Durrrr heads up challenge

Thought this had potential:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/...rrrs-million-dollar-challenge-378021/


Hole card cams would be stupendous...

i just jizzed in my pants
if anyone accepts

antonius or ivey should accept

DURR:

ya i mean this wasnt supposed to be posted yet but w/e. Anyway... there are obv a few conditions, im out of it- but off the top of my head: 1) 200-400min (nl/plo obv) 2) can change tables anytime eff stacks are >250bb 3) have to reload when stacks are <75bb 4) $$ won in the challenge is kept obv (if i win 750k in poker, i get that PLUS your 500k- if i lose 750k in poker you get 2.25m total). 5) same stakes the whole time 6) not open to phil galfond hmm probly some other stuff but im out of it b/c i jus got owned @ some scrabble. I was gonna think up official 'terms' and post em or something, but thought i had another week or two b4 it became public.

Um, Phil Hellmuth one time.

can anyone tell me why is it not open to Phil Galfond?

that seems a bit wierd.

Gogogogo Ivey.

On January 02 2009 22:59 Cro)Deadman wrote: can anyone tell me why is it not open to Phil Galfond? that seems a bit wierd.

because jman is a beast?

i might do it but i have to talk it over w/ a bunch of ppl first tho

On January 02 2009 22:59 Cro)Deadman wrote: can anyone tell me why is it not open to Phil Galfond? that seems a bit wierd.

cause he's
A. Dirty
B. Sick
C. Nasty
D. Hero
E. All of the above

On January 02 2009 22:59 Cro)Deadman wrote: can anyone tell me why is it not open to Phil Galfond? that seems a bit wierd.

and they're friends right?

On January 02 2009 23:06 n0rthf4ce wrote: i might do it but i have to talk it over w/ a bunch of ppl first tho

wow... how much of yourself do you think you'd take?

On January 02 2009 23:11 Sicks Macks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2009 23:06 n0rthf4ce wrote: i might do it but i have to talk it over w/ a bunch of ppl first tho wow... how much of yourself do you think you'd take?

he'll take 100% and if he runs bad then it doesn't matter because frinkx and i will save his life

On January 02 2009 22:59 Cro)Deadman wrote: can anyone tell me why is it not open to Phil Galfond? that seems a bit wierd.

Either they are really, really close friends or Galfond has an edge on Tom.

Oh shit, Peachy vs Durrr :.

durrrr is very smart and i have no edge in a direct hu match but im hoping variance and 1m handicap can give me a worthy enough edge. but probably not....i'll have to think it through

Is 50k enough hands to minimize variance enough? Doesnt seem like a good bet for durr.

If I had the money I'd buy in on some action of a good player going against durr.

do it!

This makes me even more of a fan of durrr, he's just as much of a degenerate gambler as he is a poker player

On January 02 2009 23:42 Suicide wrote: This makes me even more of a fan of durrr, he's just as much of a degenerate gambler as he is a poker player

It must be lonely at the top. Motherfucker is only like 22, too.

Laying down 3:1 is pretty sick, especially when you call monster egos to a hu match, Larsluzak/cts/Ivey should prolly snap this i dont think durrrr has any edge on them (not sure about cts tho). I pray the lord for Ivey calling him, he's a beast and this prop bet would be epic.

I didn't know that Jman (OMGClayAiken?) is that scary...

I don't follow the poker scene much unless someone from LP is deep in some donkament or some TV show,well u get the point.

Anyways GL if you decide to take it up Peachy :-).

i wanna see CTS.

calling TJBentham to come make 1.5 mirrion (+ however much he would pwn durrr for in the match)...

I don't care who does this as long as it happens

LOL sfydjklm ur quote is hilarious

also

huge lol at peachy

haha wow. this would be epic if someone accept his challenge.

someone up there in the top with enough BR should definitely do this.

On January 03 2009 01:04 SfydjkLm wrote:

Is this from poker after drak? If yes can you tell me which season/episode?

