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DooMeR   United States. Jun 29 2009 20:41. Posts 8564

so ive been hanging around the rio and playing some live cash and see everest poker everywhere.

What are the thoughts of people that have played there?

i am curious. what rakeback is like and stuff and the softness of the games

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nolan   Ireland. Jun 29 2009 21:53. Posts 6205

isnt it non usa

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DooMeR   United States. Jun 29 2009 21:58. Posts 8564

how can that be.... really? :[ why are they advertising in WSOP then

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SirBlotto   Germany. Jun 29 2009 21:59. Posts 1270

it´s non usa sry guys
it´s mainly a french poker site, my thoughts:its soft as hell. didnt play there, cause the software tilts me. it´s way slower as ps or ftp.


VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jun 29 2009 23:25. Posts 5127

its full of bumhunters and shortstackers

and no rakeback

and software sucks

I rather recommend Ipoker if u are non USA

:D 

careface_   Canada. Jun 30 2009 01:43. Posts 788

you can play from the USA but you cannot register if you are an american. I played there while at Vegas, np.

They advertise because the WSOP are getting more and more coverage in Europe, and they also want to be in the first row if poker becomes OK again in USA.

It used to be by far the nicest site out there, but now it's so-so. You get mad fishs that you don't get anywhere else, crazy french and italians retards that are by far the stupidest persons i've ever seen.

But the games over 1-2 are pretty nitty except for that casual fish now, it's full of bad nit regs now.

Rakeback is approx 25% (loyalty program, not rakeback) you can get an extra 15% on the side, but it's not legal.


Btw, I've played there 3 years and I can tell you the administration of Everest is as brain dead as the french and italians I talked to you about a few lines back. They are the worst, they are so stupid and so fucking clueless of how to run a poker site, it will make you life tilt. It used to be 10bb minimum buy-ins, EVERYBODY been complaining for 3 years about it, and they changed it about 2 months ago, saying that they have listened to the community! Yeah right, they are so stupid, software has like 3-4 big glitchs and everybody been complaining for ever and each time you tell them, they say : Nice, first time we hear about it, we will be working on it! That was 18 months ago.

Also, my friend is VIP there, and he wanted to register for 6 WSOP Events for 10k total, he asked Everest 2 months prior to the WSOP and they said, yes we will register you to all of them and it's cool you can pay with your Everest monies and everything. They confirmed it was going to be done without any worries.

Arriving in Vegas he emails them to make sure everything is ok and they say : Sorry we will not be able to register you to any Events, we apologize.

he told them he will never play there again and Everest didn't compensate him with anything or do anything about it. He's a 2-4 regular playing 60k hands per month


Highcard   Canada. Jun 30 2009 01:44. Posts 5428

weird that they are blowing all the advertising money

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jun 30 2009 02:05. Posts 5127

Bigger and more fish on Ipoker than Everest imo

:D 

Sennpu   Canada. Jun 30 2009 03:24. Posts 1960

i have 20% rakeback there ._ . it's european so full of frenchies <3 pretty fish XD

then she ask me my qualities n bad qualities. so i tell her truth and she kinda laugh at me lol. then i ask her for hers and she gtg. i think it going ok. -Floofy 

MadeInPolanD   Poland. Jun 30 2009 04:37. Posts 1383

you can rebuy after a hand ( in which you lost ) just for couple seconds ( i mean you can click rebuy in precisely like 3 seconds when chips went to a winner ) and then you have to wait till next hand to rebuy

Make it rain$$$ 

gororokgororok   Netherlands. Jun 30 2009 05:53. Posts 3941

what about 1/2 and 2/4?


Patrocle   France. Jul 04 2009 23:58. Posts 623


  On June 30 2009 04:53 gororokgororok wrote:
what about 1/2 and 2/4?



frankly, it's harder than FTP nowadays.
(lots of tables are 6 regs with one or two not that good, but still not to be considered as fish).
There are a lot of Tagfishes-breakevenish players from netherlands, but I don't
think you can make that much money out of them...

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Fayth    Canada. Jul 05 2009 00:16. Posts 10085


  On June 30 2009 02:26 RaSZi wrote:
everest probably has the toughest 5-10 game online from what I hear from my friends.. mostly dutch guys playing and they are all better than you.. rakeback is not that interesting either



huh yeah

right

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street_hooker   Andorra. Jul 05 2009 00:18. Posts 505


  On July 04 2009 22:58 Patrocle wrote:
Show nested quote +



frankly, it's harder than FTP nowadays.
(lots of tables are 6 regs with one or two not that good, but still not to be considered as fish).
There are a lot of Tagfishes-breakevenish players from netherlands, but I don't
think you can make that much money out of them...
sounds like ftp micros


chris   United States. Jul 05 2009 08:20. Posts 5511

sounds like lex wants everyone to stay away from his everest poker 5/10 fish


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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jul 05 2009 08:40. Posts 5127

Well he is right, same people playing 5-10 on Everest as 25-50 same site.

:D 

nolan   Ireland. Jul 05 2009 12:02. Posts 6205

and that never happens on ftp / stars?

