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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 15 2008 09:37. Posts 9687 | | | |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 15 2008 09:47. Posts 9205 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 08:23 Baal wrote:
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especify, i can reply to that silly question, however somebody with passion enough to devote his life to revolution rarely lives a gray life. |
The revolutionary's life is missing on a ton of things so if you don't pity it like you did for the other guy it's obvious that it's because you're sympathetic to the meaning that he's given to his life.
Of course I'm sure you wouldn't feel that a guy striving for a communistic or a fascist revolution lives a life worth living
Do you see the contradiction yet?
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Nice assumptiong there buddy ROFL you are an idiot... but good thing you are sure i think a life devoted to communist revolution is not worth living LOL.
Its not about missing some things, if you dont get married you dont experience having your own family, but i never claimed its required to life a full life, if you dont drink you miss other part too, and i never claimed that u must drink in order to live a full life god dammnit why do you even bother dignifying your idiotic post, since you started with the "revolutionary life" thing i knew something really stupid was coming.
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I wonder if you'll ever manage to reply to something without the "rofl lol idiot" etc insults.
I was trying to point out that evaluating a lifestyle as fullfilling could not possibly be based on whether it is passionate or not,fondamentalists are the most passionate people around.
If I made a wrong assumption about the way you see the life of a devoted communist it's because
a) you claim to be an anarchist and at least where I come from anarchists are enemies with the communists
b) you are judgemental of different lifestyles than yours in general,I wouldn't assume that you'd suddenly stop being like that towards people that you think have stupid goals in life.
In any case don't even bother to reply if you can't communicate like a calm rational person.
If you think this is also very stupid for you to answer in such a manner keep your genious answer to yourself and let me bathe in my ignorance non irritated |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 15 2008 09:58. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
Sacrasm is a great way to argue a point but since you seem to be at a 14 year olds level ill try to keep it simple.
Its funny how you phrase it "full and amazing life" because that is the kind of value judgement I was trying to avoid. Many people lead lives that I find inspiring and cool but I know it is not for me. To take an example, I have always admired concert pianists enormously. The way they have dedicated their lives to create pure fucking beauty with just their hands and an instrument just blows my mind. At the same time, I know that I could never give up that much time on one single thing, I am not prepared to make the sacrefices of their lifestyle. So I admire them, but I dont want to be them.
It works the other way aswell, some people lead lives and have prioreties that dont appeal to me at all, like your wow geek example. They key point though, is that its not my opinion on what a good life is that matters it is theirs. We are all unique individuals, with unique priorieties and values and judging a completely diffrent persons lifestyle with the basis of your own values is just arrogant and stupid. If the wow geek is happy and feels he is leading a full life, then hey kudos to him. He has achieved something that I think many are still aspiring to achieve. Im not one to tell him that his life is unfullfilling just cause it would be to me.
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
Sarcasm CAN be a great way to argue a point, you sarcasm didnt imply anythint good to argue, it was just stupid.
Well its hard to not use a vague judgement on life, since its obviuosly a subjective subject.
You can find many inspiring lives too difficult to live and that you are not willing to sacrifice so much to follow their steps, however you cannot say they lived gray boring unpassionate lifes, and that is the point.
What you fail to see is that the WoW kid not happy, no matter if he says so, you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
I really dont see any relation at all with the gothkids video wtf are you saying -_-?, when did i fucking state life is pain and misery or something among their lives? what the fuck?
Oh and what the fuck is up with you randomly throwing the "uneduated" thing, i am not educated in what way Saki? please enlighten me. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 15 2008 10:04. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 08:47 lebowski wrote:
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On October 15 2008 08:23 Baal wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 07:46 lebowski wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 07:22 Baal wrote:
especify, i can reply to that silly question, however somebody with passion enough to devote his life to revolution rarely lives a gray life. |
The revolutionary's life is missing on a ton of things so if you don't pity it like you did for the other guy it's obvious that it's because you're sympathetic to the meaning that he's given to his life.
Of course I'm sure you wouldn't feel that a guy striving for a communistic or a fascist revolution lives a life worth living
Do you see the contradiction yet?
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Nice assumptiong there buddy ROFL you are an idiot... but good thing you are sure i think a life devoted to communist revolution is not worth living LOL.
