas in 1 minute?

On July 02 2009 20:13 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2009 15:20 Stim_Abuser wrote: for people who havnt bet yet in a recent interview apparently bonnar said everyone at extreme couture is saying colemans cardio is actually looking really good. what do you want them to say... that he runs out of gas in 1 minute?

bonnar and coleman train at the same gym. this isnt like a public quote. its other people at the gym telling bonnar colemans completely changed his game up and is a cardio monster. could just be a motivator thing but i dunno i wouldnt sleep on coleman here.

bonnar will not lose here. coleman has never improved himself over the years unlike randy. he's old and unimproved.

his only shot is that bonnar cannot do anything standing or on the ground and coleman lnp him for 3 rounds. (he won't tko bonnar)

On July 01 2009 19:04 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 17:17 TalentedTom wrote:   On July 01 2009 15:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On July 01 2009 13:26 TalentedTom wrote: christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over? It's dynasty time IMO bet the house on shogun son. macheetah is going down. he has to get hit before that happens, which is unlikley he hasnt fought any decent strikers beyond sam greco which is a fight i heard machida shoulda lost and rich. LYOTOS GOING DOWN!

so because of this you should be dropping about 5k on shogun? i mean if it's so obvious in your mind? shogun is a huge dog on betting lines.

On July 03 2009 11:51 Fox wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2009 19:04 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On July 01 2009 17:17 TalentedTom wrote:   On July 01 2009 15:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On July 01 2009 13:26 TalentedTom wrote: christ machida is -500 to rape Rua. Is there any fighter at LHW that machia isn't be an enormous favorate over? It's dynasty time IMO bet the house on shogun son. macheetah is going down. he has to get hit before that happens, which is unlikley he hasnt fought any decent strikers beyond sam greco which is a fight i heard machida shoulda lost and rich. LYOTOS GOING DOWN! so because of this you should be dropping about 5k on shogun? i mean if it's so obvious in your mind? shogun is a huge dog on betting lines.

maybe 1k ;]

really really excited about this event, there's 8 fights i really want to watch

mir vs lesnar:

i know this isn't really on par (in terms of fighter skill) as pretty much any other title fight but there's just a really awesome feel to this fight, i think either guy could end up being an amazing champion and go on a huge run which i think is why im looking forward to it so much. as for the fight itself lesnar should be able to decide where he wants to fight which is, as always, a huge advantage. so even though i think mir is far more skilled, i give an edge to lesnar...if mir can control the standup and hurt brock though he'll win. another big question is cardio if it happens to hit 3rd round or further.

alves vs gsp:

god this is a dream fight. this is the first time gsp won't have an obvious size/strength advantage, he's still the more athletic of the two but he shouldn't be able to muscle alves around the cage like he has before. despite alves being bigger i think gsp still gets a good number of takedowns but i also think he's going to have to engage alves a lot standing so it'll be interesting to see how gsp handles the leg kicks. for gsp, when standing he needs to stay aggressive and stalk alves not letting him throw a lot of jab/kick combos as well as look for the td as much as he can. for alves, he needs to really work his jab to keep gsp at distance so he can defend the shot as much as possible but he also can't be afraid to throw leg kicks either since in a strictly boxing match he probably doesn't have very much of an advantage. if he can wear gsp out he can look to finish later on. edge to gsp obviously but maybe not as much as other people seem to give.

bisping vs hendo:

this fight should do a really nice job figuring out where both these guys stand at 185, whomever wins should be a fight from #1 contender (or #1 contender already) and the loser needs to work to bring himself back up into contention depending on how the fight goes. bisping is reasonably well rounded and athletic but hendo throws bombs and has an obvious advantage in the clinch and the ground. for bisping, obviously he's going to need to keep as much distance as possible from hendo and avoid the clinch like the plague, if he can get in some clean combos and get out before hendo is able to land a right hand he should be able to do well...also probably a good idea to go after the body somewhat since hendo does have conditioning problems every now and then. hendo has a ton of options really, if he can stay aggressive walking forward and suck bisping into a brawl i expect him to win, he can also just clinch up and drop bisping on his head at will and grind out a decision. i give a significant advantage to hendo though probably not enough to cover the -220 he's getting on pinnacle.

