Why do people dislike Americans? - Page 12

On December 25 2008 19:37 TedHastings wrote: I mean how else do you explain people who claim to hate everything about America and all the people in it, not just the Iraq war or religious fanatics or McDonalds?

wtf who hates mcdonalds?

On December 25 2008 19:37 TedHastings wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2008 17:34 Baal wrote: no i dont misunderstand teh definition of genocide at all. Also get this clear, NOBODY in this planet hates USA out of jealousy that is retarded lol, yeah many people hate on USA because of many wrong things and they are idiots, however their reasons are never jealosy that makes you sound biggoted and quite ignorant full of gov propaganda tbh Well "genocide" refers to an attempt by a group of people to completely eradicate another specific group of people, not just an event which leads to the death of many people in general, so I dont see how it could be applied to the Iraq war. I think we can find enough ways to criticize the war without putting incorrect labels on it. But it's not really the issue so whatever. I think its strange that you completely disregard a potential reason why people might hate America. Obviously you have a very nuanced opinion and understand pretty well the issues involved but I would not assume that everyone else does as well. For instance Raszi comes off as an ignorant retard any time he speaks on this issue. I think a lot of people are unhappy that America wields so much political and cultural power and would prefer that another country, such as their own, had power to match so that their interests would be better represented. This is an extremely common human response and I don't think it makes me bigoted at all to point it out. If some random country was the world superpower and did a ton of crap I didn't like and exported their shitty culture I would be jealous of their ability to do so too, it's normal. I mean how else do you explain people who claim to hate everything about America and all the people in it, not just the Iraq war or religious fanatics or McDonalds?

Yes, and that people being targeted is the arabic world or middle east, or as your government likes to call, the axis of evil.


Being angry of the missuse of power =/= jealousy....... for example:

A cop beats down a suspect with his baton and leaves him badly injured, you will be angry about it but you wont think "jee, i wish i had a baton and immunity to beat down people i hate"....

do you get it now? i hope you do because saying its out of jealousy makes you look like an ignorant redneck since those are the exact hillariously stupid words the american government uses to bombard the ignorant public with.

hey all you people arguing, suck my dick and get a life

baal 3 times you've been to texas. Ive lived her 10 years so dont act like a few weeks of coming to texas gives you a right to judge texas. Chances are you went threw "redneck" ville which makes up like 5% of the population.

baal u fail in this thread so many ways lol.

Baal is like the other extreme of the redneck mentality not sure this is a good or a bad thing tho, extremes tend to be dangerous.

His words bare some truth nonetheless, saying that people hate the US just out of spite is ignorant and only proves lack of historical knowledge, every country in Latin America has a reason to hate our mighty big brother and it's not a small one, supporting cruel dictators to "protect" people against the mean soviets was a brilliant move, leaving said countries with tons of debts and fascist governments after the war ended was a terrible side effect, some say the US can't be held responsible for the things that happened in this period but that's not entirely truth, it was either their way or the soviet way (Cuba) and quite honestly, who wants to be Cuba ?

Brasil, Chile, Argentina, Mexico (not so much) still managed to recover from the setbacks caused by this period but take a look at the remaining countries.

Colombia, Venezuala, Equador are torn apart, most of the people live in extreme poverty and there is no light in the end of the tunnel, makes you wonder if this has any relation to said countries having ultra nationalists stupid presidents.

This is old stuff and people don't even talk about it anymore in a global scale, but it happened and some people won't forget, I'm one of those people it was wrong and a whole continent suffered the consequences, this is totally different then the most recent actions in the Middle East and you can't compare them, the only thing they have in common is that they ended up bad and there is nothing else to blame except poor foreign polices management by the US Government.

PS: I don't hate Americans at all but I understand why some people do.

On December 25 2008 19:57 Baal wrote: Yes, and that people being targeted is the arabic world or middle east, or as your government likes to call, the axis of evil.