Its not about missing some things, if you dont get married you dont experience having your own family, but i never claimed its required to life a full life, if you dont drink you miss other part too, and i never claimed that u must drink in order to live a full life god dammnit why do you even bother dignifying your idiotic post, since you started with the "revolutionary life" thing i knew something really stupid was coming.
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I wonder if you'll ever manage to reply to something without the "rofl lol idiot" etc insults.
I was trying to point out that evaluating a lifestyle as fullfilling could not possibly be based on whether it is passionate or not,fondamentalists are the most passionate people around.
If I made a wrong assumption about the way you see the life of a devoted communist it's because
a) you claim to be an anarchist and at least where I come from anarchists are enemies with the communists
b) you are judgemental of different lifestyles than yours in general,I wouldn't assume that you'd suddenly stop being like that towards people that you think have stupid goals in life.
In any case don't even bother to reply if you can't communicate like a calm rational person.
If you think this is also very stupid for you to answer in such a manner keep your genious answer to yourself and let me bathe in my ignorance non irritated |
I already put an example of a person who has very different goals and views in life and yet i consider him somebody with a fulfilling life... and no your assumption is absolutely wrong, i am not judgemental of different lifestyles than my own, again it clarified that to saki in previous posts i dont see why would u post about that again.
PS: no i dont think i can have a discussion with a "lol idiot" insult when i read a really dumb post i gotta say it. |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 15 2008 10:18. Posts 9205 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 09:04 Baal wrote:
and no your assumption is absolutely wrong, i am not judgemental of different lifestyles than my own, again it clarified that to saki in previous posts i dont see why would u post about that again.
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then what is this?
| | On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
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you also never answered to this
| | On October 15 2008 08:47 lebowski wrote:
evaluating a lifestyle as fullfilling could not possibly be based on whether it is passionate or not,fondamentalists are the most passionate people around.
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Also now that you can write insult free enlighten me about the retardedness of my previous post because I really can't see it.When someone makes a wrong assumption people usually point it out instead of acting like they're on coke |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 15 2008 10:28. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 09:18 lebowski wrote:
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On October 15 2008 09:04 Baal wrote:
and no your assumption is absolutely wrong, i am not judgemental of different lifestyles than my own, again it clarified that to saki in previous posts i dont see why would u post about that again.
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then what is this?
| | On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
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you also never answered to this
| | On October 15 2008 08:47 lebowski wrote:
evaluating a lifestyle as fullfilling could not possibly be based on whether it is passionate or not,fondamentalists are the most passionate people around.
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Also now that you can write insult free enlighten me about the retardedness of my previous post because I really can't see it.When someone makes a wrong assumption people usually point it out instead of acting like they're on coke
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did you quote correctly? because i dont understand the first two parts, what do you mean with "what is this", and what didnt i answer?
on the third part, i thought your post was really dumb cuz you were trying to "trap" me into the revolutionary thing because you thought i were going to say the lifes of others who didnt share my views on life are wrong (communism?), but why would i, im talking here about fullfilling or passionate lives against boring gray ones. |
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SakiSaki   Sweden. Oct 15 2008 10:52. Posts 9687 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
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On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
Sacrasm is a great way to argue a point but since you seem to be at a 14 year olds level ill try to keep it simple.
Its funny how you phrase it "full and amazing life" because that is the kind of value judgement I was trying to avoid. Many people lead lives that I find inspiring and cool but I know it is not for me. To take an example, I have always admired concert pianists enormously. The way they have dedicated their lives to create pure fucking beauty with just their hands and an instrument just blows my mind. At the same time, I know that I could never give up that much time on one single thing, I am not prepared to make the sacrefices of their lifestyle. So I admire them, but I dont want to be them.
It works the other way aswell, some people lead lives and have prioreties that dont appeal to me at all, like your wow geek example. They key point though, is that its not my opinion on what a good life is that matters it is theirs. We are all unique individuals, with unique priorieties and values and judging a completely diffrent persons lifestyle with the basis of your own values is just arrogant and stupid. If the wow geek is happy and feels he is leading a full life, then hey kudos to him. He has achieved something that I think many are still aspiring to achieve. Im not one to tell him that his life is unfullfilling just cause it would be to me.