On January 03 2009 02:28 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2009 01:04 SfydjkLm wrote: Is this from poker after drak? If yes can you tell me which season/episode?

On January 03 2009 02:28 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2009 01:04 SfydjkLm wrote: Is this from poker after drak? If yes can you tell me which season/episode?

NBC's National Heads Up Poker Championship 2008

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Phil Hellmuth should take him up on this

lawl

On January 03 2009 02:37 pinbaLL wrote: Phil Hellmuth should take him up on this lawl

He will if they play on UB lol

that hand vs phil is classic

On January 03 2009 02:46 mikeymoo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2009 02:37 pinbaLL wrote: Phil Hellmuth should take him up on this lawl He will if they play on UB lol

but then he ll win every pot LOL

closed to Phil Galfond coz durrrr s the one who taught him how to play so therefore he has no edge vs him obv

KRANTZ FTWWWWWWWWWWW

no contenders yet? :< gogo peachy

ivey got bitch slapped by durrrr last night

Guy Laliberte will accept and Durrrr will become an insta-gazzilionair.

guys smart enough to not accept this

On January 03 2009 02:46 mikeymoo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2009 02:37 pinbaLL wrote: Phil Hellmuth should take him up on this lawl He will if they play on UB lol

lolol

Rekrul, you do it.

Really this is +EV for all and any of the top guys, the problem is its not as +EV as playing fish for 50 thousand hands. Its foolish to think Durr has any kind of edge over any of them, the reality is its so close up there this will end up 50 thousand hands of variance. It oftentimes comes down to luck even in sports where there is no luck- be that soccer, rally, or competitive basket weaving. Reminds me of that Townsend fella. Wheres he now tho?

afaik Towsend is broke and took 500k$ loan from Farha ... thats just rumors tho

Rekrul vs Durrr would be so fucking sick

townsend is broke? :S

I would do it if i had peachy's roll ~_~

C
T
S

On January 03 2009 12:47 Spitfiree wrote: afaik Towsend is broke and took 500k$ loan from Farha ... thats just rumors tho

Lmao plz dont spread dumb rumors from 2+2 here

ivey playing durrr at FTP ^^

Lol Townsend had made 5-6 Millions from Poker before 2008 !
I doubt hes down even 1/3 of that amount in 2008 >-<

Phil Galfond is the most consistent winner in online poker besides Phil Ivey
While guys like Durrr and Antonius have huge swings and some month are liek down 1 million and the next month they are up 2 milions
galfond is always winning every month


Peachy should do this ^^
or he should stake Mezmerize to do this

imo
Ivey is too lazy, 50k hands is a lot
Noone else has a roll for this
noone is that stupid to do it

oh maybe Ziig

@ Sheitan not from 2+2 just hear it from sum guy but still i ask myself why didnt he play at all @ FTP these days
Ivey just got slaughtered @ his PLO Hu table by durrrr

Why doesn't stinger do this all PLO?

Ivey just got slaughtered @ his PLO Hu table by durrrr

Dealer: Phil Ivey wins the pot ($125,999.50)

not rly

durr then got stomped by PA for like 250k on two tables of HU PLO on the 200/400 6 max tables before bouncing when benyamine showed up

50k hands... think about this bet carefully
1. How likely is it that someone who starts off losing to durr will be able to complete the 50k hands? I think most people would have to forfeit if they start the match down a few mil, whereas durr would not quit if he was down.
2. 50k hands is a lot, if durr has over a 2ptbb edge, then I think this is a good proposition for durr (not including the chance someone quits before the 50k hands)

im sure there is more to think about but yea, i would love to see this go down

On January 03 2009 14:14 Spitfiree wrote: @ Sheitan not from 2+2 just hear it from sum guy but still i ask myself why didnt he play at all @ FTP these days Ivey just got slaughtered @ his PLO Hu table by durrrr

BT has a blog on Cardrunners, just read it and you will know what hes up to. He surely suffered from a downswing but he havent stopped playing, hes playing pretty frequently up to 10k PLO (think he cashed out and started from scratch kinda)

He totally focus on PLO and thats why he dont play any highstakes NL.