LOL ya all people living in the Middle East are the exact same ethnicity/religion/culture

On December 25 2008 19:57 Baal wrote: A cop beats down a suspect with his baton and leaves him badly injured, you will be angry about it but you wont think "jee, i wish i had a baton and immunity to beat down people i hate"....

wow way to pick out one hypothetical situation that makes your point... I already made clear that people who disagree with specific actions of the US government are not who I was talking about, its the people who hate individual Americans and our culture that have the problem, unless you think all Americans can be equated to violent police

seriously dude your last post was so far below the quality I expect from you I'm disappointed

On December 25 2008 23:46 dejokah wrote: every country in Latin America has a reason to hate our mighty big brother and it's not a small one, supporting cruel dictators to "protect" people against the mean soviets was a brilliant move, leaving said countries with tons of debts and fascist governments after the war ended was a terrible side effect

The US government in the past has supported repressive governments in Latin America, so you can understand why someone in one of the affected countries might hate all Americans, based on the actions of our government. Taking this logic to its natural conclusion these Latin Americans should then hate themselves also because their own governments were in fact repressive and fascist, and at least as bad as America's.

Baal or Lex if either of you came to texas ever, I guarantee i could change your minds about at least Austin (the city i'm from). FWIW it's the capital, and pretty much only liberal city in the entire state. Austin is kick ass and pretty much the opposite of all the texas hillbilly redneck stereotypes you hear about. People are friendly, we have tons of awesome live music and film festivals each year, there's good food everywhere, and it was voted top 5 safest cities in America!

I think your missing the point here, those governements would not exist if the US foreign police wasn't so invasive, of course this can be historically argued but there is no way to deny that the US propaganda was insanely strong during the cold war and spread like a disease trough the entire continent, people were afraid of the soviets and willing to do anything to feel safe, when people are scared they tend to give a strong leadership all they have so they can be "saved".

(If you are curious about history this same behavior ended up creating US most hated enemy, spilling money into shady organizations to prevent the red menace advance in the Middle East only to see them become terrorist organizations a few years later.)

To be honest as said I can understand and even relate to the hatred this people feel but I think it's wrong and ignorant to hate each and every citizen of a nation due to it's government actions therefore the main point is that we should learn from our mistakes and avoid creating situations like this.

What annoys me is that this kind of thing doesn't get as much attention as it should specially in schools, people should learn their history and know when their actions were harmfull to others this is the only way history can evolve and not repeat itself and I'm not talking only about the US now, what European countries did during their colonization period both American and African is by far the worst case of genocide the world has ever seen and they seem to forget easily about this, sure it's ancient history but it's always good to take a good look in the mirror.

I could go on and on providing historical examples of how people fucked up each other in this never ending chaos that we live in but I guess there is no point because we are driven to make this mistakes over and over until we learn or burn ourselves to the ground, I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore, I guess it's time to give up trying to justify hatred we will always be at war be it for oil, for land, belief and most of all glory.

I think I'm getting to the obvious conclusion that if we hate back everyone that caused us pain there will be not enough hate so I'm going with Dylan on this one.

"As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred."

The greatest American poet.

Sorry about that, I'm high.

Im %100 with Raszi here.
A typical of Americans is a close minded. Back-stabbing- ignorant person.
And they are ALL like that unless its proven otherwise

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i feel like i should stab my eyes out after reading many of these posts

ALSO, i'm an ignorant American, go me

Dont get me wrong btw. I still judge everyone individually. My GF is american and there are many americans that I admire. But many of them are like I said above.

Im from Iran. And I can also say that Iranians are the most irresponsible, arrogant racist people that you can find on the planet.

On December 26 2008 07:16 capaneo wrote: Dont get me wrong btw. I still judge everyone individually. My GF is american and there are many americans that I admire. But many of them are like I said above. Im from Iran. And I can also say that Iranians are the most irresponsible, arrogant racist people that you can find on the planet.