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
Sarcasm CAN be a great way to argue a point, you sarcasm didnt imply anythint good to argue, it was just stupid.
Well its hard to not use a vague judgement on life, since its obviuosly a subjective subject.
You can find many inspiring lives too difficult to live and that you are not willing to sacrifice so much to follow their steps, however you cannot say they lived gray boring unpassionate lifes, and that is the point.
What you fail to see is that the WoW kid not happy, no matter if he says so, you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
I really dont see any relation at all with the gothkids video wtf are you saying -_-?, when did i fucking state life is pain and misery or something among their lives? what the fuck?
Oh and what the fuck is up with you randomly throwing the "uneduated" thing, i am not educated in what way Saki? please enlighten me.
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First of all, passionate =/= happy. Other than that, it is pretty hard to argue with you since you dont even seem to read my posts. I say you shouldnt impose your own values of what a good life is on others because they have diffrent views and prioreties. And you retort with "you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living fulfilling life"
We are kinda at a standstill when you give an argument, I tell you why I disagree, and then you proceed to tell me that I dont really disagree Im just saying so.
Im gonna try the same aproach. You agree with everything I say baal, even though you might say otherwise. GG.
And yeah, I think you give the impression of being uneducated in the sense that you throw around cliches that you obviously havent thought through and you keep making stupid generilazations about random stuff. |
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lebowski   Greece. Oct 15 2008 11:02. Posts 9205 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 09:28 Baal wrote:
im talking here about fullfilling or passionate lives against boring gray ones. |
before this I understood what you were saying as passionate life = fullfillment,I proposed that passion can't be a way of evaluating/passing judgement on a lifestyle and I couldn't find your answer,quote it if you will.Now you seem to separate the two by saying fullfilling OR passionate lives.
I wouldn't attempt to make an assumption about what you mean exactly but I might as well add that what's boring is subjective and since you separate the two terms (fullfillment/passion) maybe some people find fullfillment in doing things that you find as grey and boring.
About my first two quotes I don't get what you don't get T_T .First you say you're not judgemental then you say you are, I'm confused
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did you quote correctly? because i dont understand the first two parts, what do you mean with "what is this", and what didnt i answer?
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'what is this' and 'you didn't answer to this' were referring to the quotes below them not above them in case this is the reason for misunderstanding |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 15 2008 12:10. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 09:52 SakiSaki wrote:
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On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
Sacrasm is a great way to argue a point but since you seem to be at a 14 year olds level ill try to keep it simple.
Its funny how you phrase it "full and amazing life" because that is the kind of value judgement I was trying to avoid. Many people lead lives that I find inspiring and cool but I know it is not for me. To take an example, I have always admired concert pianists enormously. The way they have dedicated their lives to create pure fucking beauty with just their hands and an instrument just blows my mind. At the same time, I know that I could never give up that much time on one single thing, I am not prepared to make the sacrefices of their lifestyle. So I admire them, but I dont want to be them.
It works the other way aswell, some people lead lives and have prioreties that dont appeal to me at all, like your wow geek example. They key point though, is that its not my opinion on what a good life is that matters it is theirs. We are all unique individuals, with unique priorieties and values and judging a completely diffrent persons lifestyle with the basis of your own values is just arrogant and stupid. If the wow geek is happy and feels he is leading a full life, then hey kudos to him. He has achieved something that I think many are still aspiring to achieve. Im not one to tell him that his life is unfullfilling just cause it would be to me.
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
Sarcasm CAN be a great way to argue a point, you sarcasm didnt imply anythint good to argue, it was just stupid.
Well its hard to not use a vague judgement on life, since its obviuosly a subjective subject.
You can find many inspiring lives too difficult to live and that you are not willing to sacrifice so much to follow their steps, however you cannot say they lived gray boring unpassionate lifes, and that is the point.
What you fail to see is that the WoW kid not happy, no matter if he says so, you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
I really dont see any relation at all with the gothkids video wtf are you saying -_-?, when did i fucking state life is pain and misery or something among their lives? what the fuck?
Oh and what the fuck is up with you randomly throwing the "uneduated" thing, i am not educated in what way Saki? please enlighten me.
