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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2008 20:31. Posts 34312


  On December 23 2008 17:28 Parker417 wrote:
You don't know the history of Texas so i will let you off the hook on that. On that note calling people "idiots" because of opposing view points only makes you sound moronic. Its easy for you to hate Americans for political reasoning but hasty generalizations is kinda sick.



i know perfectly the history, but you have been told the retarded US version (winners write history remember?)


And i call you an idiot because you think its OK for USA to torture war prisioners...

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Parker417   United States. Dec 23 2008 20:59. Posts 331

Thanks for the assumption. Your reputation proceeds you. If you remember correctly Texas beat you in its own war. remember the Alamo? Texas was its own country after it beat Mexico in its war for independence or did you not learn that in your school.


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2008 22:56. Posts 34312


  On December 23 2008 19:59 Parker417 wrote:
Thanks for the assumption. Your reputation proceeds you. If you remember correctly Texas beat you in its own war. remember the Alamo? Texas was its own country after it beat Mexico in its war for independence or did you not learn that in your school.



An independence war funded and supported by USA to later take it, its not like texans founded their own country by themselves.

So yeah mexico could right now arm and support rebels groups in Guatemala and take over a part of their country, and that would be fucked up.



Anyway im not assuming you think torture is ok, YOU SAID IT, you said "Do you think they do it for fun?" ... that implies that if the information is important, its ok to torture.

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Parker417   United States. Dec 24 2008 00:01. Posts 331

Love how your putting the USA as the whipping boy of torturing war prisoners. Yes its illegal and yes its wrong but some of these people are dangerous and are apart of dangerous organizations and have knowledge that could secure lifes all over the world. If you had a family member die in a terrorist attack which I haven't but know people that have. you might be a tad bit more inclined to do anything possible to prevent these horrible acts.

I understand all of the lives lost in Iraq and Afghanistan and its 100000x worse the 911 and i feel for these people. The justifications to go into Iraq were a bad beat.Many of these criminals are parts of terrorist networks and some of these people won't say a word and if it makes one more human being safe in china, Mexico, Russia, America, England you name the country its worth it. I know fundamentally its wrong and its illegal but name any nation that has had threats to its national security and guess what? THAT'S the reason they are turning a blind eye because they know that if it can save one of there citizens it is worth that course of action. Its easy to play a good guy but terrible shit is going on every day that we will never know of or could understand.

I understand the argument but we don't know 1% of the facts and we all make assumptions of what we THINK is going on.



(bad grammar i dont feel like looking back)

End of rant.


WalcottEntp   United States. Dec 24 2008 00:15. Posts 117




This is why Baal is right.
America blows
The Freedom to be fuckin retarded

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Sheitan   Canada. Dec 24 2008 00:20. Posts 4217

Comitting an horrible act to prevent horrible acts, makes sense.

Also what about innocent people put into jail w/o a trial, w/o a lawyer, in the name of "war on terror" ? gtfo

US are like the modern vikings, making a living by attacking and being the agressor, 911 is just a logical consequence. And i bet there's more to come, when you maintain people in pain and suffer for too long, they have nothing left to lose. If i could send people in hell, i'd probably send terrorists first and right after them the US government and all the rednecks who support this war, earth would be a better place.

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Parker417   United States. Dec 24 2008 01:27. Posts 331

I do not support the war or support torture. But in some extreme cases i accept what goes on. Baal is right, along with everyone else on the torture issue. I accept that my countries shows the bad face in this but every government on earth is nearly controlled with the same Neo-conservative higher archy which we don't see. I know most think of this as conspiracy and all those other cool words to call it but the rich control this world.


the usa stopped with expansion of communism and now in a more global culture then ever its easy for info to fly around. Sheitan and others who see there world in tunnel vision need to get a clue.The earth would be controlled by communism were poker would NOT be accepted in a communist world. This world isnt about being nice and running around in flower beds. No one wants war, no one wants poverty, no one wants genocide, no one wants starvation. Majority of Americans shown there hate towards that war same with most other developed nations. but at the end of the day we will all be one and with the North American union we will see my friends to the north and south get a tab bit closer.


hopefully we see a day of a world were cultures don't class but don't expect it to happen without bloodshed.


99% of us on this forum are lucky to be able to get on the internet and play poker and do all these amazing things. Unfortunately people think Obama is a savior which is going to come to the shock which is oh so unfortunate. Merry Christmas to all and all a good night :D happy holidays for all those non Santa clause believers :D


brambolius   Netherlands. Dec 24 2008 02:45. Posts 1708


  On December 23 2008 12:27 Roald wrote:
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Wrong. He does it right and doesn't get caught.

