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another good point is odds are one of them have some kind of pocket pair. if you know he has JJ do you raise, call or push? |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 01 2009 22:14. Posts 20070 | | |
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another good point is odds are one of them have some kind of pocket pair. if you know he has JJ do you raise, call or push? |
if we can physically see he has JJ this isn't a close descion |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 01 2009 22:20. Posts 20070 | | |
5-bet folding was my first thought, but after more thinking it's a preety bad option in a 6-max game where people shoving ranges are not KK+, would work much better if this was full ring or villians were known nits, folding would be a preety big mistake if we are unsure of their shoving range.
It's super close either way, this is probably one of those spots where what you do dosn't matter that much in terms of EV, it just comes down to what metagame you want to establish / what varience you are comfortable with |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Jul 02 2009 14:24. Posts 4952 | | |
What about 5bet minraising? |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jul 02 2009 17:25. Posts 8119 | | |
this spot is not a spot you should be asking about in a forum. calling, 5bet/folding, 5bet/calling, folding are all viable options "depending". |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Jul 02 2009 17:29. Posts 8119 | | |
if u feel u have to fold then there are probably good reasons for that feeling and you should fold |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 02 2009 17:43. Posts 20070 | | |
yeah you can do anything you want here really, but if you feel that your not making money continuing in the hand, then trust yourself and fold it cause you are prob correct |
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Rekrul   United States. Jul 03 2009 04:49. Posts 3338 | | |
raszi you just dont get it we don't want the fish to improve WTF |
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YoMeR   United States. Jul 03 2009 05:12. Posts 12438 | | | |
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Rekrul   United States. Jul 03 2009 05:48. Posts 3338 | | | |
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JonnyCosMo   United States. Jul 03 2009 07:15. Posts 7292 | | |
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Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:20 [vital]Myth wrote:
type "LOL" followed by some censored word in chat
and then 5bet to 670 and call shove |
jesus christ, can you get unmodded or something?
stop giving 'im cool I play superlag andf everything is standard' advice.. every time you post it makes me realize people do not necessarly improve through coaching.
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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 03 2009 11:14. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On July 02 2009 18:51 RaSZi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 19:20 [vital]Myth wrote:
type "LOL" followed by some censored word in chat
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jesus christ, can you get unmodded or something?
stop giving 'im cool I play superlag andf everything is standard' advice.. every time you post it makes me realize people do not necessarly improve through coaching.
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except that for the right or wrong reasons myth is 100% right here, and lol if you start folding here vs Human vs his trash in here you will get trampled... wait.. you DO get trampled. |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jul 03 2009 15:56. Posts 20070 | | |
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raszi you just dont get it we don't want the fish to improve WTF |
discussing hands within a small community is almost meaningless, gotta come after these ridicilous poker traning sites |
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Rekrul   United States. Jul 03 2009 21:21. Posts 3338 | | |
trampled....lol
silly mexicans |
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Just wanted to say that I got inspired by tomson in this topic and managed to win a pot of 4444 € vs a known LPer at 3/6 thanks to it. Thank you. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 06 2009 03:23. Posts 34312 | | |
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Just wanted to say that I got inspired by tomson in this topic and managed to win a pot of 4444 € vs a known LPer at 3/6 thanks to it. Thank you. |
elaborate or gtfo |
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tomson   Poland. Jul 07 2009 08:12. Posts 1982 | | | |
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I and him was deep as hell, some reg was 100bb deep. I raise 99 UTG, reg 3bets from CO or button, I decide that he's a monkey and I want to get it in and the LPer cold4bet to like 150 or something from blinds. I decided it was time to bluff the LPer and get it in with dead money vs monkey so I 4bet to like 450 or something. Regmonkey folds, LPer called and flop comes T9x with two clubs. I cbet like 2/5 pot or so and get shoved on decently fast, obviously snap and holds against AcKc.
Me + LPer has a decent bit of history. Mostly me running hot as hell vs him and winning stuff. He's probably a better pokerplayer though so I try to not get TOO fancy against him too often. Figured that this was a pretty straight forward way to play it since he will never ever bluffshove like +300bb deep and if he just calls I can try to get a showdown and/or own him with position.
Don't think it was really good or anything and I need to do some math on it before I decide if it was a variance fest or just plain bad but it was a fun enough pot.
Also a fairly random connection to this topic, but it was in the back of my head. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 07 2009 21:35. Posts 34312 | | | |
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