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First of all, passionate =/= happy. Other than that, it is pretty hard to argue with you since you dont even seem to read my posts. I say you shouldnt impose your own values of what a good life is on others because they have diffrent views and prioreties. And you retort with "you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living fulfilling life"
We are kinda at a standstill when you give an argument, I tell you why I disagree, and then you proceed to tell me that I dont really disagree Im just saying so.
Im gonna try the same aproach. You agree with everything I say baal, even though you might say otherwise. GG.
And yeah, I think you give the impression of being uneducated in the sense that you throw around cliches that you obviously havent thought through and you keep making stupid generilazations about random stuff. |
Well i mean you reach a point where i simply see this cannot get any futher i mean, if you insist than 35 WoW virgin geek with no friends is happy and not decieving himself then what can i possibly argue with you, i mean... when you say that you are either saying it to not being proven wrong or you truly believe it, and in both cases its obvious there is no point in arguing about this anymore with you dont you agree?.
I hope you are really using the wrong word here with uneducated, because i am quite educated when it comes to human psyche and ill asume much more than you, just because you disagree with the "cliches" and i dont doesnt mean i havent thought them through. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 15 2008 12:15. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 10:02 lebowski wrote:
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On October 15 2008 09:28 Baal wrote:
im talking here about fullfilling or passionate lives against boring gray ones. |
before this I understood what you were saying as passionate life = fullfillment,I proposed that passion can't be a way of evaluating/passing judgement on a lifestyle and I couldn't find your answer,quote it if you will.Now you seem to separate the two by saying fullfilling OR passionate lives.
I wouldn't attempt to make an assumption about what you mean exactly but I might as well add that what's boring is subjective and since you separate the two terms (fullfillment/passion) maybe some people find fullfillment in doing things that you find as grey and boring.
About my first two quotes I don't get what you don't get T_T .First you say you're not judgemental then you say you are, I'm confused
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did you quote correctly? because i dont understand the first two parts, what do you mean with "what is this", and what didnt i answer?
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'what is this' and 'you didn't answer to this' were referring to the quotes below them not above them in case this is the reason for misunderstanding
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it may be true that passionate =/= fullfilling or happy but an unpationate mild live leads to unhappiness imo, i mean true hapiness not the random "im happy" people spill.
Again man why do you insist that i want them to have the same interests i do? again i dont like traveling, but i see people who love traveling and pretty much dedicate their lives to know the globe and i think that is really good, i could put you hundreds of other examples, stop insiting on that, its not about different tastes, its just that certain patters are not fulfilling lives.
As Saki says it pretty much anyone who claims hapiness is truly an deeply happy, and that is really naive. |
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SKoT   United States. Oct 15 2008 14:49. Posts 1768 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
QFT so hard, its pretty pathetic to see someone be so condescending and assume they're 'better'
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I can honestly say losing a loved one isn't as hard as Skot states |
Because everyone experiences loss the same? You're saying losing a spouse of x decades isnt that bad? |
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Zorglub   Denmark. Oct 15 2008 16:57. Posts 2870 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 11:10 Baal wrote:
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On October 15 2008 09:52 SakiSaki wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
Sacrasm is a great way to argue a point but since you seem to be at a 14 year olds level ill try to keep it simple.
Its funny how you phrase it "full and amazing life" because that is the kind of value judgement I was trying to avoid. Many people lead lives that I find inspiring and cool but I know it is not for me. To take an example, I have always admired concert pianists enormously. The way they have dedicated their lives to create pure fucking beauty with just their hands and an instrument just blows my mind. At the same time, I know that I could never give up that much time on one single thing, I am not prepared to make the sacrefices of their lifestyle. So I admire them, but I dont want to be them.
It works the other way aswell, some people lead lives and have prioreties that dont appeal to me at all, like your wow geek example. They key point though, is that its not my opinion on what a good life is that matters it is theirs. We are all unique individuals, with unique priorieties and values and judging a completely diffrent persons lifestyle with the basis of your own values is just arrogant and stupid. If the wow geek is happy and feels he is leading a full life, then hey kudos to him. He has achieved something that I think many are still aspiring to achieve. Im not one to tell him that his life is unfullfilling just cause it would be to me.
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
Sarcasm CAN be a great way to argue a point, you sarcasm didnt imply anythint good to argue, it was just stupid.
