What to do?

PokerStars Game #22538856532: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/12/01 18:04:37 ET
Table 'Ludovica' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Zuries ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 2: CubeVII ($21.35 in chips)
Seat 3: esuark2007 ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: T1ltProof ($19 in chips)
Seat 5: firmware ($5.65 in chips)
Seat 6: cakylein ($7.65 in chips)
cakylein: posts small blind $0.05
Zuries: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Zuries [Ks Kd]
CubeVII: folds
esuark2007: folds
T1ltProof: raises $0.30 to $0.40
firmware: calls $0.40
cakylein: folds
Zuries: raises $1.60 to $2
T1ltProof: calls $1.60
firmware: folds
*** FLOP *** [2s Qc Js]
Zuries said, "you got aces?"
Zuries: bets $3
Zuries said, "ive got kings"
T1ltProof: raises $14 to $17 and is all-in
Zuries: ??????????????????????


Teh villains stats : 17/11/18

he's pretty tight and he's multi tabling.

i've 3bet bluffed him once and he folded. stole from him a lot. folded to cbet a lot. he 3bet my cbet once and i folded.

i also told him my hand....


mind games?

yeah he's obv playing mindgames with you here because hes a multitabling tag-nit -.-

1. idk why the fuck you talk to him

2. i'd check this flop and call 1 bet, play for pot control. the only hand in his range you beat is AQ, and he's unlikely to get too frisky with it here. if he starts betting with obvious intentions of going allin you can safely fold

snap call and celebrate. then talk shit once he's mucked - not before

he could have called rr to set mine. tell him ur hand = bad

id fold cos im a nit

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Are you asking what to do had you not told him your hand? Probably fold imo, because you're a bit deep.

btw if you've been keeping track of that kind of action whilst you've been playing, wp

jesus.. just put the f money in
and goddammit rebuy for 100bb once in your life

Don't chat.

Fold as played. You're deep and you just lost to pretty much all of his preflop calling range.

On December 01 2008 20:06 morph1 wrote: jesus.. just put the f money in and goddammit rebuy for 100bb once in your life

yeah let's just throw 170bb in!

I call.

GL

his overbet shove probably reduces the risk of him having JJ/QQ; usually they try to milk it a bit more.

Snappity and celebrate AQ

looks like a fold

On December 01 2008 21:54 PokerDoc88 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2008 20:06 morph1 wrote: jesus.. just put the f money in and goddammit rebuy for 100bb once in your life yeah let's just throw 170bb in!

rofl i though it's nl 25

my bad..
that changes things alot :D
probably fold


edit.. and actualy.. it was a misspots... i totaly missed thread,
wanted to post on that nl25 hand with AK
but what ever

snap mute yourself

i would call and iif he has AA its a suks but his total overbet looks like AQ and dosnt know how to play it. But you should defenitely not chat!!! All it does is give away info.

buy in full and use the hand converter plz

as far as the hand i think he has pocket jokers, youre screwed

also, lol at mind games at nl25

What is wrong with all you people saying buyin full, he's playing NL10.

This should be a pretty easy fold vs a tight multitabler.

instafold vs this villain
plus when you talk the only one that you could play mind games with is yourself,not a multitabling nit

Buy glasses.

deep is tough and causes more variance, don't play deep if you can't handle it properly but I don't think it should be a big problem at nl10.

On December 02 2008 01:41 vlseph wrote: snap mute yourself

fold, only thing u beat is AQ against most players. just think about what his 3BET calling range is and what part of that range would shove here. from the stats u have u can gather he's probly going to play pretty tight, therefore u beat nrly nothing in his range except sometimes AQ (which this type of player just calls the flop with most of the time imo)

Well i can't find the hand to post it here, but i called and he had KQ, i tooks his moneys

and the buyin in 10 dollars im at 17 because i won. not 25 and lost 8


i was thinking i should fold though. i thought he was on tilt because i won 7 dollars off him before

You must have put some legendary tilt in him if he called a 3bet w/ KQ and stacked off that lightly. Either that or NL10 sucks way more than I thought it did.

On December 03 2008 06:29 Zuries wrote: Well i can't find the hand to post it here, but i called and he had KQ, i tooks his moneys and the buyin in 10 dollars im at 17 because i won. not 25 and lost 8 i was thinking i should fold though. i thought he was on tilt because i won 7 dollars off him before

If you had asked me if I had Aces and then told me you had KK before I had acted I would have shoved over the top of you with complete air to rep the Aces. You had already talked yourself into the fact he had Aces which makes your call even more of a spew.

dont really think ur ahead much of the time against a multi tabling nit here

id still shove here tho coz his line makes no sense at all but then again .. its 10nl its not supposed to make sense

if he s a total nit ur crushed tho he d only shove like that with QJ QQ JJ

Fold on that board. The only thing you're a head of is TT and AK and that represents a very small part of his range imo.

Lol once again soul ownage by girlsrvicious damn all you nits

KQ? so he turned his hand into a bluff??
lol

On December 03 2008 08:26 edzwoo wrote: You must have put some legendary tilt in him if he called a 3bet w/ KQ and stacked off that lightly. Either that or NL10 sucks way more than I thought it did.

it does, WAY more...

i call: do you think he overbet shoves w QQ/JJ? It's unlikely he calls a 3bet w JQ, so were most likely ahead here. I just can't imagine he calls a 3bet then overbet shoves anything that has us beat... And stfu while playing

multitabling nit my ass
only if he has down syndrome

it seems that you frustrated him
however it's almost a two buyin shove and you didn't have something to indicate he would spazz out and do something retarded like he did (or knowledge that he overplays his hands)at the time so a fold is still a better play imo
all the rest about "he can't have a set because he would slowplay" etc are nonesense,especially for nits. They get a good hand and they play it like that,it's all they know how to do. The times when a random nit will make a brave 170 bb bluff are rare and you should treat them like that,unless you have a clear understanding that they are frustrated

On December 03 2008 06:29 Zuries wrote: i thought he was on tilt because i won 7 dollars off him before

that's not a safe assumption to make
and if it was a read it should be on your OP

he wasnt bluffing with his kq, he just hit top pair and didnt know what to do with it, other than "im not gonna fold this"

On December 03 2008 17:12 Liquid`Drone wrote: he wasnt bluffing with his kq, he just hit top pair and didnt know what to do with it, other than "im not gonna fold this"

I agree and he unknowingly turned it into a bluff when he overshoved instead of calling down

pro call IMO.

On December 03 2008 08:57 4kinggenius wrote: Show nested quote + On December 03 2008 06:29 Zuries wrote: Well i can't find the hand to post it here, but i called and he had KQ, i tooks his moneys and the buyin in 10 dollars im at 17 because i won. not 25 and lost 8 i was thinking i should fold though. i thought he was on tilt because i won 7 dollars off him before If you had asked me if I had Aces and then told me you had KK before I had acted I would have shoved over the top of you with complete air to rep the Aces. You had already talked yourself into the fact he had Aces which makes your call even more of a spew.

i knew he didnt have aces...