jon fitch vs paulo thiago

depending on what happens in the gsp vs alves fight, fitch might still be the 2nd best ww in the world right now so i really love the fact that he's being put on the main card of ufc 100 and he's fighting a guy with a lot of hype that he should crush. the really cool thing about this fight for thiago is it's really a win win situation for him, he's young and still more of a prospect than anything else and this fight is going to give him a ton of experience without hurting his career and obviously if he wins it's gonna immediately propel him to a championship fight. as for the fight, fitch should dominate pretty much everywhere. koscheck was pretty much teeing off on thiago until he got caught so fitch should be able to do the same and thiago won't be getting any td's at all, even on the ground fitch will be on top pounding thiago out and thiago has almost no chance to lock in a sub. as naz said fitch is almost completely unupsettable, he's ridiculously tough (near the same level as big nog in his prime) and has excellent all around grappling. fitch is -365 on sportsbook which, even though he's such a heavy fav, is still probably a good bet...fitch just doesn't lose unless he's outclassed :[

yoshihiro akiyama vs alan belcher

akiyama in the ufc is awesome. he's extremely talented and very athletic and has tons of charisma. im a little weary of putting him up against belcher in his first fight in the ufc since belcher is certainly not a bad fighter (and experienced in the cage which akiyama is not) but even still akiyama should win as long as he looks to get the fight on the ground. even still, belcher really doesn't have much of an advantage in standup and akiyama will be tossing him around like a rag doll in the clinch so as long as akiyama doesn't get dragged into a brawl his method of winning is pretty simple.

also really eager to see dhk fight again (hoping he can start getting back on a roll, he's very talented), jon jones fight again (this should be a very interesting fight too, both are great wrestlers with one freestyle and the other greco), and mac danzig vs jim miller (should be a very competitive fight and im looking forward to seeing how miller does).

don't really care about bonnar vs coleman but i will say that bonnars size and submission skills shouldnt be underestimated, he's huge and can definitely sub coleman in many different ways

Daut United States. Jul 01 2009 12:31. Posts 4899 basically i think if gsp beats alves, kampmann vs swick needs to happen to create the next title shot.


http://mmajunkie.com/news/15356/marti...nder-bout-at-ufc-103-in-september.mma


For those of you that think alves is bigger than gsp, well your right. gsp reportedly weighed 187lbs vs bj penn. Alves on the other hand weighed 197lbs vs koscheck. He even missed his weight cut and weighed even more vs Hughes. I'm remembering 201lbs but i'm not 100% sure on that 1.

gsp fans be reasured by the fact that his sparing partners from Greg Jackson camp (Rashad Evans, Nate Marquart and Keith Jardine) have said many times that gsp takes them down at will. This will be very interesting. warrrrrrrr gsp!!!

Sparring partners always talk up their teammates I wouldn't take it too serious.

On July 06 2009 19:16 Nazgul wrote: Sparring partners always talk up their teammates I wouldn't take it too serious.

QFT! this is the second time they are being quoted (the other about Colemans cardio being really good ROFL), what do you expect them to say? "oh GSP can never take me down he is in deep shit vs Alves" obviously they are not going to say that.

they train at the same gym. these are bonnars friends telling him this. not a different camp.

and it wasnt his sparring partners quoted. it was bonnars friends telling bonnar in private be careful because colemans cardio is looking pretty good. and then bonnar requoted when asked about the fight.

Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven.

Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there.

Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate.

Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ.

GSP is gonna run through alves. Alves is a big strong guy but i'm telling you that gsp will take him down when he wants to and he's gonna finish him probably round 3.

On July 07 2009 09:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven. Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there. Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate. Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ.

When coleman fought fedor he was on steroids and much younger, and he didnt really put a good fight imo.

his first fight he did really well, it just sucks when you fight fedor cuz he can go from 0-60 in no time flat and do things that only middleweights can do.

On July 07 2009 09:58 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 09:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven. Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there. Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate. Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ. When coleman fought fedor he was on steroids and much younger, and he didnt really put a good fight imo.

Granted he seemed to fight a different Fedor, but he did better then either Sylvia or Arlovski. Coleman is really one of the greatests heavyweights, its just too bad he was stuck in Hammerhouse for so long.

I also forgot Bisping vs Hendo, which i think Bisping takes. I predicted Franklin to beat Hendo, which i thought he did, but it was pretty close either way. I think just as in Franklins case, Bisping is the more complete fighter, while Hendo doesnt really seem to be improving and is still the same Hendo from Pride days. The problem is the Pride Hendo is an unsubmittable unknockoutable block of concrete and its very hard to beat a concrete block. I think just about anyone has the same chances against Hendo- if they can keep it on their feet and push the pace they can edge out a discision.

im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor.

