400k vpp to SNE in 73 days - Page 2

What about this guy who tried to make 10k in a month at nl25 ? He had a webcam set up and shit, guess he failed ? This guy won't make it either, the only person that would be able to pull a perf like this is LA and even him couldn't play 20k hands/day for 78 days... This is just someone with a biiiiig ego that would need a reality check imo.

if it were IntenseDawg he'd do it ez

im betting 2,400 against him.

mmm on second thought its only 400 bucks nah the odds are too silly to get the money escrowed for so long.

On October 17 2008 13:18 Baal wrote: im betting 2,400 against him.

aye good bet

this is so incredibly mentally draining assuming you play every single day even something like 13h a day 5 days a week is a incredibly difficult bet but like 10x easier relative to this

I know wcgrider is well respected on 2p2, but before he did his grinding prop bet like ½ a year ago he was not even a mod on the site, he is grinding midstakes (100K escrowed is a lot of money) and the fact that another well respected 2p2 mod recently ran away with a lot of money in a transfer with another mod, makes me worry a bit, I not claiming wcgrider would cheat though, just stating my worries... But it seems like the only way to lose, that guy is going to die or atleast go insane if he gets close to doing this, or of course it could be some sort of angleshot.

And like Baal says the return is too small considering your money is escrowed for like 3 months + there is that very small risk of losing it all

i usually think the guy doing it has a pretty good idea if he can make it or not....but even i think this is impossible

considering he doesnt even need to win, it's possible.... but yeah gotta skip christmas and shit

On October 17 2008 13:29 Zorglub wrote: I know wcgrider is well respected on 2p2, but before he did his grinding prop bet like ½ a year ago he was not even a mod on the site, he is grinding midstakes (100K escrowed is a lot of money) and the fact that another well respected 2p2 mod recently ran away with a lot of money in a transfer with another mod, makes me worry a bit, I not claiming wcgrider would cheat though, just stating my worries... But it seems like the only way to lose, that guy is going to die or atleast go insane if he gets close to doing this, or of course it could be some sort of angleshot. And like Baal says the return is too small considering your money is escrowed for like 3 months + there is that very small risk of losing it all

That is the same concern i have, i dot trust him, if it were like Nanonoko or something like that i would do it.

Biggest risk here is trusting the escrow with your money. Also this guy is strictly a 1/2 player. He's also planning a move-up to 2/4 alongside this?

Who is placing bets on other side? Pokerpoopy most likely has a 10-15k BR MAX. Rider also plays a mix of 1/2 and 2/4. We aren't dealing with people with deep pockets here.

100% bet on one side, escrowed money, no money to pay-off if lose. Looks like a scam to me.

i never thouthg i would agree with Maynard but i do, the real risk here is the escrow.

not because of the bettor, becaus he doesnt need much money since 6 to 1 allow him to bet his entire roll, and since he will play hundreds of thousands of hands, that is not an issue since he will make it back, but we need a different escrow.

On October 17 2008 13:54 Maynard! wrote: Biggest risk here is trusting the escrow with your money. Also this guy is strictly a 1/2 player. He's also planning a move-up to 2/4 alongside this? Who is placing bets on other side? Pokerpoopy most likely has a 10-15k BR MAX. Rider also plays a mix of 1/2 and 2/4. We aren't dealing with people with deep pockets here. 100% bet on one side, escrowed money, no money to pay-off if lose. Looks like a scam to me.

He's getting 6 to 1 odds. As long as the people involved are trustworthy it should be fine. Multiple Escrow would probably be better though say 3-4 of the big names in the community so it isn't one person that is holding all the money. Considering its only $200 that he has to pay back for every $1200 in action he gets he probably can afford it and he'll probably cap the action at some point.

wcgrider is also escrow AND judge in the bet, which is a bit unusual

Good chance they're going to try to cheat somehow.

On October 17 2008 13:37 Fayth wrote: considering he doesnt even need to win, it's possible.... but yeah gotta skip christmas and shit

uh yeah he can play 8/6 and do the bare minimum to not lose a LOT... how much can you even lose playing a bunch of 1/2 6max like a huge nit that just mindlessly instafolds every hand but aces and how much does he stand to win by completing it? this would be a bet way more worth taking if he had to win at like 1ptbb+ or something on top. also yeah concerns about the trustworthiness of the escrow etc are totally legit too

its not that i dont trust wcgrider, its that i dont like him. but the fact that id have to hold up 1200 or 2400 for 73 days for 200 or 400 return is a stupid riskeward ratio.

this clearly seems like the type of bet where this guy is simply trying to motivate himself to play a bunch of hands, and figures that he will make so much money from all the hours he plays that he will easily cover the losses and then make a bunch extra. i can see this going two ways:
- he doesnt even come close to finishing the prop bet, but makes a lot of money
- he comes close (within 100k vpp) of finishing the prop bet and is breakeven

On October 17 2008 15:51 RaSZi wrote: he plays 25-50 regularly.. i doubt he will suffer a lot of significant downswings on 1-2 even though u 50 table it.. it's just too easy to beat. Dunno.. i mean.. i had 3 different weeks in which i made 100k+vpp. Hard to say.. i think i could do it.. so that kinda makes me not want to bet.. plus 6:1 is not profitable enough.. we're not all poorusers accepting 300:1 disadvantage..

You must have him confused. Pokerpoopy is 100% 1/2 player. Maybe he played high stakes once upon a time for a little bit and went bust but he puts in hundreds of thousands of hands now at 1/2.

i don't really like the smell of this bet either. not saying they are scammers or w/e just that the small % it doesn't go smoothly is way higher than most other bets i've seen like this. if this guy plays 1/2 how does he have all this extra liquid cash to escrow to wcgrider prior to the bet? i also really dislike escrowing to wcgrider. sure he's probably reliable but why the hell aren't they using someone more reputable where the money held is a small % of their net worth and not potentially more money than their current bankroll. another very big point is wcgrider and rando 1/2 guy aren't making large transfers among the high stakes community, they aren't selling pieces of themselves in bigger games, they aren't getting staked, probably 99% of the community has no idea who these guys are or what they look like. flat out, welshing on this bet would basically not effect them one bit.

agree with most of the posts here.
this is very fishy

On October 17 2008 15:51 RaSZi wrote: he plays 25-50 regularly.. i doubt he will suffer a lot of significant downswings on 1-2 even though u 50 table it.. it's just too easy to beat. Dunno.. i mean.. i had 3 different weeks in which i made 100k+vpp. Hard to say.. i think i could do it.. so that kinda makes me not want to bet.. plus 6:1 is not profitable enough.. we're not all poorusers accepting 300:1 disadvantage..

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