Well its hard to not use a vague judgement on life, since its obviuosly a subjective subject.
You can find many inspiring lives too difficult to live and that you are not willing to sacrifice so much to follow their steps, however you cannot say they lived gray boring unpassionate lifes, and that is the point.
What you fail to see is that the WoW kid not happy, no matter if he says so, you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
I really dont see any relation at all with the gothkids video wtf are you saying -_-?, when did i fucking state life is pain and misery or something among their lives? what the fuck?
Oh and what the fuck is up with you randomly throwing the "uneduated" thing, i am not educated in what way Saki? please enlighten me.
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First of all, passionate =/= happy. Other than that, it is pretty hard to argue with you since you dont even seem to read my posts. I say you shouldnt impose your own values of what a good life is on others because they have diffrent views and prioreties. And you retort with "you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living fulfilling life"
We are kinda at a standstill when you give an argument, I tell you why I disagree, and then you proceed to tell me that I dont really disagree Im just saying so.
Im gonna try the same aproach. You agree with everything I say baal, even though you might say otherwise. GG.
And yeah, I think you give the impression of being uneducated in the sense that you throw around cliches that you obviously havent thought through and you keep making stupid generilazations about random stuff. |
Well i mean you reach a point where i simply see this cannot get any futher i mean, if you insist than 35 WoW virgin geek with no friends is happy and not decieving himself then what can i possibly argue with you, i mean... when you say that you are either saying it to not being proven wrong or you truly believe it, and in both cases its obvious there is no point in arguing about this anymore with you dont you agree?.
I hope you are really using the wrong word here with uneducated, because i am quite educated when it comes to human psyche and ill asume much more than you, just because you disagree with the "cliches" and i dont doesnt mean i havent thought them through. |
If you argue that the wow geek can never be truely happy, then who can? the toilet cleaning woman, the street sweeping man, the carpenter, the butcher, the teacher, the CEO, the president? what does it take? and who are you to decide thats what it takes? |
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Zorglub   Denmark. Oct 15 2008 17:11. Posts 2870 | | |
After all happiness, sadness, joy, love etc. are chemicals and currents flowing in our brain and they decide if you are happy or not, if you are contempt etc. and you can not tell if the other guy has less or more of those chemicals in his brain than you have, he might need less stimuli to produce them than you, he might produce more geneticly and even if he had less than you he might be far more susceptible to them than you are. We are all drug addicts.
Do you think the kid who died at age 10 in Africa seeing nothing but misery his whole life would say the wow nerd had a happy and fullfilling life?
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 16 2008 14:05. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 15:57 Zorglub wrote:
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On October 15 2008 11:10 Baal wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 09:52 SakiSaki wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 08:58 Baal wrote:
| | On October 15 2008 08:35 SakiSaki wrote:
Sacrasm is a great way to argue a point but since you seem to be at a 14 year olds level ill try to keep it simple.
Its funny how you phrase it "full and amazing life" because that is the kind of value judgement I was trying to avoid. Many people lead lives that I find inspiring and cool but I know it is not for me. To take an example, I have always admired concert pianists enormously. The way they have dedicated their lives to create pure fucking beauty with just their hands and an instrument just blows my mind. At the same time, I know that I could never give up that much time on one single thing, I am not prepared to make the sacrefices of their lifestyle. So I admire them, but I dont want to be them.
It works the other way aswell, some people lead lives and have prioreties that dont appeal to me at all, like your wow geek example. They key point though, is that its not my opinion on what a good life is that matters it is theirs. We are all unique individuals, with unique priorieties and values and judging a completely diffrent persons lifestyle with the basis of your own values is just arrogant and stupid. If the wow geek is happy and feels he is leading a full life, then hey kudos to him. He has achieved something that I think many are still aspiring to achieve. Im not one to tell him that his life is unfullfilling just cause it would be to me.
And your whole rant about how "most people" live gray lives working shit jobs just to get some kids and die is just such an arrogant and uneducated opinion it hurts my head. Seriously. |
Sarcasm CAN be a great way to argue a point, you sarcasm didnt imply anythint good to argue, it was just stupid.
Well its hard to not use a vague judgement on life, since its obviuosly a subjective subject.