On July 07 2009 16:52 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 09:58 Baal wrote:   On July 07 2009 09:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven. Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there. Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate. Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ. When coleman fought fedor he was on steroids and much younger, and he didnt really put a good fight imo. Granted he seemed to fight a different Fedor, but he did better then either Sylvia or Arlovski. Coleman is really one of the greatests heavyweights, its just too bad he was stuck in Hammerhouse for so long.

one of the greatest heavyweights? what are you talking about he has a 16-9 record FFS !, the only good fighter he beat in his entire career was Vovchanchyn, the rest were all mediocre.

Brock Lesnar > Frank Mir (both suck)
Georges St. Pierre > Thiago Alves
Dan Henderson > Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch >. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama < Alan Belcher

other interesting fights:

Stephan Bonnar > Mark Coleman
Jim Miller < Mac Danzig

On July 07 2009 20:05 Stim_Abuser wrote: im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor.

why would anyone be excited over a shogun fight? he still hasnt proven shit and looks horrible

On July 07 2009 20:33 TT1 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 20:05 Stim_Abuser wrote: im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor. why would anyone be excited over a shogun fight? he still hasnt proven shit and looks horrible

go fuck yourself with a cactus. he looked great in the lidell fight. not only do i think hes back to pride form i think hes better. his footwork and headwork and defense was better then ive seen it. lyotos gonna get pwned.

are you sure enough to put money on it?

considering that the odds are probably be atleast 250+ for machida, it might not be a bad bet.

On July 07 2009 20:33 TT1 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 20:05 Stim_Abuser wrote: im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor. why would anyone be excited over a shogun fight? he still hasnt proven shit and looks horrible

I'm on this train, I don't care how "good" he was 7 years ago, he looks nothing more then just average. I lost a TON of respect for him in that coleman fight

On July 07 2009 20:20 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 16:52 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 07 2009 09:58 Baal wrote:   On July 07 2009 09:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven. Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there. Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate. Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ. When coleman fought fedor he was on steroids and much younger, and he didnt really put a good fight imo. Granted he seemed to fight a different Fedor, but he did better then either Sylvia or Arlovski. Coleman is really one of the greatests heavyweights, its just too bad he was stuck in Hammerhouse for so long. one of the greatest heavyweights? what are you talking about he has a 16-9 record FFS !, the only good fighter he beat in his entire career was Vovchanchyn, the rest were all mediocre.

im sorry if i was unclear i meant natural ability wise not performance wise.

wheres a good site to watch the old UFC matches?

On July 07 2009 20:05 Stim_Abuser wrote: im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor.

same here, will be a sick fight, hope he has improved his cardio

On July 07 2009 20:58 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 20:33 TT1 wrote:   On July 07 2009 20:05 Stim_Abuser wrote: im more excited for shogun/lyoto then i am for any other fight ever i think. right there with cropcop vs fedor. why would anyone be excited over a shogun fight? he still hasnt proven shit and looks horrible I'm on this train, I don't care how "good" he was 7 years ago, he looks nothing more then just average. I lost a TON of respect for him in that coleman fight

what do you mean "good" , he was the best 205 pounder in the world back in pride

So last night my friends and i went to this brazilian steakhouse called Texas De Brazil in south vegas. We show up and are in the waiting area to get a table and i see vinny magalhaes from TUF. one of the guys im with is 6'6 235, a college bball player, really sick athlete and in good shape. hes kind of a loudmouth and says anything to anyone. the plan was to walk up to him and say "hey hook, you see this guy over here, he owes me 10k and wont pay wtf hes such a prick it pisses me off". hook likes to just punch people so he actually had a decent chance against vinny!

but before i could start a brawl in the waiting area vitor belfort walks by me. i changed my mind and said "ok i was joking dont start anything theyre professional fighters". if hook started a fight and vitor finished it hook would no longer be among the living.

if you want to go see brazilian fighters and eat the shit out of awesome portugese food go to this place. it was pretty awesome i ate so goddamn much. i kind of expect thiago alves to go there after the weighin. id venture a guess and say i ate about 3 pounds of meat/salad bar/fried bananas there.

rofl belfort is a fucking beast

Lesnar
GSP
Hendo
Fitch
Japanese man

I can't wait.....

