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Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 11:53. Posts 4453

I started playing a higher stake than I usually do. I feel very comfortable playing there. I can see who is better than me and who I can win from. I see a lot of openings from many regulars and a lot of errors and there are an abundance of fish.

Since my opening up of the higher limit I've started to run bad. River suck-outs, etc., non-stop. Past 10 hours(about 7k hands) I've played I'm running at 8 buyins below expectation and this isn't counting the things that HEM doesn't collect (ex. someone spiking 3 outer on river then going all-in for 1 bb).

Obviously I've run much much worse than this but coupled with an attempt to move-up to a new limit it heightens everything. I think it may be effecting my play in a negative way.

Should I stick to the higher limit or move down a level to just get things on the straight and level. What have others experiences been?

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Jubert69   United States. Nov 19 2008 11:56. Posts 3191

If you feel comfortable with it, and your BR allows you to, stay at the limits.


handbanana21   United States. Nov 19 2008 11:58. Posts 3037

i like to drop down for a session, stomp some ass, regain some confidence, then go back up


Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 12:00. Posts 4453

Well I still open up lower limit tables(2 levels below) if I see good ones. So I don't entirely restrict myself to a limit. I'm just wondering if I should change my PS filter to take out the highest of the 3 limits.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

n0rthf4ce    United States. Nov 19 2008 12:03. Posts 8119


  On November 19 2008 10:56 Subaru wrote:
If you feel comfortable with it, and your BR allows you to, stay at the limits.

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tomson    Poland. Nov 19 2008 12:10. Posts 1982

Hard not to dip into the platitudes here.

If you really believe you have an edge it's worth taking shots. However no matter what people say if you keep getting stomped it will start affecting your game/confidence soon. Just yesterday I think I played really good, but I kept losing and losing and losing and at one point I stopped believing I could win that day. That's when I quit.

Peace of mind cant be bought. 

Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 12:13. Posts 4453

Submitted by :



Versus a bad player with 2 stars. Felt he was weak on preflop call and on flop call. After I lost I thought I shoulda check-folded for like 10 minutes until I came to my senses. Doing bad is making me think stupid things.

Edited out to reflect big blinds. LOL noticed I typoed VILLAIN and copy/pasted it into every slot.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 19/11/2008 12:34

k2o4   United States. Nov 19 2008 12:14. Posts 4803

Sounds like you're getting mentally messed up which is pretty standard when losing while just moving up, no matter how well you play cause the money is doubled. IMO, even if your BR is big enough to stay up there, I'd suggest moving back to the old limit till you start running well and then jump back up. That way you don't build too many negative associations and don't start to spew at a higher limit.

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Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 12:18. Posts 4453

I'm afraid of losing the good feelings toward poker I've been able to generate lately. Whenever I get sucked out or beat I always say nh. Two days ago I gave a sarcastic "wp" after a suckout and felt kinda like a chump afterwards for letting it get to me.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 19/11/2008 12:19

Baalim   Mexico. Nov 19 2008 12:21. Posts 34312

play it safe, move down, get on ur feet, and try again... time is all you got.

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Nov 19 2008 12:39. Posts 8918

Id say move down, it can be pretty depressing even if you are comfortable with the level. I for example feel pretty comfortable at nl600 lately but when I lost 2k in one day for the first time I felt kinda pissed, so the loss does get to you at some level. You should prevent it from escalating and becoming a huge beat even at risk of grinding a lower limit for some more time. Or you could combine like 2 tables of that higher limit and keep expanding those and reducing the lower gradually like I do, it makes a smoother transition.


nolan   Ireland. Nov 19 2008 12:43. Posts 6205

im always a fan of conservative style br mgmt.

that being said, i have friends who are not and are much more paid than i

that being said, im still rather paid.

its a risk/reward thing as always.

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Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 13:02. Posts 4453

I'm also only down 1.5 buyin over 8.5k hands that I've played so its not like I'm losing my shirt just having stress wear away on an extremely positive attitude.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Jamie217   Canada. Nov 19 2008 13:32. Posts 4351

fwiw if you are who I think you are ( pretty sure you are lol) you play much much differently at the limit you are attempting to play than your previous, unless you have changed your game a fair bit since ive played with you last

however you do seem to be playing ok imo, just set a quick stop loss every sesh and grind it out


terrybunny19240   United States. Nov 19 2008 13:52. Posts 13829

I don't think its possible to win without confidence.. even though you're only down a bit you need to have that confidence. This helped me a ton even though I am a pitiful microstakes grinder.