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seatown12   United States. Dec 24 2008 03:45. Posts 1193


  On December 23 2008 17:22 Baal wrote:
Who gives a shit why they torture you idiot, torture is ILLEGAL, they are breaking the geneva convention and international laws


International law is a joke, law without enforcement is irrelevant. The US can break any international law they want and not pay their UN dues and rig the WTO etc. and so what? Roald is 100% right that this is why people in other countries hate America, because America can get away with all this shit because it is the strongest nation. All the rest of you should face the fact that your countries would do the exact same if the roles were reversed. People who deny this and blame the situation on imagined personal shortcomings of the American population are intentionally deluding themselves so that they can feel morally superior to counteract shame or frustration felt due to their own nation's obvious inferiority. That is why I said a long time ago in this post that most of the people who hate Americans would probably fit very well into American society as they imagine it. Irrational and delusional hatred of individual Americans based on the entirely predictable actions of their government is indicative of extreme nationalism on the part of the poster.

On the other hand I have a feeling that some people are just really disappointed that America didnt rise above politics as usual as the global superpower, which I guess is justified. These would be the people who are able to differentiate ordinary Americans and American society from specific actions of the government.

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seatown12   United States. Dec 24 2008 03:49. Posts 1193

the people who refer to Americans in general as rednecks are no better than actual rednecks, or any other narrow minded, insular, backward subgroup of the human species

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TheTank   United States. Dec 24 2008 09:46. Posts 830

I've got a great idea so we can have world peace!!!!!! there will never be another war ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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^^literally the only way for peace on earth.

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ck20   . Dec 24 2008 09:46. Posts 1130

People do dislike Americans because they give them feeling that they think they are better. Which is not true (that they are better).
Also, America is imperialistic country. There was a program on Discovery channel comparing USA to Third Reich.
I wish I had this on my HD


TheTank   United States. Dec 24 2008 09:50. Posts 830

and you know what? if you're not willing to sacrifice yourself to be replaced by a robot, than you don't support world peace, and you are supporting the end of mankind. (by war)

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brambolius   Netherlands. Dec 24 2008 10:50. Posts 1708


  On December 23 2008 08:57 brambolius wrote:
Imho people dislike america becouse they need a scapegoat.

Its very convenient for western-country citizens to point at america and yell that they represent everything that's wrong with democratic kapitalism.

All the while forgetting that their own country is doing the same thing but on a different scale.

To me the EU(for example) and the USA are just two different heads sprouting from the same dragon.





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Sheitan   Canada. Dec 24 2008 10:53. Posts 4217


  On December 24 2008 02:45 TedHastings wrote:
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Roald is 100% right that this is why people in other countries hate America, because America can get away with all this shit because it is the strongest nation. All the rest of you should face the fact that your countries would do the exact same if the roles were reversed. People who deny this and blame the situation on imagined personal shortcomings of the American population are intentionally deluding themselves so that they can feel morally superior to counteract shame or frustration felt due to their own nation's obvious inferiority.


LOL penis contest in an international level ? Who cares who s the stronger and who's weaker, not because you're the stronger country out there you have to be dickheads and act like douchebags. And no, not all countries would do the same if the roles were reversed. And btw, Europe is as strong as the US (hello euro ?), not talking about China/India becoming strenghts to reckon soon, you guys must worry a lot i guess you won't be able to bully anymore the whole world like you used to do in the 60's, prepare for a reality check real soon.

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F4Zi   United Kingdom. Dec 24 2008 12:17. Posts 3462

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F4Zi   United Kingdom. Dec 24 2008 12:18. Posts 3462

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fakeshaver   United States. Dec 24 2008 13:22. Posts 1313

People dislike us for our freedom. /end thread


Parker417   United States. Dec 24 2008 13:50. Posts 331

some reason they only have stupid people in these videos. im glad you can get your knowledge from a comedy show. Bravo.


Parker417   United States. Dec 24 2008 13:55. Posts 331

Sheitan you obviously know nothing about world powers because in reality China and India are far far far from being near the level of more developed nations. For Christ sakes Israel has a more developed army then china. The point of the matter is that if anyone in the EU got attacked America would be the first fucking army to be there. Probably before there own country went lol. People hate America until they need us.


 
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