Rekrul gogo.

On January 03 2009 16:00 ConquistadoR wrote: Rekrul gogo.

This.

I don't understand why ppl (specifically low stakes idiots who don't have any clue what they are talking about) like to trash talk or spread rumors about Townsend just b/c he isn't playing 200/400 day in day out anymore. OMG HE PLAYS 25/50 AND 50/100 NOW HE'S PROBABLY BUSTO. HE DIDNT' MAKE 109857405973405874 MILLION DOLLARS AND WIN 10000000 TOURNAMENTS IN 2K8, HE OBVIOUSLY IS BROKE AND HATING HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW.

I mean honestly, please use your brain before you post.

or people who think Durr has or has not some kind of edge, without any form of deduction, just because they think it..

well Antonius and Ivey r prolly too lazy to do this and the only one rolled & should snap this is LarsLuzak imo i think he has edge over durrrr
@ BigRed i stated in my post that this is a non-confirmed info AKA rumor and also calling someone "idiot" that u dont really know doesnt make u smarter nor does it say anything good for u

wow, sick challenge. would be interested in watching ^^ . GL whoever accepts challenge

onlt person on this site that I can see doing this is Fayth.


Neilly And Xarvan[whatever his name was] Obv

well ivey is actually playing alot so he could do that

On January 03 2009 19:04 capaneo wrote: onlt person on this site that I can see doing this is Fayth. Neilly And Xarvan[whatever his name was] Obv

Lol fayth has 500K roll

I doubt anyone on this site could do it.
peachy may have the roll but durrr would probably slaughter him

On January 03 2009 16:00 ConquistadoR wrote: Rekrul go gobusto.

fyp

100/200 go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit: lol wrong thread.

On January 03 2009 21:12 PplusAD wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2009 19:04 capaneo wrote: onlt person on this site that I can see doing this is Fayth. Neilly And Xarvan[whatever his name was] Obv Lol fayth has 500K roll I doubt anyone on this site could do it. peachy may have the roll but durrr would probably slaughter him

I know about Fayth. I mean he is the only person I can see on this site who has the ambition to do it.


Change my post to "Only person who would do it"

i thought about it and im not going to do it. id do it if it were 2 tables of NL hu, but not 4 tables.

On January 03 2009 16:35 BigRed0000 wrote: I don't understand why ppl (specifically low stakes idiots who don't have any clue what they are talking about) like to trash talk or spread rumors about Townsend just b/c he isn't playing 200/400 day in day out anymore. OMG HE PLAYS 25/50 AND 50/100 NOW HE'S PROBABLY BUSTO. HE DIDNT' MAKE 109857405973405874 MILLION DOLLARS AND WIN 10000000 TOURNAMENTS IN 2K8, HE OBVIOUSLY IS BROKE AND HATING HIS LIFE RIGHT NOW. I mean honestly, please use your brain before you post.

QFT
Also I am pretty sure I have heard him saying in some CR video or was it in some of his blogs,that he can not work or do anything(if he wish) a single day for the rest of his life and he will have enough money to live well.So just because he is not in a mood or w/e is his reason to play 200-400+ doesn't mean he is in debts.

I don't think durrr would have a huge edge over peachy BUT he certainly have one let's face it. Altho 50k hands + variance and the 3:1 odds might be an ev+ spot for peachy. If Fayth had the roll to jump into this i'm 100% sure he'd snap call, because this guy is one fearless mother fucker.

ok so he lets you pick the stakes and you can switch stakes whenever you want?