So if you don't have it at the moment, move down or take two days off or so?


Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 14:36. Posts 4453


  On November 19 2008 12:32 Jamie217 wrote:
fwiw if you are who I think you are ( pretty sure you are lol) you play much much differently at the limit you are attempting to play than your previous, unless you have changed your game a fair bit since ive played with you last

however you do seem to be playing ok imo, just set a quick stop loss every sesh and grind it out



I'm playing on another level than what I was last year. I think I'm ready for the next level of poker.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Jamie217   Canada. Nov 19 2008 14:51. Posts 4351

but you have been playin a little with me and you are who I think you are right?


Luckb0xx   Germany. Nov 19 2008 15:17. Posts 2069


  On November 19 2008 11:13 Maynard! wrote:
Submitted by :



Versus a bad player with 2 stars. Felt he was weak on preflop call and on flop call. After I lost I thought I shoulda check-folded for like 10 minutes until I came to my senses. Doing bad is making me think stupid things.

Edited out to reflect big blinds. LOL noticed I typoed VILLAIN and copy/pasted it into every slot.




how do you get this BB converter?

pfffffff... 

domyouji   Zimbabwe. Nov 19 2008 15:25. Posts 435

this is probably 25nl since getting stacked results in a rake of $2 , i'd say you need to practice a little more hand reading because it seems your playing on the first level which is your own 2 cards

to live the dream you gotta play the gameLast edit: 19/11/2008 15:26

domyouji   Zimbabwe. Nov 19 2008 15:32. Posts 435

also just because they play bad & weak dosen't mean they can't stack you

to live the dream you gotta play the game 

Gawuss   Poland. Nov 19 2008 15:40. Posts 2336


  On November 19 2008 14:17 Luckb0xx wrote:
how do you get this BB converter?

When people ask: What nationality is this guy raking in all the pots? The answer invariably comes back Poland, Poland. Again and again - Karma 

Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 15:46. Posts 4453

The BBs were converted manually in text pad.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 15:47. Posts 4453


  On November 19 2008 13:51 Jamie217 wrote:
but you have been playin a little with me and you are who I think you are right?



Possibly.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 15:48. Posts 4453


  On November 19 2008 14:25 domyouji wrote:
this is probably 25nl since getting stacked results in a rake of $2 , i'd say you need to practice a little more hand reading because it seems your playing on the first level which is your own 2 cards



You know what? I agree with you.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Jamie217   Canada. Nov 19 2008 16:08. Posts 4351


  On November 19 2008 14:47 Maynard! wrote:
Show nested quote +



Possibly.


well you seem to want your name to be very private or i could just say it lol


collegesucks   United States. Nov 19 2008 16:22. Posts 5780


  On November 19 2008 15:08 Jamie217 wrote:
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well you seem to want your name to be very private or i could just say it lol



im pretty sure his name was already revealed in another recent thread -_-


Roald   Tuvalu. Nov 19 2008 16:38. Posts 2683


  On November 19 2008 14:46 Maynard! wrote:
The BBs were converted manually in text pad.



You went through all that effort to obfuscate the FUCKING STAKE YOU'RE PLAYING.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU MUST BE THE CENTER OF THE GODDAMNED UNIVERSE PLEASED TO MEET YOU

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gawdawaful   Canada. Nov 19 2008 16:59. Posts 9015

pretty sure hes not fgators collegesucks

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Deamon615   United States. Nov 19 2008 17:14. Posts 63

must have moved up from .1/.2 to .2/.5


Bigbobm   United States. Nov 19 2008 17:41. Posts 5513


  On November 19 2008 14:46 Maynard! wrote:
The BBs were converted manually in text pad.



at least edit out the hand history #
anyone with 15 seconds and the curiosity can get the entire hh.

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the cleaner   Germany. Nov 19 2008 19:22. Posts 3014


  On November 19 2008 11:21 Baal wrote:
play it safe, move down, get on ur feet, and try again... time is all you got.



this

there are no facts only interpretations 

teej1985    United Kingdom. Nov 19 2008 20:03. Posts 716

we have no time to stand and stare

fuck mee... fuck U! 

Maynard!   United States. Nov 19 2008 20:36. Posts 4453

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP.Last edit: 19/11/2008 20:50

terrybunny19240   United States. Nov 19 2008 22:13. Posts 13829

wuts going on in here


btw should I like get a different account or what I use the same name everywhere ^_____^


 



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