On July 08 2009 12:35 Daut wrote: So last night my friends and i went to this brazilian steakhouse called Texas De Brazil in south vegas. We show up and are in the waiting area to get a table and i see vinny magalhaes from TUF. one of the guys im with is 6'6 235, a college bball player, really sick athlete and in good shape. hes kind of a loudmouth and says anything to anyone. the plan was to walk up to him and say "hey hook, you see this guy over here, he owes me 10k and wont pay wtf hes such a prick it pisses me off". hook likes to just punch people so he actually had a decent chance against vinny! but before i could start a brawl in the waiting area vitor belfort walks by me. i changed my mind and said "ok i was joking dont start anything theyre professional fighters". if hook started a fight and vitor finished it hook would no longer be among the living. if you want to go see brazilian fighters and eat the shit out of awesome portugese food go to this place. it was pretty awesome i ate so goddamn much. i kind of expect thiago alves to go there after the weighin. id venture a guess and say i ate about 3 pounds of meat/salad bar/fried bananas there.

looooooooooooooooool

this is going to be siiiiiiiiiiick

On July 07 2009 22:26 kaisr wrote: wheres a good site to watch the old UFC matches?

I wouldn't call it good but it's good enough that it exists at all: www.mma-core.com

The Mir vs Lesnar fight was as exciting a 90 seconds as you'll ever see in sports. Mir, who not only fights in the Octagon, but is also director of security at the Spearmint Rhino Gentlemen's Club in Las Vegas

FrinkX you better behave if u still like ur legs.

did gsp really give dana white a portrait of himself as a gift at the press conference? LMAO

fuck me frank mir is ripped

Jesus..........didn't expect that from Mir, the fats all gone lol

link or pic?

pics will be on sherdog within the next 12hours ...

didnt see it so far since i missed the weight ins
but everyone says Mir is in pehnomenal shape

damn not betting for mir at +200 doesnt seems like a bad idea

On July 08 2009 20:10 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 22:26 kaisr wrote: wheres a good site to watch the old UFC matches? I wouldn't call it good but it's good enough that it exists at all: www.mma-core.com

www.mmashare.com also


Yeah Mir is pretty ripped, about as much as one of Lesnar's legs.

tho I almost always root for the underdog I'm not betting on it
I won't ever forget seeing Lesnar training and running with a log as thick as he was over his shoulder like it was nothing

like Mir said, his best chance is his experience

i fully expect to see mir do the aoki butt scoot across the ring and try to get a hold of one of brocks legs. at least i would if i were him.

hahaha

hahaha i love aoki

On July 10 2009 22:56 ToTehEastSide wrote: hahaha

ROFL

put another 1000 on bonnar coleman looked pretty bad

and 300 on hendo at -200

ive never done sportsbetting before, but i wanna get some money on some of these. what are some good sites for USA sportsbettors?

for all your watching needs.

On July 11 2009 05:51 Nazgul wrote: put another 1000 on bonnar coleman looked pretty bad and 300 on hendo at -200

this is ur biggest MMA bet right?

bonnar vs coleman is free money

On July 11 2009 10:04 WhyYouKickMyDog wrote: ive never done sportsbetting before, but i wanna get some money on some of these. what are some good sites for USA sportsbettors?

www.bestfightodds.com

On July 11 2009 12:05 Baal wrote: this is ur biggest MMA bet right?

online yea some bigger ones in vegas

On July 10 2009 22:39 Daut wrote: i fully expect to see mir do the aoki butt scoot across the ring and try to get a hold of one of brocks legs. at least i would if i were him.

are helmets allowed? If so, butt scoot plus helmet.

the event might be streamed here : http://www.livestream.com/solinren

asdf

bonnar should hang them up so useless

what a ballsack shot

fml I found the stream awhile ago but I misclicked pause instead of mute to grind the time out and now its full as well as being down a few hundred

BOOOOOOO

anyone know an open stream?
I'll love u forever

http://www.livestream.com/solinren TL stream

korean commentary

mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1

best quality and stream possibility i think

u are the man <3333

mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1

Wow the bisping henderson fight was the most disgusting thing ive ever seen ever.

http://www.livestream.com/solinren back up

TT1 you didnt look before you post do you? lol moron.

i didnt i just copy pasted lol

so why can't you post a link at solin? When it crashed I posted a different link and everyone went ape shit

gsp's takedowns are tooooooooooooooo strong

gsp legend in the making, after alves there really are no next challengers the coming ~2 years

Looks like he got a little bit of Alves' sweat on him.

is it just me or did they skip jon fitch and paul thiago

Damn, Frank Mir's face is never gonna look the same.

ty for the stream links guys!

