NL200: top set BvB OOP

Submitted by : MadeInPolanD

***** Hand History for Game 485574901141 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 2: volfonix $174.80 USD
Seat 7: Pasijo1 $304.70 USD
Seat 8: Hero $408.95 USD
Seat 9: Mighty BoBo $207.15 USD
Seat 10: soothsay3r $385.60 USD
Hero posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Mighty BoBo posts big blind [$2.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
soothsay3r folds
volfonix folds
Pasijo1 folds
Hero raises [$5.00 USD]
Mighty BoBo calls [$4.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $11.00)

   
Hero bets [$8.00 USD]
Mighty BoBo raises [$25.00 USD]
Hero calls [$17.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $61.00)

   
Hero checks

I'm curious about this hand as well. I also wonder about leading like half pot to give the illusion that you're pot controlling with some marginal hand. He might go nuts and shove and if he calls you could bet river as well. I think that might get you more value. If you lead and he folds i doubt he was going to call a river bet if he checked behind. But i'd like to hear more thoughts on this hand and other ways to play it because it's interesting..

wtf i swear this post only showed your check on the turn and didn't include results.

you can play this in many different ways. your line is fine. ideas: bet turn small(or normal sized bet), reraise flop small, check flop, overbet river...

damn sorry for results for a minute

i probably bet 45 which sets up about a pot sized river shove

dont lead

raaaaisy daisy on the flop. As played bet/call shove or check/shove.

Check shove is pretty standard in this spot

Tank pot,if he calls and river is good card I'd prob CRAI,although it's probally better to blast it

I dont agree with leading at all, what does it accomplish? A good hand is going to be betting anyway, and air is going to have another chance to bluff. The only thing leading does is decrease the chance of getting money from air?

I'm not creative at all and always check/shove in this spot

edit: fml and quit posting while im drunk

edit: fml and quit posting while im drunk

I think 3betting the flop small seems a lot weaker than you flatting

On January 07 2009 12:41 JonnyCosMo wrote: Check shove is pretty standard in this spot

On January 07 2009 12:41 JonnyCosMo wrote: Check shove is pretty standard in this spot

He is gonna keep betting the hands he raised the flop for value with, so leading the turn would make absolutely no sense unless you have some reason to think hes gonna spazz out over it. He does check back his draws some % of the time and gives up with complete air some other %. The question here is if its better to c/r and try to get a call from a draw or c/c and hope he bluffs the river with a missed draw or his complete air.
Now decide what his range is and calculate whats better EV, imo. Also on this board I think he is probably bluffing more than he is raising for value as you have the top set.

well since you flat his flop raise what else can you do cept check/shove?

leading will get you to fold out tons of worse hands. while checking can again induce bluffs sometimes.

and if he checks behind turn then eZ value townage on river.

and if he folds to these lines we can be bluffing him like this in the future cuz we're sick like that.

c/r turn and c/r river if he checks behind

On January 08 2009 09:41 SakiSaki wrote: c/r turn and c/r river if he checks behind

Force fold he will river a flush

i would raise again small amount on flop