NL100 wierd spot squeeze gone wierd.

The original raiser is a monkey running at like 24/14 the caller is new to the table and is unknown.

how would you proceed?
Submitted by : Cro)Deadman

PokerStars Game #23636404702: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/06 15:09:58 ET
Table Asplinda V 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: sigmeister ($15 in chips)
Seat 2: Sharukh10 ($127.50 in chips)
Seat 3: AGFACOLOR ($54.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Speedy1209 ($34 in chips)
Seat 5: dreamer_ss ($169.60 in chips)
Seat 6: maggiejames ($90.50 in chips)
Seat 7: greezex ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 8: mentalo09 ($102.75 in chips)
Seat 9: dandelion169 ($105.50 in chips)
mentalo09: posts small blind $0.50
dandelion169: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to greezex
sigmeister: folds
Sharukh10: folds
AGFACOLOR: folds
Speedy1209: folds
dreamer_ss: raises $2.50 to $3.50
maggiejames: calls $3.50
greezex: raises $11.50 to $15
mentalo09: folds
dandelion169: folds
dreamer_ss: folds
maggiejames: calls $11.50

Flop (Pot : $35.00)

   
maggiejames: bets $75.50 and is all-in

i'll snap this, also you can raise way less and get the same affect

snappity snap

i call cuz it's 3bet pot and we have top pair where he could just be spazzing out but i'm not to happy about it

I think I probably fold. You're not that far ahead of like random hands with high clubs, ala KcX or AcX , etc. And if he has 2 overs with a club then you're behind. Also you're way behind 1010c and JJ and all higher pairs that he could flat twice because its full ring.

I don't see how this is a snap call,what's your thought process here asdf?
even if he has like 8c8 we're kind of flipping

Snap..................fold

w/ a Qc it's a snapcall.

here it's just meh. probably call. but can't be too trhilled about it

or maybe fold. what can he have here really

Tt+ w/ a club

Submitted by : Cro)Deadman

PokerStars Game #23636404702: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/06 15:09:58 ET
Table Asplinda V 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: sigmeister ($15 in chips)
Seat 2: Sharukh10 ($127.50 in chips)
Seat 3: AGFACOLOR ($54.45 in chips)
Seat 4: Speedy1209 ($34 in chips)
Seat 5: dreamer_ss ($169.60 in chips)
Seat 6: maggiejames ($90.50 in chips)
Seat 7: greezex ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 8: mentalo09 ($102.75 in chips)
Seat 9: dandelion169 ($105.50 in chips)
mentalo09: posts small blind $0.50
dandelion169: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to greezex
sigmeister: folds
Sharukh10: folds
AGFACOLOR: folds
Speedy1209: folds
dreamer_ss: raises $2.50 to $3.50
maggiejames: calls $3.50
greezex: raises $11.50 to $15
mentalo09: folds
dandelion169: folds
dreamer_ss: folds
maggiejames: calls $11.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $35.00)

   
maggiejames: bets $75.50 and is all-in
greezex: calls $75.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $186.00)

   

River (Pot : $186.00)

   

Showdown
maggiejames: shows (a pair of Kings)
greezex: mucks hand
maggiejames collected $183 from pot

Summary
Total pot $186 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: sigmeister folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Sharukh10 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: AGFACOLOR folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Speedy1209 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: dreamer_ss folded before Flop
Seat 6: maggiejames showed and won ($183) with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: greezex (button) mucked
Seat 8: mentalo09 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: dandelion169 (big blind) folded before Flop

i think the raise was a bit too risky/aggressive i would have raised less if i were to raise otherwise flat call and proceed carefull post flop

he's retarted...don't worry bout this hand...u should certainly take all his money later

instafold this.

who says snap call must be retarded, he is barely ahead of XcX and that msut be the bottom of this overbet range

i fold it instantly too

this is an instafold, most of the time these guys are coldcalling with big pairs
i've had enough experience myself when i squeeze in these spots, get coldcalled, and get shoved on/shoved over.

fold

u r flipping or you are behind most of the time

i would expect this mostly to be a fish spazzing out with a pair that beats you that doesn't have a club.

I actually didn't see that this is fullring. being fullring i would snap fold it

but if this was 6handed yes i would snap call

so either way snapping is going to happen

i think some of the worse hands in his range are mid pps and AcX sorta no pair hands and i dont think we have enough ev even against em

ouch

wtf this hand was FR

I am surprised that so many people are willing to call this. Basically, you are HOPING for a draw. That will likely come with overcards, making this a flip, and one where you are not the favorite if they have 2 overs. Calling an overbet praying for a flip is a never a winning proposition.

On January 08 2009 00:09 phexac wrote: I am surprised that so many people are willing to call this. Basically, you are HOPING for a draw. That will likely come with overcards, making this a flip, and one where you are not the favorite if they have 2 overs. Calling an overbet praying for a flip is a never a winning proposition.

WORD

I'm not calling, and if he check I check behind too.

even if you have a read that he is a retard this is a fold, you very very rarely dominate and are often behind/flipping