You can find many inspiring lives too difficult to live and that you are not willing to sacrifice so much to follow their steps, however you cannot say they lived gray boring unpassionate lifes, and that is the point.
What you fail to see is that the WoW kid not happy, no matter if he says so, you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living a fulfilling life, and you know it but you will keep claiming this only because aknowledging that he is not living a fullfilling life would make you do exactly what im doing, and its judging others people's lifes.
I really dont see any relation at all with the gothkids video wtf are you saying -_-?, when did i fucking state life is pain and misery or something among their lives? what the fuck?
Oh and what the fuck is up with you randomly throwing the "uneduated" thing, i am not educated in what way Saki? please enlighten me.
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First of all, passionate =/= happy. Other than that, it is pretty hard to argue with you since you dont even seem to read my posts. I say you shouldnt impose your own values of what a good life is on others because they have diffrent views and prioreties. And you retort with "you would be a naive idiot if you think he is living fulfilling life"
We are kinda at a standstill when you give an argument, I tell you why I disagree, and then you proceed to tell me that I dont really disagree Im just saying so.
Im gonna try the same aproach. You agree with everything I say baal, even though you might say otherwise. GG.
And yeah, I think you give the impression of being uneducated in the sense that you throw around cliches that you obviously havent thought through and you keep making stupid generilazations about random stuff. |
Well i mean you reach a point where i simply see this cannot get any futher i mean, if you insist than 35 WoW virgin geek with no friends is happy and not decieving himself then what can i possibly argue with you, i mean... when you say that you are either saying it to not being proven wrong or you truly believe it, and in both cases its obvious there is no point in arguing about this anymore with you dont you agree?.
I hope you are really using the wrong word here with uneducated, because i am quite educated when it comes to human psyche and ill asume much more than you, just because you disagree with the "cliches" and i dont doesnt mean i havent thought them through. |
If you argue that the wow geek can never be truely happy, then who can? the toilet cleaning woman, the street sweeping man, the carpenter, the butcher, the teacher, the CEO, the president? what does it take? and who are you to decide thats what it takes? |
im not saying a WoW geek cant be happy, you are not getting it, i am not saying that its related to money or job, its about living ur live passionately regardless of what you do, settling for a shitty office job you dont like its not a good indication, unless your life true passion is something absolutely non-related, however there are signs like that ugly office job, or being antisocial, like fearing alcohol etc. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 16 2008 14:06. Posts 34312 | | |
| | On October 15 2008 16:11 Zorglub wrote:
After all happiness, sadness, joy, love etc. are chemicals and currents flowing in our brain and they decide if you are happy or not, if you are contempt etc. and you can not tell if the other guy has less or more of those chemicals in his brain than you have, he might need less stimuli to produce them than you, he might produce more geneticly and even if he had less than you he might be far more susceptible to them than you are. We are all drug addicts.
Do you think the kid who died at age 10 in Africa seeing nothing but misery his whole life would say the wow nerd had a happy and fullfilling life?
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well brain chemistry is a good point, and yeah it might variate how easy people are happy and not, however i really dont think there is a big difference in humans in that. |
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Zorglub   Denmark. Oct 16 2008 14:33. Posts 2870 | | |
| | On October 16 2008 13:06 Baal wrote:
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On October 15 2008 16:11 Zorglub wrote:
After all happiness, sadness, joy, love etc. are chemicals and currents flowing in our brain and they decide if you are happy or not, if you are contempt etc. and you can not tell if the other guy has less or more of those chemicals in his brain than you have, he might need less stimuli to produce them than you, he might produce more geneticly and even if he had less than you he might be far more susceptible to them than you are. We are all drug addicts.
Do you think the kid who died at age 10 in Africa seeing nothing but misery his whole life would say the wow nerd had a happy and fullfilling life?
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well brain chemistry is a good point, and yeah it might variate how easy people are happy and not, however i really dont think there is a big difference in humans in that.
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Well I studied the subject for a while and there are big differences, many people have reduced or are missing some of the production hormones to synthesise the different neurotransmitters, some people have many receptors, others not so many, some are very susceptible to neurotransmitters other not, while the basic priciples are the same there are thousands of variables individual to the single human
Do you think the kid who died at age 10 in Africa seeing nothing but misery his whole life would say the wow nerd had a happy and fullfilling life? |
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