On July 11 2009 23:05 Bullshit wrote: is it just me or did they skip jon fitch and paul thiago

I wonder wtf happened??? Backstage injury?

good thing frank mir got what he deserved

its part of the sport man, all the fighters trash talk to hype the fight up but then afterwards they show respect to each other.. brock lesnar is a redneck piece of shit who still thinks hes in the wwe

this pan out exactly as i have expected.
Brock vs Mir went to the letter. I dunno where this myth of Mir having great jiu jitsu came from. This is like the Couture hype we lived through a year ago.
GSP vs Thiago was dissapointing. GSP is turning into ASilva/a really really good blanket. But he usually takes looong time to warm up so lets write it off on injury. I also wish he would stop being afraid to throw punches, fear is not somehting great champions are made of. Also hoping that will pass with more time getting inbetween present and Serra loss.
Bisping vs Hendo, well it was pretty much "if he doesnt get overhand righted" haha. The problem is tho that he was pretty bad in stand up so Hendo nodoubt would take a UD even if it dint end with a KO.
Bonnar vs Coleman. Yeah pretty much.... Who is Bonnar?

disappointed akiyama didnt finish and i missed his fight coming home late.;

why the fuck is paulo thiago vs jon fitch last

they do that sometimes

bah. i dont wanna see some guy admit defeat and start hugging each other after a fight, i wanna see some fire in those fights! lol
muhammad ali was most egomaniacal, cocky and arrogant motherfucking fighter ever, but people still loved him for it

omg lesnar is hilarious that was awesome

gsp is a beast obv

I really liked akiyami although I thought he lost the fight.... fitch vs thiago is boring as hell

any replayss??

On July 11 2009 21:07 Nazgul wrote: asdf bonnar should hang them up so useless

lol, after you said you put 1k on Bonnar I did the same thing, didn't see the fight, was he that bad?

Imma go home and drink some COORS LIGHT caz BUD LIGHT aint payin' me shit

And then after that I might just go jump on top of my wife

i beat frank mur then i drink some kurs light

n a night when he stood alone atop the UFC heavyweight division, Brock Lesnar’s behavior -- not his destructive, one-sided victory against Frank Mir -- was the subject of post-fight discussion on Saturday at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

Lesnar unified the heavyweight championship in only his fifth professional appearance, as he bullied his way to a technical knockout against Mir -- the only man to defeat him -- in the UFC 100 main event. His tirade afterward -- which included a low blow to the UFC’s primary sponsor, Bud Light, waving his middle fingers at the audience, taunting Mir and exposing plans for a post-fight sex romp with his wife -- drew the ire of UFC President Dana White.

The 32-year-old Lesnar claimed he was headed out to drink a Coors Light because Bud Light would not pay him any money. One of the UFC’s highest-paid fighters, he made $450,000 in disclosed pay for his TKO victory against hall of famer Randy Couture at UFC 91 in November.

“I was blown away,” White said. “I don’t think in the history of the UFC we’ve had anybody do that. It’s not who we are, and, to be honest, it’s not who he is. You hang with these guys personally, and you get to know them. If he was a dick, I’d tell you right now this guy is a psycho and I don’t know what I’m going to do with him. He’s not. He’s a smart guy. The sponsorship thing was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.”

Lesnar’s antics drudged up memories of his days as a World Wrestling Entertainment superstar, when showboating and pushing the envelope of taste were encouraged and profitable. White claimed he confronted the apologetic champion in his dressing room after he left the Octagon.

“Brock went so far over the top, I can’t even put it into words,” White said. “WWE -- that’s what it is. We had a talk. We talked like men, and he said he was sorry. He said, ‘I’m embarrassed by what I said.’ I take his word for it this time.”

HAHA, lets see how this develops.
Lets hope he puts White in his place.

On July 11 2009 23:36 SfydjkLm wrote: this pan out exactly as i have expected. Brock vs Mir went to the letter. I dunno where this myth of Mir having great jiu jitsu came from. This is like the Couture hype we lived through a year ago. GSP vs Thiago was dissapointing. GSP is turning into ASilva/a really really good blanket. But he usually takes looong time to warm up so lets write it off on injury. I also wish he would stop being afraid to throw punches, fear is not somehting great champions are made of. Also hoping that will pass with more time getting inbetween present and Serra loss. Bisping vs Hendo, well it was pretty much "if he doesnt get overhand righted" haha. The problem is tho that he was pretty bad in stand up so Hendo nodoubt would take a UD even if it dint end with a KO. Bonnar vs Coleman. Yeah pretty much.... Who is Bonnar?