1. start off with 100knl, and win 1.5 buyins (+$150k)
2. move down to 40k nl and fold the next 49k hands (-$140k~) or whatever
3. win the 1.5m

On January 04 2009 00:10 fira wrote: ok so he lets you pick the stakes and you can switch stakes whenever you want? 1. start off with 100knl, and win 1.5 buyins (+$150k) 2. move down to 40k nl and fold the next 49k hands (-$140k~) or whatever 3. win the 1.5m

check the math again

On January 04 2009 00:23 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2009 00:10 fira wrote: ok so he lets you pick the stakes and you can switch stakes whenever you want? 1. start off with 100knl, and win 1.5 buyins (+$150k) 2. move down to 40k nl and fold the next 49k hands (-$140k~) or whatever 3. win the 1.5m check the math again

oops

On January 04 2009 00:10 fira wrote: ok so he lets you pick the stakes and you can switch stakes whenever you want? 1. start off with 100knl, and win 1.5 buyins (+$150k) 2. move down to 40k nl and fold the next 49k hands (-$140k~) or whatever 3. win the 1.5m

durr posted some modified conditions in the original thread which includes a set limit.

I think the main problem is that even for the people that are rolled for it and feel they have an edge on durr, 50k hands just isnt going to be worth it for them opportunity cost-wise. Ivey for example played 100k hands in 2008 and made 7.5 mil according to highstakesdb. So if he plans to play the same amount in 2009 its like he's going to have to make at least 3.75 mil off durr for the bet to be worth it. The same applies for the dang bros and antonius and a few others but on a lesser scale. Degenyamine is imo the most likely candidate. He's rolled and seems to be willing to play a ton of hands in bad games already so its not like he's doing anything really differently. Im sure people would agree durr has the edge in NL but Mr B might have an edge in PLO enough to make up for that. There's also the very real possibility some random 2+2er with a big ego might want to take a stab (krantz, ansky, cts?) but imo they just wont have enough experience at the nosebleeds and probably arent quite rolled enough for it to be a good idea.

this could be super epic or super disappointing.

gogogogogo one fuckin time.

If Farha was an online player this would be snap call at PLO

Hmm, why don't some of those guys with bigger ego's from 2+2 or wherever mix up their rolls and let one guy represent them? Or maybe they could even cut a deal that they would that they can each play 1/3 of the amount of hands or whatever although I doubt anyone would trust their peer enough to let them play for it on this amount of money.

Sickest thing would obviously be the Finnish vs. Durrr. PA, Ziig and LarsLurzak since PA will probably never do this alone playing that many hands.

My guess is, another high profile player will take this and they'll get a sponsorship deal so that both make money lol.

Urindanger, Trex or Krantz imo

Looks like it's Benyamine up first, but Ivey's up to the challenge.

HU Challenge Listen to the phone convo

this will be soooooooo siiick i just saw the 2+2 thread and as ivey said "someone s gonna go broke" and its true if someone goes in a bad/good run

On January 03 2009 18:26 Spitfiree wrote: well Antonius and Ivey r prolly too lazy to do this and the only one rolled & should snap this is LarsLuzak imo i think he has edge over durrrr @ BigRed i stated in my post that this is a non-confirmed info AKA rumor and also calling someone "idiot" that u dont really know doesnt make u smarter nor does it say anything good for u

when I think Ivey I think the opposite of lazy

On January 06 2009 14:43 Grass.nS) wrote: Looks like it's Benyamine up first, but Ivey's up to the challenge. HU Challenge Listen to the phone convo

sweet link

On January 06 2009 14:43 Grass.nS) wrote: Looks like it's Benyamine up first, but Ivey's up to the challenge. HU Challenge Listen to the phone convo

