Poker Noob: NL5 Dynamics - Page 2

Your looking for skill in the wrong place, NL2, NL5 and NL10 are not about skill, they are about patience.

Believe me there is no point in analyzing this players, they have no real range of hands that you can place them, they play random hands from random positions and bet random values, you really need to be a nit.

Seriously, poker is much more than that but not on this levels.

Imo, just learn the basics after that you can start worrying about more advanced stuff you won't need info on the other players until NL25 or so, making "plays" without understanding what you are doing is just trying to get lucky.

Position, Starting Hands, Pot Odds, Implied Odds & FE

Learn this first then try to analyze other people.

On December 06 2008 11:31 dejokah wrote: Your looking for skill in the wrong place, NL2, NL5 and NL10 are not about skill, they are about patience. Believe me there is no point in analyzing this players, they have no real range of hands that you can place them, they play random hands from random positions and bet random values, you really need to be a nit. Seriously, poker is much more than that but not on this levels. Imo, just learn the basics after that you can start worrying about more advanced stuff you won't need info on the other players until NL25 or so, making "plays" without understanding what you are doing is just trying to get lucky. Position, Starting Hands, Pot Odds, Implied Odds & FE Learn this first then try to analyze other people.

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On average I only see 1 of those kinds of players per table, everyone else is doing the whole nit it up thing. They do however adjust every single hand and don't have a strict plan on how to play hands, that is the only thing they do randomly imo but that just makes reads somewhat useless. I know a regular who limp raised aa utg and sometimes he bets it, just real hard to know what ppl have but it's always something good

isnt FR supposed to have less variance than 6 MAX?

I don't know, you can take what I say as you like it's just my opinion on the matter. FR to me seems like nutcard variance. You can play less hands because you get more cards to choose from each orbit so what people play is going to be very big compared to 6max where you need to steal more blinds.

sh what site you playing on ?

If you say stars then you have really no idea or even a grasp on what the concept nit means.

I'm assuming it's all pps + AJ and up maybe some suited connectors from button and QK suited.

It's not only about starting hands but this range you describe is tight enough, and i can tell you from experience, 1 out of 30 people in NL2 will play that way, so unless you are playing on a totally different site (not stars/not party) you must be lying (sorry).

I would've assumed stars would be even worse because the skill level there is higher o_O

street_hooker , try table selecting more, even at nl100 (Pokerstars) when i properly table select i am at better tables than you describe and i've been through the lower limits as well.. if at nl100 i can find tables with MINIMUM one player if not 2-3 who is playing quite loose and frankly is somewhat of a calling station, you most certainly can find them at lower limits, unless you are purposely queuing to join all the 8vpip tables. that said, i pretty much give due respect to the good players and i have a small edge by bluffing them but they're not really what i'm interested in.

you play to get into situations with bad players where your edge is the largest; yes there are players who you have a much smaller edge against because they are nut peddlers but you are really over exaggerating or looking in the wrong places if you really feel all of your tables are full of these sorts of players.

and yes i play full ring 9 max.

genjix u won something at nl5? ure minus huge amount on my stats. noted as a nit too lol.

On December 07 2008 00:38 andrewsidekick wrote: genjix u won something at nl5? ure minus huge amount on my stats. noted as a nit too lol.

yeah $80 and I moved to nl10. I am a bit of a nit

On December 07 2008 07:47 genjix wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2008 00:38 andrewsidekick wrote: genjix u won something at nl5? ure minus huge amount on my stats. noted as a nit too lol. yeah $80 and I moved to nl10. I am a bit of a nit

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