nothing you predicted happened. you predicted bisping > hendo. you said alves gsp would be close. and you made no prediction on mir lesnar.

honestly get the fuck out of here with your shit. im tired of you in every single mma thread making no predictions but maybe one ( which you usually choose the obvious favorite ) then after the fights saying it went exactly how you thought. make you predictions before hand or shut up after.

and i told you not to sleep on coleman naz ;]

you say a lot of things

"go mir by guillotine" that was close :O

On July 12 2009 06:15 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2009 23:36 SfydjkLm wrote: this pan out exactly as i have expected. Brock vs Mir went to the letter. I dunno where this myth of Mir having great jiu jitsu came from. This is like the Couture hype we lived through a year ago. GSP vs Thiago was dissapointing. GSP is turning into ASilva/a really really good blanket. But he usually takes looong time to warm up so lets write it off on injury. I also wish he would stop being afraid to throw punches, fear is not somehting great champions are made of. Also hoping that will pass with more time getting inbetween present and Serra loss. Bisping vs Hendo, well it was pretty much "if he doesnt get overhand righted" haha. The problem is tho that he was pretty bad in stand up so Hendo nodoubt would take a UD even if it dint end with a KO. Bonnar vs Coleman. Yeah pretty much.... Who is Bonnar? nothing you predicted happened. you predicted bisping > hendo. you said alves gsp would be close. and you made no prediction on mir lesnar. honestly get the fuck out of here with your shit. im tired of you in every single mma thread making no predictions but maybe one ( which you usually choose the obvious favorite ) then after the fights saying it went exactly how you thought. make you predictions before hand or shut up after. and i told you not to sleep on coleman naz ;]

i said that pan out as i expected not predicted....
But you do have a problem with reading comprehension. I did predict bisping over hendo. I did not say GSP vs Alves would be close, i said it is tough to predict. And i said Bonnar is not a contender for Coleman.

If you want my unedited on teh record picks- http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc-...ging-1009410/index7.html#post31948605
They are what they are.

not a contender for Coleman? man im with Stym i think you are totally clueless.

I found Lesnar funny as hell. The GSP fight made me feel that I was correct when I stated that he was, in fact, a god. Japan-dude seemed like a really cool guy and wtf was Bisping doing?

On July 11 2009 22:56 Nazgul wrote: Lesnar legend in the making

+1

http://i26.tinypic.com/wt9iki.gif Lol

I'm starting to like Lesnar, if for nothing else than he pisses off these mma-elitist fucktards.

thoughts on card.

lesnar did great, he impressed me with his strength. he has some brutal gnp he looked like old school hughes in this one. I was pretty divided on who would win, and towards the end i thought mir was gonna win. Lesnar showed me the error or my ways. He's gonna be really tough to beat. I'd like to see him against another contender though before i'm ready to crown him as the best there is. I dont' know who's next for him, all the other good HWs seem to be tied up.

gsp vs alves went how i expected. I actually called gsp to win by stoppage in the 3rd/4th round. Alves had some serious cardio to look dangerous even until the final bell. That guy is gonna be #2 in the division for a while gl ANYONE getting a shot with him in the way. 170 is like the most impossible division right now. Fitch/Thiago/GSP rofl good fucking luck.

hendo vs bisping, big suprise (not)

bonnar vs coleman. I expected coleman to be able to take him down but i didn't expect him to take him down in the 3rd round... Bonnar sucks and Coleman showed heart. Good show coleman! Old man powers!

why arent you on msn

Im impressed with lesnar too he looked much better than before his GnP is unparalelled he can hit so hard in such short distances.

However i think this fight exposed some serious serious holes in Lesnar stand up exchange, on round 1 when Mir briefly engages with him Lesnar tries to get out in a sloppy "wrestler" way by turning (instead of stepping back or something) totally bent with his head exposed, really awful panic move.

On the 2nd round is also very evident that Lesnar panics as soon as he feels a punch so i think he will probably be raped when he is forced to strike with another big heavy weight.

so glad that stupid britsh chode bisping got owned so hard

On July 12 2009 15:25 TimDawg wrote: so glad that stupid britsh chode bisping got owned so hard

qft

he was lights out and i love how hendo got another fking shot in. its even sicker when someone doesnt tlak shit and just says.."ima take care of business" exactly how hendo did and carries himself.