I found this very motivational

On January 06 2009 14:55 asdf2000 wrote: when I think Ivey I think the opposite of lazy

what i meant was he had like about 130k hands last year overally and to do 50k in a month or so online is kinda alot and he s not used to that kind of amount of hands in such time at least thats my thought process not that he is in fact lazy and likes slacking all day long or anything like that ... noone can get as good as him slacking lol

god i wish Durrr didnt offer PLO as option and only NLHE

On January 06 2009 15:01 asdf2000 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2009 14:43 Grass.nS) wrote: Looks like it's Benyamine up first, but Ivey's up to the challenge. HU Challenge Listen to the phone convo I found this very motivational

ivey :somebody going to be broke, lose couple of million and pay off after 20k-30k hands..
nice links

anyone else get annoyed when they would say "head up"

benyamine first, PA 2nd, and ivey 3rd. sooooooooooo sick if all 3 matches happen.

durrr vs Ivey > all

ps will probably be jealous of the " audience" in Ftilt

i would definitely enjoy a NLHE 4 table match over a plo match but the crazy swings would be entertaining

omg it's gonna be epic

anyone think durrr is sweating now that Ivey, PA, and Benyamine are all thinkin of taking this up?

On January 06 2009 16:28 p-halt wrote: anyone think durrr is sweating now that Ivey, PA, and Benyamine are all thinkin of taking this up?

no

On January 06 2009 16:05 Baal wrote: durrr vs Ivey > all

Hmm, Durrr vs Antonius would be sick as well, not sure which one would be sicker...

On January 06 2009 16:28 p-halt wrote: anyone think durrr is sweating now that Ivey, PA, and Benyamine are all thinkin of taking this up?

why would he be sweating when its exacly what he wanted? I mean its pretty obv it was among those guys to accept this challenge. And at least in Degenyamines case i think hes rather drooling!

On January 06 2009 16:31 Kilay wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2009 16:05 Baal wrote: durrr vs Ivey > all Hmm, Durrr vs Antonius would be sick as well, not sure which one would be sicker...

PA is has more discipline and its a tad more conservative than Ivey who tries to get into their opponents heads and its willing to push smaller edges so it would be a much more interesting match against durrr imo.

On January 06 2009 17:15 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2009 16:31 Kilay wrote:   On January 06 2009 16:05 Baal wrote: durrr vs Ivey > all Hmm, Durrr vs Antonius would be sick as well, not sure which one would be sicker... PA is has more discipline and its a tad more conservative than Ivey who tries to get into their opponents heads and its willing to push smaller edges so it would be a much more interesting match against durrr imo.

Hmm, I obviously never played the guys so hard to tell but I think somewhere around Cardrunners (I think it was CTS plays LarsLurzak vid) that CTS said that PA has kind of a unique HU style with some definite leaks back then. But since his style is so unique and noticably different from those other nosebleed regulars I think that'd really add some nice dynamics and all to the match.

Nontheless, both would be insanely awesome matches. Even Benyamine would be cool probably a lot on PLO but that'd probably be the least interesting of the three.

Thing is, Durrr makes it an interesting match not really mattering who he plays, he is probably one of the sickest hero's to ever live.

o my god im gonna orgasm from just reading this.

and btw if durr plays degenamine first hes gonna have such a sick time

imo he should own him pretty hard and then he'll have a sick confidence+ bankroll boost when it comes to patrick and ivey.

one more opinion of mine is that antonious is def another underdog and durr will beat him down too but to less of an extent as degenamine. and who knows ivey might even duck him when it comes his turn. obviously that wouldn't be characteristic of ivey but when its that much money on the line peoples egos get set aside.

you guys understimate benyamine in PLO imo,

On January 06 2009 21:12 DooMeR wrote: o my god im gonna orgasm from just reading this. and btw if durr plays degenamine first hes gonna have such a sick time imo he should own him pretty hard and then he'll have a sick confidence+ bankroll boost when it comes to patrick and ivey. one more opinion of mine is that antonious is def another underdog and durr will beat him down too but to less of an extent as degenamine. and who knows ivey might even duck him when it comes his turn. obviously that wouldn't be characteristic of ivey but when its that much money on the line peoples egos get set aside.