QFT i can say the same about bulgarians

and seriously what made me laugh in this thread is the guy that said we hate America coz u have freedom .. i cant express how funny that is in words
and also i doubt anyone really HATES the USA its more like "dislike" but cmon ... hate is too strong imo and most of the people have no connection whatsoever with the USA they arent involved with that country in any way so "hate" is kinda too strong to describe their feelings towards America

and about the freedom topic .... its guys like him i dislike that is just ROFLROFLMAO WTFF r u talking about they brainwash u from ur childhood with that " AMERICA IS FREE COUNTRY " then they send Hundred thousand american soldiers in Afganistan and Iraq with most ridiculous reasons ever to steal petrol coz ur so called "Freedom" is endangared and most of them DIE there.Do u know how many families have been ruined because of ur selfish retarded government ? How much misery ur country has brought to themselves and other countries ? And then some ignorant american comes here and says " they hate us coz of our freedom " tho he is unaware of whats happening in the world and probably has no idea where Europe is .... forget about the countries that his own motherland is in war with ( Iraq and Afganistan) ... well FUCK YOU buddy

So many lifes lost, lifes ruined and why ? coz u are greedy

On December 26 2008 03:15 capaneo wrote: Im %100 with Raszi here. A typical of Americans is a close minded. Back-stabbing- ignorant person. And they are ALL like that unless its proven otherwise

Canada is a poor man's America

America is a poor man's Netherlands

if people hated usa cause of jealousy there would be like 15 countries they hated more, as these countries are objectively seen better to live in than usa, but they do not
thus jealousy is not part of the equation

Pretty sure hating an entire country of people by claiming their population is significantly more ignorant comparative to others, which seems to be the most frequently cited reason throughout the thread, is fairly ridiculous. Wouldn't it be fairly ignorant in itself to make the wide generalization that a population of people are mostly ignorant based on what few Americans most have met? With a small enough sample size, we can make any country look terrible.

I think ignorance is more likely a very widespread problem throughout the world, but seeing as I'm not very well traveled, I don't have the experience to make that assertion yet.

On December 24 2008 18:57 Baal wrote: california and the northeast pretty much own the economy of USA, if Alabama, Texas and the redneck states want to split LOL i really dont think the north would stop them now.

I live in Texas, and it's not the redneck state you think it might be. I'm from the Houston area, and while I can't claim to have seen most of Texas, I can say I haven't really seen many rednecks throughout the eastern side of Texas. I've heard the western side of the state might be a bit more backward, but the state as a whole is definitely not what you have in mind. After all, many of your own countrymen have found Texas good enough to call it home.

On December 23 2008 19:31 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2008 17:28 Parker417 wrote: You don't know the history of Texas so i will let you off the hook on that. On that note calling people "idiots" because of opposing view points only makes you sound moronic. Its easy for you to hate Americans for political reasoning but hasty generalizations is kinda sick. i know perfectly the history, but you have been told the retarded US version (winners write history remember?)

This made me lol. I hope you "know perfectly the history" because you experienced it first hand or at least dug deep into historic papers written at the time regarding events. I agree history in text books are biased, but you'd be silly to think the loser's history is non-biased and perfect.

On December 26 2008 00:20 TedHastings wrote: Show nested quote + On December 25 2008 19:57 Baal wrote: Yes, and that people being targeted is the arabic world or middle east, or as your government likes to call, the axis of evil. LOL ya all people living in the Middle East are the exact same ethnicity/religion/culture   On December 25 2008 19:57 Baal wrote: A cop beats down a suspect with his baton and leaves him badly injured, you will be angry about it but you wont think "jee, i wish i had a baton and immunity to beat down people i hate".... wow way to pick out one hypothetical situation that makes your point... I already made clear that people who disagree with specific actions of the US government are not who I was talking about, its the people who hate individual Americans and our culture that have the problem, unless you think all Americans can be equated to violent police seriously dude your last post was so far below the quality I expect from you I'm disappointed

1.- Pretty much you idiot, they are called muslims

2.- And for 3rd time, not not even the people who irrationaly hates US is about Jealosy... do you think a guy in Venezuela hating blindly on USA is just jealous? if you do you are a moron seriously.