On July 07 2009 16:52 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2009 09:58 Baal wrote:   On July 07 2009 09:36 SfydjkLm wrote: Alves vs GSP is pretty tough to predict, both guys are too green to make a correct assessment of their actual skillset(not to mention they keep on constantly improving). People are overstating Alvess size advantage cos GSP himself is huuuge. And judging from relative Hughes bouts they are about the same size. But it does play a factor because Alves probably hits harder and GSPs chin is yet unproven. Shogun vs Lyoto. Pretty important bout that will test both fighters legitimacy and tell us whether Shogun is really finally back and how does Lyoto look when he is put out of his element. Betting on Shogun is ridiculous +EV at those odds, obviously if hes back in Pride-grade shape he is the favorite to win. And with all the time he had to get up to speed, i think the chances are good that hes already there. Coleman vs Bonnar, i really dont see why people dismiss Coleman. Bonnar is a nobody and Coleman is the dude who put up a good fight against Fedor twice. If Coleman tries to get in shape he will absolutely dominate. Brock vs Mir. WTFBBQ. When coleman fought fedor he was on steroids and much younger, and he didnt really put a good fight imo. Granted he seemed to fight a different Fedor, but he did better then either Sylvia or Arlovski. Coleman is really one of the greatests heavyweights, its just too bad he was stuck in Hammerhouse for so long. I also forgot Bisping vs Hendo, which i think Bisping takes. I predicted Franklin to beat Hendo, which i thought he did, but it was pretty close either way. I think just as in Franklins case, Bisping is the more complete fighter, while Hendo doesnt really seem to be improving and is still the same Hendo from Pride days. The problem is the Pride Hendo is an unsubmittable unknockoutable block of concrete and its very hard to beat a concrete block. I think just about anyone has the same chances against Hendo- if they can keep it on their feet and push the pace they can edge out a discision.

looks like you said bisping takes it.

its just annoying every thread i see you in you come in like you knew how everything would play out and blah blah blah but you never actually say it before the fight. if youre gonna brag about what you thought was gonna happen after it happened then post your predictions here so the rest of us can make loads of money on your infallible mma knowledge.

On July 12 2009 06:27 Nazgul wrote: you say a lot of things "go mir by guillotine" that was close :O

it was

and i was laughed at for my coleman pick ;]

i agree with stim. SfydjkLm seems to get this retarded complex about his mma knowledge. SfydjkLm aren't you a huge bj penn hater?

Sfyjdklm is a passionate fan though and i guess i'd rather have that then no fans at all =D

lesnar looked really good. i think he would be a decent to big favorite against cain, nog, randy, mir, gonzaga, dos santos, etc, and an underdog to carwin right now. carwin is as big/strong, possibly a better wrestler, and a better boxer, so if carwin could keep it standing he could outbox lesnar and maybe he could even take brock down and put brock in a spot hes never been. carwin also showed some really good instincts on his back vs gonzaga briefly, plus he trains with greg jackson so i would pick carwin over lesnar, but god lesnar looked insane.

his takedowns are unreal. his armpin, hammer away with huge gnp shots is amazing and would really suffocate almost any bjj'er. fedor is still a favorite over lesnar, but god i would not be surprised if lesnar did beat fedor if they fought. id say hes probably the 2nd or 3rd biggest challenge for fedor out of anyone right now along with arlovski (assuming hes not done), machida and overeem.


gsp will never lose at 170. just move up and fight people at 185 and then come back to defend in february, then go back up to 185 for a silva. not worth it for him to be fighting blowouts constantly, he is just out of everyones league.


hendo vs bisping was obv. 1 min into first round i was like why the fuck is bisping circling towards hendos right hand. what happens? he avoids a left, circles towards bispings right hand and gets KTFO. nice job bisping.


gonna dl/watch a bunch of fights now. i hear danzig vs miller was AWESOME

i honestly think cain can beat brock. i mean brock is huge but i think his wrestling is overrated. he struggled with randy. and brocks standup is still really bad as baal pointed out. his foot movement is terrible and hes pretty stiff. and you can tell he is still very inexperienced. he panics. and i think cain would gas him. brock was pretty tired vs randy. i mean with all that muscle youre gonna gas and cains cardio is pretty beastly.

i think cain would beat him. bout it in the ufc though.

outside i think fedor maybe arlovski

his wrestling is not overrated. randy couture is an olympic grecco beast master who has more MMA experience then like everyone.

it was brocks 4th fight.... I mean is he the best wrestling in mma no? so yes in that respect he's overrated. but i think he's rated just about right that he's probably the best wrestler in the HW division.

yeah i think tons of guys could beat him but he still could beat them.

