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On November 13 2008 02:12 eightfourO wrote: Back to creating a military... An extreme majority of military personnel is conservative and would be pissed if guns were taken away from citizens/themselves when they are citizens again. If something were to happen, most of the military would leave and create a militia...and probably bring supplies they would need along. Also, shit you think it would be hard to get automatic weapons?? go anywhere... like i dunno, mexico, venezula, columbia...they would be happy to deal with anyone involving the black market.

Ok, so why do guns need to be legalised if the army can just steal all the supplies they need and create a militia?


Which of course wouldn't happen because if you know any history you'd know the vast majority of people to take over a country (95%+) had the military behind them or were in control of the military themselves (how else do they 'take over').

If you think the average soldier would 'revolt and create a militia' you obviously don't know too much about army's because the ONE thing you do in the army is what you're told by your superior officers. Basically the vast majority of Americans would just be like "Oh no we've been taken over thats annoying hopefully they'll go away or someone ELSE will do something about it." And the minority that do decide to revolt would get pwnd.

Not trying to be horrible but if you write in a paper that if guns are taken away from the average citizen that the army would be 'pissed off' and revolt because they are conservative, well your paper will come back with red lines right through that part because not only is it complete guess work but is completely inaccurate. Like saying if the right to play blackjack is taken away, all poker players would take their cards and fight the casino's where in reality although the majority of poker players belive you should be able to play blackjack they don't care that much to fight against the casino where they play and lose their money for it. Which we might do but in reality its very unlikely isn't it, so to say it so matter of fact is just plain... guesswork (doesn't go very well in papers).

Ok i saw this b4 bed and it's a legit response...

the ONE thing you do in the army is what you're told by your superior officers.

So all you need is a few members of higher rankings to realize that America is being turned into something that was never intended and the rights and freedoms are being taken away, and there goes a nice big chunk following him. If need be, i gaurantee there will be plenty of people to join.

Devon, seriously...Read everything on this website.
http://www.mcsm.org/kennesaw.html
89% reduction in ALL crimes in the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, which in 1980 enacting all of it's population to own a firearm. 3 murders in 16 years. Town of currently 21,000 people. It's amazing. 89% less rapes, 3 murders in SIXTEEN YEARS all because of MORE GUNS.

guns are bad becouse they can give give any retard power.

On November 13 2008 03:29 brambolius wrote: guns are bad becouse they can give give any retard power.

A tard with power is not goint to have power for long.

Devon, if someone was using you as a human shield and had a gun to your head, and i had a .30-06 250 yds away, i could save your life.
yeah guns are bad.

On November 13 2008 01:00 eightfourO wrote: the good outweighs the bad.

Dude, the only good thing about guns is that they are fun to shoot.

guns for defense is a joke, since the "bad people" you want to defend against can also have guns.

sure, a helpless person can use a gun to defend himself.

then again, a person fully able to handle himself becomes a helpless person when confronted with a gun.

its a vicious circle obviously, and if you think otherwise, get some perspective plzkthx

On November 13 2008 03:31 eightfourO wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2008 03:29 brambolius wrote: guns are bad becouse they can give give any retard power. A tard with power is not goint to have power for long.

LOL under what rock have u been living????

I mean, I'm not american so I can't even pretend to think like you guys, sometimes it shocks me.. (to be honest not so much in the last few years as it did pre 9/11 when literally every American I spoke to online used to be so ignorant and say things like. "You're only pissed off cos we saved yer ass in WW2," or "America could go over there and kick your ass anyday," or (which I still here quite often actually unlike the other two (probably because I'm speaking to older Americans these days) "Everyone only hates America because they're jealous."

This is OT but America needs to get over this early 90's thinking that everyone wants to catch up and be as good as the USA because the simple FACTS are that its not 1945-95 anymore the rest of the world HAS caught up, the scandanavian countries are the happiest people in the world with some of the best healthcare etcetc.


EightFourO what you essentially just said to be that if this 'right' was taken away you 'guarantee' that a bunch of the top generals would realise that all their rights and freedoms are being taken away and a big chunk of soldiers would follow him. Well thats just complete guesswork and I think that its very unlikely. In my opinion (I know very little about you) you must live in quite a small American town and be relatively young/naive (which isn't necessarily a bad thing - I was talking to my girlfriends nephew the other day and he was telling me about how the RAF (royal air force) is the best airforce in the world and it's nice to think like that when you're young or in general anyway but the fact is it's simply not true. The simple facts are that the generals most likely wouldn't cause civil war over this. Yes its nice to think that the rights in your constitution are factual and no American would let them change. However these rights in your constitution have changed and evolved slowly over time - I'm not going to research it at the moment but off the top of my head I'm sure when you finally earned your independence the citizens weren't restricted as to what kind of gun they could have I'm sure they could have the most advanced rifle that was around at the time.

However when technology improved the interpretation of these 'fundamental US rights' changed, yet the vast majority of Americans (ie non NRA) accept the fact that they can't have full automatic machine guns and rocket launchers etc. The constitution is ammended and re-interpreted all the time, don't be fooled and think otherwise.

And this is exactly what would happen in this case they'd be a bit of kur-fuffle about it all and then 90-99% of Americans would accept the change.

Oh and you're whole tone in this thead is wrong for example your quote

"I just read this before bed and its a legit response"

Honestly people don't need your approval before it is a legit response.

On November 13 2008 03:33 eightfourO wrote: Devon, if someone was using you as a human shield and had a gun to your head, and i had a .30-06 250 yds away, i could save your life. yeah guns are bad.

omfg this fails on SOOOOO many levels.

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Oak Cliff, well the average life of someone in a gang is 19. (first thing i saw on google)...and they shoot a gun sideways. I've talked to a police officer, he doesn't even get nervous because he knows that a bullet is not going to hit him when they shoot sideways like idiots. Therefore, a tard won't have power long.

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On November 13 2008 03:36 brambolius wrote: Show nested quote + On November 13 2008 03:33 eightfourO wrote: Devon, if someone was using you as a human shield and had a gun to your head, and i had a .30-06 250 yds away, i could save your life. yeah guns are bad. omfg this fails on SOOOOO many levels.

people can hit a quarter from 2 miles away. i would hope i could hit a 4in circle from 250 yds with a scope...

Devon QFT I didn't want to be somewhat insulting to eightfourO because I'd like to have a reasonable discussion - doesn't seem likely... When I used to walk to school with my friends aged 11-13 we used to have conversations like this.. Yet I think they actually were more intellectual.

Two week ban because im sick of your stupidity