On October 30 2008 21:13 SpasticInk wrote:
in sweden a guy with that income (not from poker tough) would pay someting like 1,32 millions in yearly taxation
yes, but sweden, denmark and a few other EU countries enjoy many many many more benefits than the americans enjoy (and even a couple more than canada).
a lot of people say sweden is *too* progressively liberal or whatever, i am a huge supporter of the way you guys have been running things.
apparently denmark has the highest income taxes in the world? although, they also enjoy great medical care, great infrastructure, very little-to-no corruption in politics (aka, lol at USA) and FREE (yes, free) higher levels of education.
as a canadian, fuck.. that sexy free university + masters degree looks pretty goddamned sexy
Yup we are always among the highest tax payers, but we were also: Happiest people in the world 2008, Best city to live in 2008, Best country to conduct business in 2008. (All renowned studies by big universities or magasines), we get 1200$ a month for studying, free healthcare, free education, free elderly care, pensions when you get old, money if you get unemployed, social security, 1.6% unemployed.
We use reverse trickle down system (socialism) and it works great over here, no really poor people, big middle class, some rich and a few stinking rich. I think my tax money is well spent and I dont think our wages would be as high as they are without this high tax.
I started out with nothing and I still got most of it left
On October 30 2008 20:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
nader obv, poll is rigged.
read the txt, nader not being in there is already explained in OP and comments.
On October 30 2008 20:47 Svenman87 wrote:
wtf... where the fuck is Bob Barr?
Libertarian party!!!! ONE TIMEEEE!!!!
Sry sven, same thing as the nadar stuff. Plus barr tends to pull votes from mccain and he needs all the help he can get in this poll.
On October 30 2008 20:55 eightfourO wrote:
250K-500K a yr is "upper middle class"??? wtf does that make a family about 65k/yr?? lower class?
No it's not. What most of us don't understand (I just learned this recently) is that if you make over 250k a year you only get extra tax on the money you make ABOVE 250k. So say you make 260k a year, then your extra taxes are ONLY on that extra 10k.
So the way it breaks down is:
Under 150K = big tax cut
150k - 200k = Tax cut
200k - 250k = Taxes don't change
250k - 337k = Minor tax increase (3% on money over 250k)
337k and above = Tax increase (4.6% on money over 337k)
At least that's how I understand it.
The 250k - 600k tax increase is very small, and tenbagger will have to help me here with specifics, but I think it's like 3% on the amount over 250k. So if you made 300k you'd get a 3% tax increase on 50k and everything else is the same.
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Svenman87 United States. Oct 30 2008 23:19. Posts 4636
On October 30 2008 21:58 jkpickett wrote:
neither...i'll go "waste my vote" on ron paul and feel damn good about myself.
why would you vote for Ron Paul when Bob Barr is running? : You truly are just a Ron Paul fan boi
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TalentedTom Canada. Oct 30 2008 23:40. Posts 20070
Don't let Barack fool you guys, hes just supressing "it", and he can only sustain this level of composure for so long, it's just a matter of time before this happens:
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
On October 30 2008 20:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
nader obv, poll is rigged.
read the txt, nader not being in there is already explained in OP and comments.
On October 30 2008 20:47 Svenman87 wrote:
wtf... where the fuck is Bob Barr?
Libertarian party!!!! ONE TIMEEEE!!!!
Sry sven, same thing as the nadar stuff. Plus barr tends to pull votes from mccain and he needs all the help he can get in this poll.
On October 30 2008 20:55 eightfourO wrote:
250K-500K a yr is "upper middle class"??? wtf does that make a family about 65k/yr?? lower class?
No it's not. What most of us don't understand (I just learned this recently) is that if you make over 250k a year you only get extra tax on the money you make ABOVE 250k. So say you make 260k a year, then your extra taxes are ONLY on that extra 10k.
So the way it breaks down is:
Under 150K = big tax cut
150k - 200k = Tax cut
200k - 250k = Taxes don't change
250k - 600k = Minor tax increase (3% on money over 250k)
600k and above = Tax increase (4.6% on money over 600k)
At least that's how I understand it.