On July 12 2009 16:43 Fox wrote: his wrestling is not overrated. randy couture is an olympic grecco beast master who has more MMA experience then like everyone. it was brocks 4th fight.... I mean is he the best wrestling in mma no? so yes in that respect he's overrated. but i think he's rated just about right that he's probably the best wrestler in the HW division. yeah i think tons of guys could beat him but he still could beat them.

did you see randy in that fight? he had old man body. not to mention brock had 55-60 pounds on him. no doubt randys a great wrestler but if brock struggles with a wrestler in randys condition i think big also well accomplished wrestlers like cain and carwin will be able to do pretty well vs him in the wrestling department. if they can keep it on the feet they should be able to outstrike brock. i think cain has a better chance than carwin because carwin is the slowest man alive. looks like hes punching underwater.

his gnp was absolutely frightening in both rounds but mir may not be the best matchup to beat brock. carwin vs brock seems like it would be an amazing fight while cain vs brock could also be pretty good. no where near time to start putting brock on the same level as fedor though.

alves really impressed me vs gsp. yes gsp won and dominated etc. etc. but alves showed great poise on the ground and had no cardio problems despite the pace and control gsp showed. a good year or two of concentrating solely on his sprawl/wrestling and gsp might be in some real trouble.

fitch fought weird vs thiago but he probably considered a wrestling/grappling match to be safer than a standup fight, especially after thiago put koscheck away.

bispings strat vs hendo was pretty lol-worthy, circling towards hendo's right hand should be grounds for an immediate loss imo

belcher dwarfed akiyama but i still think akiyama won. he was landing more and had more control on the ground, belcher had his moments but akiyama was definitely more crisp...i do think he's going to need to put on a bit more weight if he wants to be really competitive at 185, not too much but definitely a little bit more

proud of dhk and jon jones, both got solid/dominating victories over good opposition.

not sure if anyone has read this article or not but its pretty interesting.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug...nar071209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The greatest beneficiary of each Lesnar snarl, however, lives in Stary Oskol, Russia, a man named Fedor Emelianenko who is considered the No. 1 heavyweight (if not pound-for-pound fighter) in the world. If anyone has the knockout power to stop the 6-3, 265-pound Lesnar, it’s Emelianenko.

Fedor doesn’t fight in the UFC though. He’s with its rival promotion, Affliction. He’ll fight Aug. 1 in Anaheim, Calif., in what is the last match of his contract. Affliction is hoping to re-sign him until 2012, but the UFC will come hard after him. More now then ever. And that means money, big money.

“Eventually Fedor is going to be here,” White said. “I want Fedor. We’ll end up getting that deal done and then we’ll do Brock vs. Fedor and we’ll do a huge fight.”

and yea about bisping circle to his left. WHAT THE FUCK? probably the dumbest thing ive ever seen. its like pulling guard against fedor.

On July 12 2009 16:37 Daut wrote: gsp will never lose at 170. just move up and fight people at 185 and then come back to defend in february, then go back up to 185 for a silva. not worth it for him to be fighting blowouts constantly, he is just out of everyones league.

man that would be such an awesome fight

Should GSP move up to 185lbs period ,not just to fight Silva but others as well? If so should he make his way up the ranking at 185 by fighting a weaker opponents before the champ. Bisping maybe. I can just see him getting GnPounded by GSP. Any1 else love that 2nd punch by Hendo?

Silva vs GSP would be beyond amazing.....

On July 12 2009 16:40 Stim_Abuser wrote: i honestly think cain can beat brock. i mean brock is huge but i think his wrestling is overrated. he struggled with randy. and brocks standup is still really bad as baal pointed out. his foot movement is terrible and hes pretty stiff. and you can tell he is still very inexperienced. he panics. and i think cain would gas him. brock was pretty tired vs randy. i mean with all that muscle youre gonna gas and cains cardio is pretty beastly. i think cain would beat him. bout it in the ufc though. outside i think fedor maybe arlovski

Pretty sure Arlovski's glass chin combined with brocks power would mean insta KO if he got hit once.

On July 13 2009 22:24 Faruk1 wrote: Should GSP move up to 185lbs period ,not just to fight Silva but others as well? If so should he make his way up the ranking at 185 by fighting a weaker opponents before the champ. Bisping maybe. I can just see him getting GnPounded by GSP. Any1 else love that 2nd punch by Hendo?

hmm I mean itd be better for tv if he just took on silva but id think hed have to face some competition before getting a shot just like everyone else


and yes hendo's second shot + comments afterwards were fucking priceless