What you dont see is that the side money of $500k for all ben,ivey and PA is such a small amount. Just like ivey said there is a huge chance someone is going to loose 5-10mil if they keep playing.
Also they usually play the 100k game so for them its only 5buy-ins.

So im sure as soon as they loose 1mil in a 40k game they will call it quite and then again Durr will be ending up with only 1.5mil addition to his bank roll which is not a "huge boost" for him.

sick stuff, cant wait to rail

IMO Durr is more likly to loose in his first match.

And I dont know about DB or Durr PLO skills but what I know that PLO is extremly swingy specially at this level.
There are two things that can happen
1) As soon as Durr hits down 1mil he is going to call off the bet ending up down 2.5mil. And its GG.
2) DB can end down 1mil and still keep going till he knows it will only cost him 500k to get out.

Now if Durr doesnt stop after being down 1mil. He knows two more games just as tough if not tougher are about to come after this. Making him way more inclinded to be off guard off his game.

On January 06 2009 21:59 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2009 21:12 DooMeR wrote: o my god im gonna orgasm from just reading this. and btw if durr plays degenamine first hes gonna have such a sick time imo he should own him pretty hard and then he'll have a sick confidence+ bankroll boost when it comes to patrick and ivey. one more opinion of mine is that antonious is def another underdog and durr will beat him down too but to less of an extent as degenamine. and who knows ivey might even duck him when it comes his turn. obviously that wouldn't be characteristic of ivey but when its that much money on the line peoples egos get set aside. What you dont see is that the side money of $500k for all ben,ivey and PA is such a small amount. Just like ivey said there is a huge chance someone is going to loose 5-10mil if they keep playing. Also they usually play the 100k game so for them its only 5buy-ins. So im sure as soon as they loose 1mil in a 40k game they will call it quite and then again Durr will be ending up with only 1.5mil addition to his bank roll which is not a "huge boost" for him.

1.5 million dollars is a fairly size-able boost to anyone playing poker regularly besides Laliberte.

Btw, I think Ivey is spot on in that there's a very real chance that someone (Benyamine maybe?) gets significantly damaged from this. Nosebleed HU PLO for that many hands is ricockulous. Who knows though. Which makes this super f'ing interesting as if it weren't already.

Also, I think people would be surprised at how much ego might play a factor in one not quitting. Despite the stakes.

I side bet my 500 to anyone's 1500 and I pick DB vs Durr.

Or other amounts if you guys want to at the same odds.

Anyone??!

On January 06 2009 15:25 Baal wrote: god i wish Durrr didnt offer PLO as option and only NLHE

this

Sick that Ivey knows he can lose up to $10M and still wants to play, lulz.

DB vs durrr will probably be DB raping durrr at PLO with durrr raping DB at NL...just going to see who can win the best. I think durrr will probably pull it out cuz he'll own in NL and runs like god so he will win all the PLO flips

On January 06 2009 22:17 palak wrote: DB vs durrr will probably be DB raping durrr at PLO with durrr raping DB at NL...just going to see who can win the best. I think durrr will probably pull it out cuz he'll own in NL and runs like god so he will win all the PLO flips

jesus, i mean i have no clue about them, but you people its just like u have no idea whatesoever who you are talking about.... Benyamine does not destroy Dwan in PLO HU, however Dwan's edge in NLHE is much bigger, also Dwan does not run like god, given his losseness any kind of luck swing is massive, ive seen Dwan run like insane shit this year many times.

are they playing mix or only PLO? didnt durr says its only one game the whole 50k?

On January 06 2009 16:28 p-halt wrote: anyone think durrr is sweating now that Ivey, PA, and Benyamine are all thinkin of taking this up?

no i think thats why he did it

wow i am so, so late

On January 06 2009 23:13 Ket wrote:

lol

On January 06 2009 23:13 Ket wrote:

merry belated christmas imo.