The 250k - 600k tax increase is very small, and tenbagger will have to help me here with specifics, but I think it's like 3% on the amount over 250k. So if you made 300k you'd get a 3% tax increase on 50k and everything else is the same.
Ahh ok, thanks teabagger, I'll go fix that in my OP.
and thanks for not taking my monies at the tables tonight =) I just decided to dodge you as much as possible, hehe. Funny how that guy asked if we were colluding and then said "teabagger doesn't seem like a fish to me!"
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masterfrywad United States. Oct 31 2008 01:38. Posts 329
On October 30 2008 20:36 TenBagger wrote:
I just did some rough math, and yes I know that there are a lot of other variables/deductions that would alter these numbers. But these numbers will be generally accurate for the vast majority of people.
For daut to pay an extra 100K a year under obama's tax plan, as a single filer, he would have to earn $2,405,646.20 a year. Even if he made a million bucks, his taxes under obama would increase by $35,340 which is a large sum in absolute terms but represents only 3.5% of his total income.
But if you do report over a million bucks in income, as much as I dislike the republicans, I really cannot blame you for voting with McCain. Even if you're reporting over 500K a year, I'd say you have a legitimate basis to vote republican. But if you are earning between 250K-500K a year, the increase in taxes is so small and insignificant that it shouldn't even be a major consideration for a rational individual.
less increase than i expected for sure, but ill almost certainly be making over 500k
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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TenBagger United States. Oct 31 2008 04:55. Posts 2018
then in my mind, you are justified if you do decide to go mccain.
On October 31 2008 00:53 lachlan wrote:
Poll: Who should be LP's president?
(Vote): Baal
(Vote): [vital]Myth
(Vote): RaiNKhAN
(Vote): Rekrul
(Vote): TalentedTom
(Vote): Fazi
(Vote): Other
OMG. Are there other candidates for president?!? I've never heard of them lol. Why tf do they even bother getting votes when they have no chance and what retards vote for them when they have no chance of winning. Giving away their votes...
On October 31 2008 04:50 Liofle wrote:
OMG. Are there other candidates for president?!? I've never heard of them lol. Why tf do they even bother getting votes when they have no chance and what retards vote for them when they have no chance of winning. Giving away their votes...
im not sure im USA but in Mexico a party gets a share of the federal funds for campaigns etc on a % depending on how many votes they gain, otherwise u wouldnt get new parties ever.
Obama plans to spend America broke, "Altogether, Mr. Obama is promising at least $4.3 trillion of increased spending and reduced tax revenue from 2009 to 2018 -- roughly an extra $430 billion a year by 2012-2013" - Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122480790550265061.html?mod=article-outset-box
There is almost no way the American government can source these funds. It is described in detail in the article, but basically "the harsh reality is that this Democrat's quest for hundreds of billions more revenue each year would have to reach deep into the pockets of the people much lower on the economic ladder. Even then he'd come up short."
In addition Obama plans to give licences and social security benefits to illegal immigrants (in the past he has already voted for these reforms S.Amdt.3985 to S.2611). If you have any conservative view, this should immediately strike him off the list.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake - Napolean Bonaparte
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fakeshaver United States. Oct 31 2008 10:57. Posts 1313
i think obama is going to win the electoral map by a landslide
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jkpickett United States. Oct 31 2008 12:39. Posts 1403
On October 30 2008 21:58 jkpickett wrote:
neither...i'll go "waste my vote" on ron paul and feel damn good about myself.
why would you vote for Ron Paul when Bob Barr is running? : You truly are just a Ron Paul fan boi
You truly are just a troll for my posts! I can't keep count of the times I make a post and sure enough Sven has to make some tired comment about it. You really can't get enough of me can you? And to answer your question, I'm not really voting. It's a waste of time and I don't like to perpetuate the system. I can expect to open this thread tomorrow and see some rebuttal with a lame attempt at humor from you again and I look forward to it. How's you boy Scot in Iraq doing btw?
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