KK pf 180bb

$1000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 6: BTN $1624.56 USD
Seat 1: Hero $1844.72 USD
Seat 2: BB $700.50 USD
Seat 3: UTG $2819.75 USD
Seat 4: MP $2097.00 USD
Seat 5: CO $1180.50 USD
Hero posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
BB posts big blind [$10.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
UTG raises [$35.00 USD]
MP folds
CO calls [$35.00 USD]
BTN folds
Hero raises [$185.00 USD]
BB folds
UTG raises [$425.00 USD]
CO folds
Hero

UTG 33/24/1.8 for 270 hands doesn't get out of the line, he is 7ptbb for 230k hands, from which 160k is HU (140k 1/2 and 2/4 )

CO is 78/20 fish

i 3bet bigger cause i think if fish wants to call he will, no matter if my raise is exactly pot and i'm deep with reg and i'm oop

now i get small 4bet... he knows i have to have a hand cause most likely i'll be playing OOP against a fish so i dont think he views my raise as a squeeze and i 3bet his UTG raise ( tho he raises a lot ), i dont know whole lot about him, but with AK he could call cause he's in position against me and fish might join too ( tho 3way w/ AK in the middle wont be his dream, i dont know if he wants to make it bigger pf since we're 180bb deep )
so that leaves what? TT-QQ i think he calls cause otherwise he doesn't 4bet 4value cause he knows i wont put more pf w/o QQ+ that deep, and maybe he makes it small so that i'll call w/ QQ. That leaves KK-AA? and based on that - should i even call this 4bet? cause if i call it's 890$ on flop and effective stacks will be 1,4k$

he could view my hand as AK as i made it a bigger 3bet, but would he try to make me fold it pf? or he wants to outplay me postflop cause he's in position? but we dont have such history and i dont 3bet so much and definately i'm not 3beting UTG raises light from the blinds and he knows that

i know, KK pf and "only" 180bb... am i crazy thinking of folding? how often will a good reg that doesn't go out of the line have a bluff or worse hand than me here?

I think he has AK more often then AA if he's any good at all. KK is obviously unlikely due to card removal, but still possible. Don't think we can fold.

Just because sometimes ppl have aces doesnt mean it justifies a thread -.-

this is hilarious

prob cus im drunk

and prob cus

WHY THE FUCK WOULD U EVER FOLD K'S HERE WTF

why is this a "fake" hand? and its not posted on the site?

cause i'm incognito

i'm drunk too now and i still dont think he 4bets w/ AK here and if he does he folds to a raise

On June 19 2009 20:49 MadeInPolanD wrote: cause i'm incognito i'm drunk too now and i still dont think he 4bets w/ AK here and if he does he folds to a raise

On June 19 2009 20:49 MadeInPolanD wrote: cause i'm incognito i'm drunk too now and i still dont think he 4bets w/ AK here and if he does he folds to a raise

he puts 50bif blinds with AK preflop and folds to a shove? mmm...

consider as if i wrote: "dont think he 4bets w/ AK here" and then i just stopped typing

"he knows i have to have a hand cause most likely i'll be playing OOP against a fish so i dont think he views my raise as a squeeze"

Eeeh, last time i checked we wanted to play oop with KK vs a fish.

And I seriously dont get your reasoning if he has AK and how he views your 3B. Did you consider the fact _if_ he knows what you know? I mean, you know you rarely squeese here but does he? If I would have seen this I wouldnt put you on KK+, and although I havent played NL1k Ive heard its supposed to be more aggressive.

Guys take it easy. In my opinion I think he has AA here or trashy hand, so I would take my time and call, and then try to get him bluff off his stack. But I dont like 5bet-shoving preflop. Then he will call off with AA (you said he was too nitty to get it in with AK QQ) and fold his airballs.

On June 20 2009 15:58 Zanjong wrote: Guys take it easy. In my opinion I think he has AA here or trashy hand, so I would take my time and call, and then try to get him bluff off his stack. But I dont like 5bet-shoving preflop. Then he will call off with AA (you said he was too nitty to get it in with AK QQ) and fold his airballs.

So your saying he wont 4b here with AK because he is too nitty and puts us on a strong range but will somehow have airball in his range to try and get us to fold ???????????????????

On June 20 2009 16:42 EvilSky wrote: Show nested quote + On June 20 2009 15:58 Zanjong wrote: Guys take it easy. In my opinion I think he has AA here or trashy hand, so I would take my time and call, and then try to get him bluff off his stack. But I dont like 5bet-shoving preflop. Then he will call off with AA (you said he was too nitty to get it in with AK QQ) and fold his airballs. So your saying he wont 4b here with AK because he is too nitty and puts us on a strong range but will somehow have airball in his range to try and get us to fold ???????????????????

errr actually that makes pretty good sense, like people wont 4bet hands like JJ while deep cuz they dont feel confortable calling etc, that is called polarization and he is just saying that his range is so polarized that AK is not in his range.

The real question is... if he only plays AA this fast why arent we 3betting any two cards all day long vs him deep?

cause there is a fish in the pot? and i didnt say anything about his calling range while i 3bet him and noone else called his rasie. As i said i think he is a thinking player and not some random reg "i play AK AI pf no matter what happens cause i've seen it on CR"

Well I dont think 180 is deep enough to the point he will be scared to put stacks in w AK, and calling there might be fine to get the fish into the pot and hope to stack him if he has a dominated hand but mostly I dont think he will be getting too much value there with given relative position. I think if he recognizes this as a squeeze spot where your range is really wide to rebluff here with air he will just raise to his AK to take the dead money and get it in if he has to later.

ship and fist pump

binggg blanggg blaowww.
hes gotchya moneyyy nowww.
and hes gunna cash it outtt.
and rub it on his tittieeees.

ok so we have the nuts...

think of creative ways of getting the money in like pushing the raise button.

btw how does a 33/24 doesnt get out of line?.... a guy with those stats and that winrate must get out of line all the god damn time

i just checked: there are 60 hands HU, some 3-handed, some 4-handed

i dunno why this hand keeps getting bumped wtf. i think villain is frequently FOS and i would call and then c/c or c/r the flop depending on texture then proceed from there.

i dont think this guy even has monies.

33/24 I get it in pretty ez

LOL at this thread

You play 1 no limit I guess and added some zero's in it to look cool. This is bull shit. Flat call and fold any flop that has a Q a J or an Ace. There.

ROFL

On July 14 2009 04:37 Rekrul wrote: ROFL