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Patrocle   France. Jul 05 2009 16:00. Posts 623

Oh, and I forgot to mention, Everest is rigged:

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TimDawg    United States. Jul 05 2009 16:06. Posts 10197

i dont really see how everest could be tougher than stars or ftp

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gororokgororok   Netherlands. Jul 05 2009 16:34. Posts 3941

sick graph


Patrocle   France. Jul 05 2009 17:21. Posts 623


  On July 05 2009 15:06 TimDawg wrote:
i dont really see how everest could be tougher than stars or ftp



lots of tables filled only with regs of NL400 - NL2000, like Zopopop, Fatima, etc...
and you're not making that much money with only regulars at the tables.
I never seen that on FTP NL 400 (dunno about Stars)

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Patrocle   France. Jul 05 2009 17:24. Posts 623


  On July 05 2009 15:34 gororokgororok wrote:
sick graph



Poker is about eating shit, and I'm pretty good at taking bad beats/setup
One day I'll win all those stupid all-ins, and I'll be rich

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Patrocle   France. Jul 05 2009 19:53. Posts 623

The graph improved a lot since last bump



and in blinds (cause I moved down to NL200 and so the graph is a mix of 200 and 400):





cant complain, cause life is good, but frankly, poker gods, now you can find another victim, plz

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TimDawg    United States. Jul 05 2009 19:59. Posts 10197


  On July 05 2009 16:21 Patrocle wrote:
Show nested quote +



lots of tables filled only with regs of NL400 - NL2000, like Zopopop, Fatima, etc...
and you're not making that much money with only regulars at the tables.
I never seen that on FTP NL 400 (dunno about Stars)
well i mean 2/4 on stars is pretty damn soft imo (as i would imagine it is across other sites) and 3/6 has its fair share of fish as well but 5/10+ seems pretty fucking tough

there seems to be a lot of really really good regulars at those stakes

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Patrocle   France. Jul 06 2009 05:49. Posts 623


  On July 05 2009 18:59 TimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +

well i mean 2/4 on stars is pretty damn soft imo (as i would imagine it is across other sites) and 3/6 has its fair share of fish as well but 5/10+ seems pretty fucking tough

there seems to be a lot of really really good regulars at those stakes



Ty for the explanation.
Do you usually see regs of 10/20 playing 2/4 on stars ?

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 06 2009 13:12. Posts 34312

lol @ everest being thougher than stars, like somebody is going to buy that shit.

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Patrocle   France. Jul 06 2009 14:44. Posts 623


  On July 06 2009 12:12 Baal wrote:
lol @ everest being thougher than stars, like somebody is going to buy that shit.



When was the last time you played at Everest ? I know that games used to be sick soft with lots of monkeys,
now you have to outplay nitty tagfishes, which is clearly not the same game.
Frankly NL400 is easier on Tilt than on Everest those days. Dunno for stars.
Maybe you prefer playing against tagfishes, but imho, my winrate decreases a lot when tables
don't offer any droolers to milk, and I think this is a general fact true for the whole poker
community

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 06 2009 15:00. Posts 34312

Tag fishes are dead money while they might not spew you can just play perfect postflop and valuebet them to death or make easy strong folds.

On stars the average table will be pretty much like:

Seat1: WizardofAhs (20bb rat holer)
Seat2: redargoe
Seat3: 20buckSpin
Seat4: You
Seat5: 0Human0
Seat6: JulyShort (20bb rat holer)


So yeah, id really like to play against tag fishes on 1knl.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro OnlineLast edit: 06/07/2009 15:01

Patrocle   France. Jul 06 2009 16:06. Posts 623


  On July 06 2009 14:00 Baal wrote:
Tag fishes are dead money while they might not spew you can just play perfect postflop and valuebet them to death or make easy strong folds.



I agree with you, and that's why I make money out of them
But I still win far less money than when there were 1 or 2 tagfishes and 3/4 droolers like 1 year ago.


  On stars the average table will be pretty much like:

Seat1: WizardofAhs (20bb rat holer)
Seat2: redargoe
Seat3: 20buckSpin
Seat4: You
Seat5: 0Human0
Seat6: JulyShort (20bb rat holer)


So yeah, id really like to play against tag fishes on 1knl.



I dont know a lot about stars as I said earlier, never really played on this site.
But how the hell can you play at a table with 2 ratholers ?????????
Noone starts 50bb games on Stars ?
Personnally i always start them on Everest and they fill very fast.

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

Patrocle   France. Jul 06 2009 16:25. Posts 623


  On June 30 2009 00:43 careface_ wrote:
you can play from the USA but you cannot register if you are an american. I played there while at Vegas, np.

They advertise because the WSOP are getting more and more coverage in Europe, and they also want to be in the first row if poker becomes OK again in USA.

It used to be by far the nicest site out there, but now it's so-so. You get mad fishs that you don't get anywhere else, crazy french and italians retards that are by far the stupidest persons i've ever seen.

But the games over 1-2 are pretty nitty except for that casual fish now, it's full of bad nit regs now.

Rakeback is approx 25% (loyalty program, not rakeback) you can get an extra 15% on the side, but it's not legal.


Btw, I've played there 3 years and I can tell you the administration of Everest is as brain dead as the french and italians I talked to you about a few lines back. They are the worst, they are so stupid and so fucking clueless of how to run a poker site, it will make you life tilt. It used to be 10bb minimum buy-ins, EVERYBODY been complaining for 3 years about it, and they changed it about 2 months ago, saying that they have listened to the community! Yeah right, they are so stupid, software has like 3-4 big glitchs and everybody been complaining for ever and each time you tell them, they say : Nice, first time we hear about it, we will be working on it! That was 18 months ago.

Also, my friend is VIP there, and he wanted to register for 6 WSOP Events for 10k total, he asked Everest 2 months prior to the WSOP and they said, yes we will register you to all of them and it's cool you can pay with your Everest monies and everything. They confirmed it was going to be done without any worries.

Arriving in Vegas he emails them to make sure everything is ok and they say : Sorry we will not be able to register you to any Events, we apologize.

he told them he will never play there again and Everest didn't compensate him with anything or do anything about it. He's a 2-4 regular playing 60k hands per month



what's his nick ?
pm me if you dont want to out.

An apple a day keeps the doctor away 

 



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